Possible wolf attack.

[full strutting]

  

[Kowsrule30]

This is where I can easily tell you, hybrids attacks are insanely common. You have your wild genes clashing with he domestic genes, and that makes the animal unpredictible and usually irritable and nervous. It's actually safer to outright own a pure wolf than a hybrid. A child running or screaming will trigger the prey instinct and alot of peple and children have died from hybrid attacks. i will definately be following this case to see the outcome.

Guess I'm a little late.... But I'm starting to see a trend here....                 There is no need for a single wolf in the US... We have people. Cougar... Black Bear.... Coyote.... Even some Grizz....

[humanure]

It don't tink you mean that we don't NEED wolves. You just don't WANT them. There's a difference.

[Kain]

It don't tink you mean that we don't NEED wolves. You just don't WANT them. There's a difference.

Well since they were extirpated in WA for over 50 years and the world did not end I would say they are not needed.  I would say it is more that YOU WANT them.  Not the other way around.

[humanure]

I think it's both ways, buddy. How bout that? We're both selfish fukk's, can we agree on that?

[Kain]

Nope.  I believe in balance.

[humanure]

Not touching that one. We will just go in circles like we've already done.

[Kain]

Not touching that one. We will just go in circles like we've already done.

There are only so many animals that can be taken.  Cougars, coyotes, bears, wolves, bobcats, weather, disease and cars all take their share.  Just because hunters want to retain a fair share of those animals and pay for the privilege I just dont see that as selfish.  You obviously have some kind of human guilt/loathing complex.  I only say that based on your screen name and comments.  It is more than obvious you have no regard for the heritage of hunting and see it as something disposable.

[humanure]

Quite the opposite, actually(on the disposable aspect)

[Kain]

Quite the opposite, actually(on the disposable aspect)

Then why would you call someone selfish for fighting to keep hunting alive?  If we have the influx of wolves that is coming there simply will not be enough game left to have a viable hunting season.  There just is not enough animals to go around and hunters will be the ones pushed out.  It is simple math.  I dont know why you have such a problem seeing that. 

[humanure]

What about the idea that there's ALOT more hunters than ever? I've also mentioned that I agree that they are shooting for too high of a number in packs. Like I said, I think management is possible.

[Kain]

What about the idea that there's ALOT more hunters than ever? I've also mentioned that I agree that they are shooting for too high of a number in packs. Like I said, I think management is possible.

Not true.  There are more elk hunters than ever but every other category is down. 

I still dont understand how you think they can be managed.  What other state is keeping wolves numbers at their goals?  And they are allowed aerial gunning and traps and snares that are not allowed here.   Historically wolves had bounties, government hunters, trappers, adn unlimited season and harvest by hunters and land owners.  It was not until the introduction of poison that they were taken out.    We will not have any of that. 

We are not allowed an unlimited season on cougars despite the fact there is no way boot hunters can harvest minimum harvest goals even with unlimited opportunity.  We were told that it devalues the animal if the season is too long. 

[humanure]

Which did more damage to the landscape than ever. It stayed in the grass and killed all kinds of animals for up to 2 years after something was laced with strychninne. It's not about the wolves when I'm against poison, its EVERYTHING. And areal hunting... thats just cheating. But thats just my opinion. As far as traps go, I'm not to sure what i think about them. If I had to give an answer, I guess i feel as long as they aren't cruel. If an animal is going to be trapped and killed, why cause it more duress?

[humanure]

I don't want hunters to lose their rights, but I don't completely trust the 'sportsman' community to  be unbiased about running it either. When you boil it down, i don't trust anyone in all of this. But we have to choose the lesser of two evils, right?

[Klyne3]

So what is the lesser evil then?