Author Topic: Crying Wolf (Read 19027 times)

humanure · « **on:** March 26, 2012, 09:54:41 PM »

You know, this movie almost won me over on the valid points it attempted to make... but when you use religious bigotry and selfishness as a reason to try to proclaim domination over the earth, that's when you lose alot of us non-Christians. I don't hate or discriminate against Christianity, but even I know when someone is being very Christian, and by that, i mean completely un-Christ like. I'd like to see a wolf documentary that comes from the other side that doesn't flood the movie with self-righteousness and utter boasting with a false sense of deservement. That movie oozed with religious zealotry and agenda.

If you want to get religious about it, though, I suggest reading up on the Catholic story of St. Francis and the wolf of Gubbio. Not that it applies to the situation, but it goes to show how Christianity thought of wolves before puritans started demonizing them and twisting God's words to reflect their hate.

WAcoyotehunter · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:40:00 PM »

I agree that they were a little over the top on the religious stuff. Biology and religion are seperate conversations in my opinion. Old Europeans (not just christians) had good reason to fear wolves. In Europe wolves killed (still do) people with mundane regularity.

hirshey · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2012, 04:03:06 PM »

We can certainly agree on this topic! Look! Progress!

I have to say, though... "God's Will" gets used on both sides... that is where I just couldn't stand it anymore in Wolfer's (Cartier's) facebook page... when EITHER side tries to justify wolf establishment or extirpation by means of religion... it makes me terribly sad..

humanure · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2012, 06:46:16 PM »

Religion is personal choice, not a means to rule the world.

ribka · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:32:00 PM »

I just read on Huffingtonpost, a non religious site, today that wolves carry the cancer virus.

that concerns me greatly

humanure · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:00:51 AM »

Just like deer and the lyme disease tick and other parasites.

Skyvalhunter · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:14:59 AM »

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 05:00:51 AM

You are ignoring this user

This is one of the nice benefits that Hunt Wa has!!!!

seth30 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2012, 06:29:19 AM »

Quote from: Skyvalhunter on March 28, 2012, 05:14:59 AM

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 05:00:51 AM
You are ignoring this user
This is one of the nice benefits that Hunt Wa has!!!!

villageidiot · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:50:54 PM »

Humanure and those others that are turned off by the religion in Crying Wolf. Just watch Yellowstone is Dead by Scott Rockholm. It covers the same material about how the PR money was used, improper paperwork was filed, was suppose to be a pilot project, etc. etc. with lots of Jim Beers (retired US Fish and Wildlife). Anyways, it has no religion in it and is very factual. It's amazing the wolves are allowed to continue to propogate with all the illegal things that were done to reintroduce them. When somebody or group gets enough money to fight it in court then it will stop, but unfortunately none of us has enough money and in the mean time the wolves are multiplying like rats.
I think we should also reintroduce the black plague, smallpox and some other diseases we have made almost extinct. All those are natural too so why don't we bring them back. They would do very well in the cities and then the city folks would understand what the rural folks are putting up with in the wolf introduction. If it's natural it's got to be good. Right?

humanure · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:54:42 PM »

Not to be cruel, but we are experiencing a vast over-population in humans. Too many humans, too little resources. Thats why I'm pro-abortion. Whatever helps keep the numbers from rising.

Is there a link to view the movie?

villageidiot · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:18:34 PM »

Yellowston is Dead

http://yellowstone-is-dead.myshopify.com/products/yellowstone-is-dead

humanure · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:20:03 PM »

I'll give it a view, then.

spookgus · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2012, 02:36:25 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 09:54:42 PM

Not to be cruel, but we are experiencing a vast over-population in humans. Too many humans, too little resources. Thats why I'm pro-abortion. Whatever helps keep the numbers from rising.

Is there a link to view the movie?

Not true, the world is not experiencing a vast overpopulation of humans. This has been spewed forth for years by groups that want a one world order/government. Some populations are declining. Take an airplane from WA to TX and look out the window and you will wonder at how much land is undeveloped and uninhabited by humans. Get out of the city and off the freeway and have car trouble and you will wish there was more humans around. Our resources are vast and under utilized. The US easily grows more grain than is necessary and finds new ways to use it, corn syrup,ethanol, cattle feed etc. This is just one example.

"Whatever keeps the numbers from rising"
Really! You sound like you would support computer lists on people that the "one world order" folks want to use to cut the human population in half. You have said that you have a Savage 110 in 30-06, so my friend you are on one of these lists.

Humans are NOT the scourge of the earth. Doom and gloom will not win the day.

humanure · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2012, 02:58:51 PM »

I guess we disagree then.

