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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2012, 06:16:26 PM »
humanure reminds me alot of a facebook guy Dallas :chuckle:
 

the big picture to look at is wolves and people cant coexist  together, especially with the population we have today in WA, the only way it works is to take man out of the environment completely. we replaced wolves and did an excellent job at filling in for them. With hounds, trapping, and other forums of hunting we were able to replace alot of predators and for the last 70 some years had no issues. you cant add the top predator in the world into a enviroment that hasn't seen them in almost a century and expect they will fit right in with no effect.

its really frustrating seeing peoples dogs get killed by wolves, nothing good comes from having them back. not saying SSS is the way to go but I'm not opposed to the idea ;)

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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2012, 07:48:29 PM »
5 black and tans were killed by wolves in Idaho late Oct or November ambushed by wolves.

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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2012, 08:32:54 PM »
This is seriously under my skin.... How could the government not step up and end this sheet !! ? the wolves need to go ......NOW !!!!!!!!

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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2012, 10:54:09 PM »
All you have to do is look at Yellowstone without wolves compared to before exterpation and after reintroduction to see what happens to the landscape when you toy with the balance.
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2012, 11:00:50 PM »
Humanure, when these wolves start killing people, will you have a different outlook on this, or will it be the person's fault and just a natural predator/prey relationship?


Domestic dogs attack and kill more people every year than wolves have in recorded history. What say you on that? Like I said before, people should be aware of the wildlife they live around.

When wolves are walking through the center of town looking for food, they're overpopulated, way beyond carrying capacity for them to be leaving the safety of the wilds. They should be severely thinned out and forced far back into the wilderness. There should be an open season until the wolves are in tightly controlled numbers.

When the food supply thins, the wolves starve. Plenty of wolves die in the woods of starvation. Sure the numbers boom, but they falter as well.

The country is different and we have a large population of people here where they weren't before. Wolves can't be allowed to exist as they have before. It needs to be different according to the changes in our population. They were killed off before because of the damage they did. Now with a population about 5 times what it was then, incidents will be more frequent. Their recovery must be severely limited.

The wolves were killed off because of greed. How else do you think the land survived before the pilgrims came here? Yes, the numbers should be managed, but people should take responsibility and control our own over-reproductive rate. But thats another discussion altogether.
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2012, 11:06:54 PM »
All you have to do is look at Yellowstone without wolves compared to before exterpation and after reintroduction to see what happens to the landscape when you toy with the balance.
People weren't allowed to control the ungulate populations in YNP (hunting). 

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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2012, 11:07:43 PM »
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Domestic dogs attack and kill more people every year than wolves have in recorded history. What say you on that? Like I said before, people should be aware of the wildlife they live around.

You can get rid of a bad dog, the government is not allowing people to take care of bad wolves. 


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When the food supply thins, the wolves starve. Plenty of wolves die in the woods of starvation. Sure the numbers boom, but they falter as well.

FACT: When the wild game thins wolves turn to livestock and pets.


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The wolves were killed off because of greed. How else do you think the land survived before the pilgrims came here? Yes, the numbers should be managed, but people should take responsibility and control our own over-reproductive rate. But thats another discussion altogether.

The wolves were killed off because they eat livestock. Americans have already cut back their reproductive rate. Idahoans have cut back on the wolf reproductive rate.  :chuckle:
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2012, 11:19:12 PM »
But when you have to put a dog down, the damage is already done. Meanwhile, wolf attacks on humans are rare at best, and must as everyone thinks they will just go rampant on humans, I don't see the rate increasing in any significant rate, but even then, will pale in comparison to dog attacks.

Yes, they might/will turn to domesticated animals. Thats why we have to responsible for our animals and take the measures proven to be effective. How else does a huge sheep farm in Minnisota residing between two large packs have little to no predations? Lifestock guardian dogs and night shepherds. Plus its been proven time and time again, wolves represent less than 1% of the elemnts that cause livestock deaths every year.

Yes, the pilgrims did not want to lose livestock to wolves. Livestock non-native to our country in the first place. No matter how you paint it, it was intolerance and greed.
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2012, 11:39:02 PM »
Kill all the wolves like our ancestors did, problem solved.  :tup:
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2012, 11:43:27 PM »
Do you honestly believe that? Hahaha. How un-Christ like...
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2012, 11:45:23 PM »
But when you have to put a dog down, the damage is already done. Meanwhile, wolf attacks on humans are rare at best, and must as everyone thinks they will just go rampant on humans, I don't see the rate increasing in any significant rate, but even then, will pale in comparison to dog attacks.

Yes, they might/will turn to domesticated animals. Thats why we have to responsible for our animals and take the measures proven to be effective. How else does a huge sheep farm in Minnisota residing between two large packs have little to no predations? Lifestock guardian dogs and night shepherds. Plus its been proven time and time again, wolves represent less than 1% of the elemnts that cause livestock deaths every year.

Yes, the pilgrims did not want to lose livestock to wolves. Livestock non-native to our country in the first place. No matter how you paint it, it was intolerance and greed.

how many adopt-a-wolf stickers you got on your lunch box?
 
 

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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2012, 11:49:23 PM »
I don't have a lunchbox, guy, nor would I put such asinine stickers on it if I had one.
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2012, 11:50:05 PM »
But when you have to put a dog down, the damage is already done. Meanwhile, wolf attacks on humans are rare at best, and must as everyone thinks they will just go rampant on humans, I don't see the rate increasing in any significant rate, but even then, will pale in comparison to dog attacks.

Yes, they might/will turn to domesticated animals. Thats why we have to responsible for our animals and take the measures proven to be effective. How else does a huge sheep farm in Minnisota residing between two large packs have little to no predations? Lifestock guardian dogs and night shepherds. Plus its been proven time and time again, wolves represent less than 1% of the elemnts that cause livestock deaths every year.

Yes, the pilgrims did not want to lose livestock to wolves. Livestock non-native to our country in the first place. No matter how you paint it, it was intolerance and greed.

Dude it's greed on the part of you wolf lovers that is going to backlash. If you wolf huggers would have been saitisdfied with a few wolves you would have been more successful, but your greed wanted more and more wolves. It backlashed in Idaho and the people are now killing the hell out of wolves over there.  :tup:

Your greed is going to push it too far in this state too becuase you can't help yourself, you are too greedy, when the backlash happens we are going to kill the hell out of wolves in this state too. :twocents:
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2012, 11:53:35 PM »
Its the powers that be that choose the numbers, not the people.

You can think whatever you like, just like i can. Guess we'll have to see how it all plays out, now won't we?
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Re: (graphic) Wolves kill 3 dogs near Blackrock, WY
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2012, 12:09:30 AM »
  You can think whatever you like, just like i can. Guess we'll have to see how it all plays out, now won't we?
It's not an opinion, its a fact.  Look at Idaho to see how its already been played out.  :dunno:
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Right now I'm somewhere picking up sheds.

 


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