Photos of trapped wolf

[vandeman17]

Let's be real clear about this. The reason that picture is causing such a stink is because of all the blood in that photo. That blood wasn't caused by the trap or the trapper. How many other pictures have been posted of wolves this year? I've see a lot of bloody pictures and this is the one that starts the controversy. There seems to be a connection between the bloody picture and trapping. That is just unfair. It was the kids shooting at the wolf that caused all the blood.
Was it smart to post the picture? No it was not but when I see people posting on this site stuff like this

As much as I don't like wolves, these types of pictures always make me feel bad for them. I am not against trapping but I couldn't do it myself. Would rather make a quick, humane kill and not make them suffer.

Well, that just upsets me. There is no evidence that the wolf suffered in the trap what so ever. Did you see the picture of its foot in the trap? There was zero damage. That wolf was trapped humanely and to say trapping is somehow inhumane is just wrong. Everything went right until the kids shot at the wolf.
There would have been just as much blood if the wolf had been shot by a hunter and not trapped, probably more.

To top it off there probably was not much blood. A little blood goes a long way in the snow.

Another thing I'd like to add. All of us are proud of being successful. How many pictures have you seen on here of elk, deer, moose, cougar, bear, coyotes and you name it that have been taken hunting? Trappers are no different. That wolf was a first and maybe a once in a lifetime catch for that guy. Naturally he wanted pictures to show to friends.
Just saying put youself in his shoes for a minute and cut him a little slack.
Learn from his mistake. I'm sure he did and is regreting it.

I never said I was against trapping, I just said that it wasn't for me because I wouldn't like knowing that an animal COULD be suffering at my expense. I am just a believer in trying to complete the most humane kill possible but to each their own. I am not judging.

[Special T]

I will agree with what many here have said, but feel the need to play Devil's advocate.

The main reason why this can be construed as "Ammo" is because the general population has become more insulated from the real world. Many people cannot even think of how meat gets into the butcher shop/grocery store. How many of you in the country have dogs dumped in your area? So many people cannot even contemplate taking a dog to the pound or putting it down themselves.
I would argue that we need to show MORE reality not less. By showing less we are continuing the ignorance of people instead of confronting people with reality.
The perfect example of this is the decision to put your dog down. Your best friend is suffering, and cannot be fixed or cost too much. MOST people feel better taking them to the vet and having them put to sleep because its "peaceful".  The fact is regardless of how you put your dog down its dead. We try and soften the fall by spending additional $ to curtail our guilt.

If we constantly hide our actions, how can we ever explain or expand our way of life or thinking? 

[Feanix]

I doubt there any statistics, but i would wager the chances of an animal suffering from trapping activities vs rifle hunting are roughly the same, if not tilted towards more rifle animals suffering. They both come down to skill and experience.

[Cuda]

As a hunter I think ethics are essential regardless of the game. If I had mad a poorly placed shot on an animal or it was down but needed finished off, then in no way would I pose with the animal before I disbatched it. I don't trap but have friends that do and I can say that I respect the method. I simply believe that as sportsman we need to be responsible and show respect for the animals we hunt regardless of their reputation. This is what I will teach my children when they begin hunting.

[WAcoyotehunter]

As a hunter I think ethics are essential regardless of the game. If I had mad a poorly placed shot on an animal or it was down but needed finished off, then in no way would I pose with the animal before I disbatched it. I don't trap but have friends that do and I can say that I respect the method. I simply believe that as sportsman we need to be responsible and show respect for the animals we hunt regardless of their reputation. This is what I will teach my children when they begin hunting.

Right- I have had to make a killing shot on downed animals and have never taken their picture befor hand.. 

[BOWHUNTER45]

thanks ...maybe they want to join us on facebook ....Citizens Against The reintroduction Of Wolves in the US...

[Feanix]

Agreed. If i was checking traps and came to a set with people hanging around it and shooting the animal in my trap with. 22's i would dispatch the animal immediately and then proceed to be very pissed. Personally wouldn't have taken that particular picture, let alone put it on the internet, but im not that guy, either. As in most things like this, we will all be lumped together with this guy.