The gun is a friends btw. I am looking to buy a 30-30 lever action soon, though. In tat case, i'll have someone else register it. I am NOT for one-world government... I just don't see a problem with losing a bit of the living, breathing pieces of defacating meat that takes up the government aid offices with 7 or more children trying to get that gov'ment check.

If we grow more grain than we need, then why are we leveling forests in S. America? Here's a flick for YOU to watch, it's called We Feed the World. http://www.we-feed-the-world.at/en/film.htm

DoubleJ · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:00:20 PM »

Quote from: ribka on March 27, 2012, 09:32:00 PM

I just read on Huffingtonpost, a non religious site, today that wolves carry the cancer virus.

that concerns me greatly

Um. Cancer is not a virus

hirshey · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:03:33 PM »

Quote from: DoubleJ on March 29, 2012, 03:00:20 PM

Quote from: ribka on March 27, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
I just read on Huffingtonpost, a non religious site, today that wolves carry the cancer virus.

that concerns me greatly

Um. Cancer is not a virus

psst! huffingtonpost has some sarcastic/fake news... I think they were being funny.

DoubleJ · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:04:32 PM »

Oh, gotcha (well, got me anyway)

BIGINNER · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:04:41 PM »

Quote from: DoubleJ on March 29, 2012, 03:00:20 PM

Quote from: ribka on March 27, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
I just read on Huffingtonpost, a non religious site, today that wolves carry the cancer virus.

that concerns me greatly

Um. Cancer is not a virus

COUGH COUGH.... SARCASM....

jackmaster · « **Reply #18 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:17:29 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 09:54:42 PM

Not to be cruel, but we are experiencing a vast over-population in humans. Too many humans, too little resources. Thats why I'm pro-abortion. Whatever helps keep the numbers from rising.

Is there a link to view the movie?

yeah i am pro abortion to, to each his own... but humanturd please dont procreate please, we dont need anymore left wing wolf loven *censored*s..... OK....

humanure · « **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:43:36 PM »

A: I'm not left wing, my views are too conservative.

And B: I hate, I HATE kids, so no need to worry about that.

spookgus · « **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2012, 05:45:50 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 29, 2012, 02:58:51 PM

I guess we disagree then.

The gun is a friends btw. I am looking to buy a 30-30 lever action soon, though. In tat case, i'll have someone else register it. I am NOT for one-world government... I just don't see a problem with losing a bit of the living, breathing pieces of defacating meat that takes up the government aid offices with 7 or more children trying to get that gov'ment check.

If we grow more grain than we need, then why are we leveling forests in S. America? Here's a flick for YOU to watch, it's called We Feed the World. http://www.we-feed-the-world.at/en/film.htm

"I'll have someone else register it"
Long guns aren't registered yet. It's intersting that you would throw your friends under the bus to save yourself.

"I am not for one world government"
Then why did you post a link to We Feed The World who states there video is about food and globalization?

"If we grow more grain than we need"
Then it is for sale or trade to a government that needs it. But that is not what happens. Countries around the world take and our leaders give foreign aid instead of payment or trade with the goal of bringing the American way of life down to global standards.

humanure · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2012, 05:49:24 PM »

The American way of life... it hurts just to type it.

The film criticizes globalization, if I remember correctly.

buckfvr · « **Reply #22 on:** March 29, 2012, 06:08:33 PM »

Quote from: jackmaster on March 29, 2012, 03:17:29 PM

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 09:54:42 PM
Not to be cruel, but we are experiencing a vast over-population in humans. Too many humans, too little resources. Thats why I'm pro-abortion. Whatever helps keep the numbers from rising.

Is there a link to view the movie?
yeah i am pro abortion to, to each his own... but humanturd please dont procreate please, we dont need anymore left wing wolf loven *censored*s..... OK....

Over-population is covered in obamacare.....where his administration provides a group to oversee the program and deny proceedures to those they feel not worthy candidates for extended life.....

humanure · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2012, 06:33:40 PM »

I didn't vote for Obama. Too white. I want an actual black guy for a president.

3nails · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2012, 06:39:02 PM »

Quote from: Skyvalhunter on March 28, 2012, 05:14:59 AM

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 05:00:51 AM
You are ignoring this user
This is one of the nice benefits that Hunt Wa has!!!!

OK found that. Now where do I find the nuke tab?

buckfvr · « **Reply #25 on:** March 29, 2012, 06:42:42 PM »

Why nuke when you can flush

??

