First of all welcome Pile UP. I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but you are after one of the best kept secrets in Washington. If anyone REALLY knows where they are, they won't tell you unless I suppose they have moved away, and then they REALLY don't know where they are anymore becasue they move constantly. Best bet is to "waste" alot of gas, rubber and shoe leather to see if you can locate them. Yes they are there and yes there are some awesome ones. Do a search on here, you'll see lots of folks asking the same question, and probably about the same 5 guys giving the same information. Then it boils down to you need to get out there for this one. EVERYONE is after the holy grail because its any bull and in the past not many hunters. THAT has changed dratically. I used to bugle them all the time and see lovely bulls, but now there are a ton of folks trying for that easy bull on the eastside. It won't happen.