[Humptulips]

Let's be real clear about this. The reason that picture is causing such a stink is because of all the blood in that photo. That blood wasn't caused by the trap or the trapper. How many other pictures have been posted of wolves this year? I've see a lot of bloody pictures and this is the one that starts the controversy. There seems to be a connection between the bloody picture and trapping. That is just unfair. It was the kids shooting at the wolf that caused all the blood.
Was it smart to post the picture? No it was not but when I see people posting on this site stuff like this

As much as I don't like wolves, these types of pictures always make me feel bad for them. I am not against trapping but I couldn't do it myself. Would rather make a quick, humane kill and not make them suffer.

Well, that just upsets me. There is no evidence that the wolf suffered in the trap what so ever. Did you see the picture of its foot in the trap? There was zero damage. That wolf was trapped humanely and to say trapping is somehow inhumane is just wrong. Everything went right until the kids shot at the wolf.
There would have been just as much blood if the wolf had been shot by a hunter and not trapped, probably more.

To top it off there probably was not much blood. A little blood goes a long way in the snow.

Another thing I'd like to add. All of us are proud of being successful. How many pictures have you seen on here of elk, deer, moose, cougar, bear, coyotes and you name it that have been taken hunting? Trappers are no different. That wolf was a first and maybe a once in a lifetime catch for that guy. Naturally he wanted pictures to show to friends.
Just saying put youself in his shoes for a minute and cut him a little slack.
Learn from his mistake. I'm sure he did and is regreting it.

I never said I was against trapping, I just said that it wasn't for me because I wouldn't like knowing that an animal COULD be suffering at my expense. I am just a believer in trying to complete the most humane kill possible but to each their own. I am not judging.

Exactly the kind of post that you made before and the reason why I was and am upset.
You seem to be starting out with the conclusion that trapping is less humane than hunting and you go on to imply that trappers have less compassion for wildlife then you do.
That is just not the case. If I thought that an animal could be suffering at my expense I wouldn't have made the set to start with.
You are engageing in the same demonazation of trappers that the animal rights crowd does all be it to a lesser degree.
The animal rights groups also portray hunters as cruel neanderthals that take enjoyment out of watching an animal die. How do you like being painted with that brush?
I don't like it when someone classifies me similarly.

[vandeman17]

Let's be real clear about this. The reason that picture is causing such a stink is because of all the blood in that photo. That blood wasn't caused by the trap or the trapper. How many other pictures have been posted of wolves this year? I've see a lot of bloody pictures and this is the one that starts the controversy. There seems to be a connection between the bloody picture and trapping. That is just unfair. It was the kids shooting at the wolf that caused all the blood.
Was it smart to post the picture? No it was not but when I see people posting on this site stuff like this

As much as I don't like wolves, these types of pictures always make me feel bad for them. I am not against trapping but I couldn't do it myself. Would rather make a quick, humane kill and not make them suffer.

Well, that just upsets me. There is no evidence that the wolf suffered in the trap what so ever. Did you see the picture of its foot in the trap? There was zero damage. That wolf was trapped humanely and to say trapping is somehow inhumane is just wrong. Everything went right until the kids shot at the wolf.
There would have been just as much blood if the wolf had been shot by a hunter and not trapped, probably more.

To top it off there probably was not much blood. A little blood goes a long way in the snow.

Another thing I'd like to add. All of us are proud of being successful. How many pictures have you seen on here of elk, deer, moose, cougar, bear, coyotes and you name it that have been taken hunting? Trappers are no different. That wolf was a first and maybe a once in a lifetime catch for that guy. Naturally he wanted pictures to show to friends.
Just saying put youself in his shoes for a minute and cut him a little slack.
Learn from his mistake. I'm sure he did and is regreting it.

I never said I was against trapping, I just said that it wasn't for me because I wouldn't like knowing that an animal COULD be suffering at my expense. I am just a believer in trying to complete the most humane kill possible but to each their own. I am not judging.

Exactly the kind of post that you made before and the reason why I was and am upset.
You seem to be starting out with the conclusion that trapping is less humane than hunting and you go on to imply that trappers have less compassion for wildlife then you do.
That is just not the case. If I thought that an animal could be suffering at my expense I wouldn't have made the set to start with.
You are engageing in the same demonazation of trappers that the animal rights crowd does all be it to a lesser degree.
The animal rights groups also portray hunters as cruel neanderthals that take enjoyment out of watching an animal die. How do you like being painted with that brush?
I don't like it when someone classifies me similarly.