SpringerFan · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2012, 06:56:12 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 28, 2012, 09:54:42 PM

Not to be cruel, but we are experiencing a vast over-population in humans. Too many humans, too little resources. Thats why I'm pro-abortion. Whatever helps keep the numbers from rising.

Is there a link to view the movie?

I believe in abortion after the age of 21...........and as for religion.........your sig says it all.

humanure · « **Reply #27 on:** March 29, 2012, 07:01:50 PM »

What? Agalloch is a great band. True Pacific Northwestern Dark Metal! Heathenry and beauty!

spookgus · « **Reply #28 on:** March 29, 2012, 07:39:35 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 29, 2012, 06:33:40 PM

I didn't vote for Obama. Too white. I want an actual black guy for a president.

It doesn't matter what the President looks like. It matters what the President does.

humanure · « **Reply #29 on:** March 29, 2012, 07:43:00 PM »

Yeah well i want a president who has a pitbull on a huge chain, and a 'crew' to back him up. I want a president who will actually bitch-slap people and make them 'kiss the ring, bitch'.

TONTO · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2012, 08:35:32 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 29, 2012, 07:43:00 PM

Yeah well i want a president who has a pitbull on a huge chain, and a 'crew' to back him up. I want a president who will actually bitch-slap people and make them 'kiss the ring, bitch'.

I'ld much rather prefer a president that does his job, whats with all the bitchslapping mentality. Pro abortion/pro genicide... so this is where we are heading with the wolf topic now. If you seem to think there are too many people one simple solution comes to mind, it starts at home, you first, go ahead do the decent thing and lighten our load. Then you bitch about religion, yet as stated before your signature says it differently WTF?

By the way "pro abortion" just doesn't set too well with me and no I'm not against it either, I just feel "pro choice" as a better way to describe my feelings, but again what does this have to do with wolves anyway? Maybe you should go to the SYM section and let us know what you're realy thinking, just by reading your drivle I'm not too sure if you realy know.

humanure · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2012, 09:31:20 PM »

The signature says basically, looking up at Mt. Rainier, the old growths, the vastness of our home(Agalloch is from the cascades, so they are actually referencing this region) when standing up high on the mountain... if THIS is what you call God, this land that we are standing on here in the northwest... then to me, God truly is not dead.

Moose22 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 29, 2012, 10:01:42 PM »

I agree with TONTO, sign up for SYM. humanure your are filling up this forum with back and forth dribble. I believe your intentions are to raise the hair on HW members for your entertainment.

jackmaster · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:46:36 AM »

hey humanturd, dude seriously, your starting to make me laugh with your off the wall *censored*, a president that is black as coal and a pitbull on a chain, oh and a crew to back his ass up, dude this aint no rap song ya *censored*, i can pretty much get along with anyone but you my friend, i wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire, ya know what you should do, i am guessing your just a dumb kid between what 23 to 26 maybe, you should really take your GED and go join the military, army or marines preferably, i believe one of those two services will help you get your head on straight, make damn sure your on the front lines though, then after a few years come on back and we will see if you have something to offer other than your *censored* dribble that you keep trying to pedal, keep in mind, in the service if you rat someone out or throw their ass under a bus then dont expect to be long for the world.. good luck humanturd...

hirshey · « **Reply #34 on:** April 02, 2012, 12:00:30 PM »

Quote from: jackmaster on March 30, 2012, 06:46:36 AM

hey humanturd, dude seriously, your starting to make me laugh with your off the wall *censored*, a president that is black as coal and a pitbull on a chain, oh and a crew to back his ass up, dude this aint no rap song ya *censored*, i can pretty much get along with anyone but you my friend, i wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire, ya know what you should do, i am guessing your just a dumb kid between what 23 to 26 maybe, you should really take your GED and go join the military, army or marines preferably, i believe one of those two services will help you get your head on straight, make damn sure your on the front lines though, then after a few years come on back and we will see if you have something to offer other than your *censored* dribble that you keep trying to pedal, keep in mind, in the service if you rat someone out or throw their ass under a bus then dont expect to be long for the world.. good luck humanturd...

Please don't suggest the military.. he'd come back and be my boss! (vets get preference in hiring).

for him to be in a supervisory role for natural resources!

jackmaster · « **Reply #35 on:** April 02, 2012, 12:04:49 PM »

Quote from: hirshey on April 02, 2012, 12:00:30 PM

Quote from: jackmaster on March 30, 2012, 06:46:36 AM
hey humanturd, dude seriously, your starting to make me laugh with your off the wall *censored*, a president that is black as coal and a pitbull on a chain, oh and a crew to back his ass up, dude this aint no rap song ya *censored*, i can pretty much get along with anyone but you my friend, i wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire, ya know what you should do, i am guessing your just a dumb kid between what 23 to 26 maybe, you should really take your GED and go join the military, army or marines preferably, i believe one of those two services will help you get your head on straight, make damn sure your on the front lines though, then after a few years come on back and we will see if you have something to offer other than your *censored* dribble that you keep trying to pedal, keep in mind, in the service if you rat someone out or throw their ass under a bus then dont expect to be long for the world.. good luck humanturd...
sorry hershey, hey humanturd forget the military it wouldnt help you in your case....

Please don't suggest the military.. he'd come back and be my boss! (vets get preference in hiring). for him to be in a supervisory role for natural resources!

seth30 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 05, 2012, 07:56:30 PM »

Quote from: humanure on March 29, 2012, 06:33:40 PM

I didn't vote for Obama. Too white. I want an actual black guy for a president.

Special T · « **Reply #37 on:** April 06, 2012, 11:24:56 AM »

Quote from: humanure on March 29, 2012, 06:33:40 PM

I didn't vote for Obama. Too white. I want an actual black guy for a president.

Funny we agree! I want my black president to be more like JC watts!

Curly · « **Reply #38 on:** April 06, 2012, 11:33:51 AM »

I wanted Herman Cain for president and it wasn't because he was black...........it was because he had good ideas on fixing the economy.

How long does this manure guy get to stay on this site? Pretty soon he'll have half the site placing him on ignore, and he'll just be talking to himself..........

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 06, 2012, 04:25:15 PM »

Humanure ...is it a women ? yeah your right ...the whole freakin world is over populating SO NO NEED FOR A WOLF

PlateauNDN · « **Reply #40 on:** April 06, 2012, 04:42:09 PM »

Quote from: Curly on April 06, 2012, 11:33:51 AM

I wanted Herman Cain for president and it wasn't because he was black...........it was because he had good ideas on fixing the economy. I agree with you on this. I personally felt he would've made a better President then the current one and regardless of his personal life that occured many many many years ago I was ready to cast a vote for him. Honestly, anybody in their right mind knew he would've railroaded the other republican candidates and those ladies were just a bunch of media whor... I won't finish that, but you get the idea.

How long does this manure guy get to stay on this site? Pretty soon he'll have half the site placing him on ignore, and he'll just be talking to himself.......... That's coming fast and will be quite entertaining to see!

humanure · « **Reply #41 on:** April 06, 2012, 04:47:28 PM »

Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on April 06, 2012, 04:25:15 PM

Humanure ...is it a women ? yeah your right ...the whole freakin world is over populating SO NO NEED FOR A WOLF

Rather a wolf than a nation of welfare loving layabouts.

buckfvr · « **Reply #42 on:** April 06, 2012, 05:02:49 PM »

Its a guy

? You sure

? I am seeing a Rosie O'Donnel look alike with a crew cut, a sneer, long haul boots and belt, with a pack of smokes rolled up under the shirt sleeve displaying pudgy arms covered in pimples....angry at the world .....

humanure · « **Reply #43 on:** April 06, 2012, 05:15:08 PM »

Nope. Metal band shirt and a pair of Carharts with mid-length hair, beard and tattoo's all over. i don't smoke.

Elkaholic daWg · « **Reply #44 on:** April 07, 2012, 07:07:45 AM »

Go to DFWs facebook woof discussion boards and look for the initials "D B" and there's a pic as an avatar, along with DOW/CNW type BS and l stories about how his buddies have seen this, and that, and woofs are great and .........

May have changed....haven't been there in many months.

Special T · « **Reply #45 on:** April 07, 2012, 09:32:23 AM »

Dallas Bollen... DB... Are people afraid to say his name? I think its important to realize that you are not really "anonymous". Most of us could likely be found/figured out if you put enough time or effort into it. Its also a reminder that once you type stuff with you name attached it become public record... Best not to say stuff you might regret.

humanure · « **Reply #46 on:** April 07, 2012, 05:03:12 PM »

mossback91 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 08, 2012, 09:50:20 PM »

Quote from: Special T on April 07, 2012, 09:32:23 AM

Dallas Bollen... DB... Are people afraid to say his name? I think its important to realize that you are not really "anonymous". Most of us could likely be found/figured out if you put enough time or effort into it. Its also a reminder that once you type stuff with you name attached it become public record... Best not to say stuff you might regret.

Dude you spelt his last name wrong!!!

dscubame · « **Reply #48 on:** April 08, 2012, 10:02:41 PM »

Dallas belongs on another forum and for sure not this one. Ignorant as a woodchuck chucks wood.

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