Never once did I say anything about you trapping or anybody else for that matter. All I have been saying is that it isn't for me and I wouldn't do it. Nothing more, nothing less.

[TeacherMan]

Nice deep catch with an MB 750 

[Johnb317]

Responsible hunters and trappers need to always be careful about how we are seen by the urban public, or we will see more government regulations pop up.   
Remember the fiasco with the elk up in skagit? County a couple years ago?   Was not good for any of us.   

We also need to stick together

Just my      And probably all it's worth

[pianoman9701]

When I was growing up, you shot a deer and went driving through town with it strapped to the roof of your car. No longer is this the case.

Not only ethics, but sensitivity (I know, a bad word) dictates that we don't display our kills in as public a way. The guy was posting the picture on a trapping website where he thought he was among friends. Big mistake! The internet is among friends and 7 billion other people. This is probably a really good guy (and apparently a really good trapper), who made the mistake of posting a live animal in a trap. He knows now this was a mistake. I feel bad for him. I'm sure he learned a lot about PR from this.

[seth30]

When I was growing up, you shot a deer and went driving through town with it strapped to the roof of your car. No longer is this the case.

Not only ethics, but sensitivity (I know, a bad word) dictates that we don't display our kills in as public a way. The guy was posting the picture on a trapping website where he thought he was among friends. Big mistake! The internet is among friends and 7 billion other people. This is probably a really good guy (and apparently a really good trapper), who made the mistake of posting a live animal in a trap. He knows now this was a mistake. I feel bad for him. I'm sure he learned a lot about PR from this.

[Machias]

I love the photo, plus Bruce is right on the money, absolutely no damage to the pad.  My issue is posting the dang thing on the web.  I think they talked about 5 or 6 times, about this very subject, in the class.  This subject, wolf trapping, is a hot button issue and will be for a while.  It's not the same as posting a fox or coyote in a trap, even though in reality it's no different.

[Machias]

Let's be real clear about this. The reason that picture is causing such a stink is because of all the blood in that photo. That blood wasn't caused by the trap or the trapper. How many other pictures have been posted of wolves this year? I've see a lot of bloody pictures and this is the one that starts the controversy. There seems to be a connection between the bloody picture and trapping. That is just unfair. It was the kids shooting at the wolf that caused all the blood.
Was it smart to post the picture? No it was not but when I see people posting on this site stuff like this

As much as I don't like wolves, these types of pictures always make me feel bad for them. I am not against trapping but I couldn't do it myself. Would rather make a quick, humane kill and not make them suffer.

Well, that just upsets me. There is no evidence that the wolf suffered in the trap what so ever. Did you see the picture of its foot in the trap? There was zero damage. That wolf was trapped humanely and to say trapping is somehow inhumane is just wrong. Everything went right until the kids shot at the wolf.
There would have been just as much blood if the wolf had been shot by a hunter and not trapped, probably more.

To top it off there probably was not much blood. A little blood goes a long way in the snow.

Another thing I'd like to add. All of us are proud of being successful. How many pictures have you seen on here of elk, deer, moose, cougar, bear, coyotes and you name it that have been taken hunting? Trappers are no different. That wolf was a first and maybe a once in a lifetime catch for that guy. Naturally he wanted pictures to show to friends.
Just saying put youself in his shoes for a minute and cut him a little slack.
Learn from his mistake. I'm sure he did and is regreting it.

I never said I was against trapping, I just said that it wasn't for me because I wouldn't like knowing that an animal COULD be suffering at my expense. I am just a believer in trying to complete the most humane kill possible but to each their own. I am not judging.

Exactly the kind of post that you made before and the reason why I was and am upset.
You seem to be starting out with the conclusion that trapping is less humane than hunting and you go on to imply that trappers have less compassion for wildlife then you do.
That is just not the case. If I thought that an animal could be suffering at my expense I wouldn't have made the set to start with.
You are engageing in the same demonazation of trappers that the animal rights crowd does all be it to a lesser degree.
The animal rights groups also portray hunters as cruel neanderthals that take enjoyment out of watching an animal die. How do you like being painted with that brush?
I don't like it when someone classifies me similarly.

Never once did I say anything about you trapping or anybody else for that matter. All I have been saying is that it isn't for me and I wouldn't do it. Nothing more, nothing less.

You may not have ment to come across they way it did to me, but I took it exactly as Bruce did.