Down goes illuminated nocks!

[huntnphool]

This should already be a done deal.  The commission voted to approve lite nocks. WHAAAATTTT??? You heard that right... 

The Commission voted to approve lite nocks!!!!   

 Thats correct, just a lesson in delayed gratification. 

[Chase 1]

This should already be a done deal.  The Commission voted to approve lite nocks. WHAAAATTTT??? You heard that right... 

The Commission voted to approve lite nocks!!!! 4-3

That should do it...

[Matt]

Let's forget about lighted nocks for a second and let me ask you two.  What would you list as the most important issue in regards to bowhunting right now and why?  Take some time and really contemplate this before answering.  If you had to focus all of your attention to just one bowhunting related issue what would that be.

[huntnphool]

Let's forget about lighted nocks for a second and let me ask you two.  What would you list as the most important issue in regards to bowhunting right now and why?  Take some time and really contemplate this before answering.  If you had to focus all of your attention to just one bowhunting related issue what would that be.

 I'll assume this was, in part, addressed at me. There are lots of archery related issues IMO but if I had to prioritize them and start at the top of my list it would be lobbying to get our lost season dates and days back.

[Chase 1]

Let's forget about lighted nocks for a second and let me ask you two.  What would you list as the most important issue in regards to bowhunting right now and why?  Take some time and really contemplate this before answering.  If you had to focus all of your attention to just one bowhunting related issue what would that be.

1. Fair and equatable distribution of allocation across the board for archers.
2. Increased opportunity for archer days in the field and available units.
3. Vocal representation of archer intrests in WFDW issues.

Do you really need the why? Nocks fall into #3. As far as my priorities? Read back through the thread and I think you will easily find your answers.

[Matt]

I've read the whole thing.  I agree with most except on the list of importance lighted nocks don't even merit an entry.  I nice thing to have but important to our sport no.  Mandatory Bowhunter education would be up there for me.

[pianoman9701]

I've read the whole thing.  I agree with most except on the list of importance lighted nocks don't even merit an entry.  I nice thing to have but important to our sport no.  Mandatory Bowhunter education would be up there for me.

Just let me put on this helmet before the chit hits the fan for this comment.

[huntnphool]

Mandatory Bowhunter education would be up there for me.

 Waste of time!! All it would do is generate revenue for the state, the people making unethical decisions are going to do it regardless whether of not the took some class or passed some test. Hunter education grads make unethical decisions every year, do you believe a bowhunter education grad wouldn't?

[pianoman9701]

And the fight begins. In the right corner, Matt, weighing in at 210 lbs, with huntnphool in the left, foaming at the mouth and chomping at the bit to take a swipe at the newcomer. 

[huntnphool]

And the fight begins. In the right corner, Matt, weighing in at 210 lbs, with huntnphool in the left, foaming at the mouth and chomping at the bit to take a swipe at the newcomer. 

 No fighting, I'm just pointing out that educated people make unethical decisions daily, a mandatory class is not going to change that.

[Chase 1]

I've read the whole thing.  I agree with most except on the list of importance lighted nocks don't even merit an entry.  I nice thing to have but important to our sport no.  Mandatory Bowhunter education would be up there for me.

Like I've said, everyone gets an opinion. IMHO, every issue that is brought to the forefront and effects archers makes the list. For that matter, if it effects sportsman in general it makes my list.

I do find it puzzling that the same guy who just said he wants to, "...get back to arguing about nocks" is now trying so hard to change the subject? 

I guess when all else fails and all the misinformation has been dispelled, all the "facts" have been clarified, and the bully pulpit crumbles...try and change the subject. Funny how that works. No worries, if I was on the other side of this issue I think I would want to change the subject too. 

[Matt]

Chase, sarcasm is definately wasted on you.   Try less starch.  If you want to exert a ton of effort to a lighted nock have fun.  It takes far less effort to keep it out that getting it in.  And ya know what I won't cry if it does.  In fact I would waste little less that a second on it's passing.  Why because the nock itself is so insignificant in the big picture that it's actually funny.  The only fact that isn't funny about it is the valuable money that the state is wasting over it.  Whenever there is a reasonable alternative the arguement deminishes itself.  I was just trying to get folks to focus on some real issues that are worth fighting for.  I could keep this thread going forever as could others but what would be the point.  I just don't have anything better to do at this particular moment.  Trust me I have national issues in tournament archery that I am fighting for and I prefer to fight for positive things than against minute ones.

piano thanks for the compliment btw, I aint seen 210 in 10 years. 

[Matt]

As for the attitude about bowhunter education.  That is one that I could passionately argue especially against arguements like yours.  Because if everyone thought like you then why should we have drivers education, hunter education or any other type.  There are only benefits to an education program and only an idiot would say that there wasn't........Calm down I didn't actually call YOU an idiot let me make that clear.

[huntnphool]

As for the attitude about bowhunter education.  That is one that I could passionately argue especially against arguements like yours.

 The formost arguement Snapshot and others have been preaching is that luminoks promote unethical choices. My contention is that unethical hunters will make unethical decisions regardless whether or not they are using the luminoks. You are suggesting that luminok proponents need only take a bowhunter education class and Snapshots entire foundation for arguement is worthless, correct?

[Matt]

Luminocks will not promote unethical shots nor will they aid an archer in killing an animal.  The only tru argument for them is that they may help you find your arrow but that arguement is weak at best and I really don't want to go into the 20+ scenerios why it won't.  If you are going to use them in low light then you better have a spot light too cuz you won't be able to see the animal through your peep.  People are going to take unethical shots no matter wha,t we can only hope that it is limited to just a few and that they don't wound too many animals.  Don't get me started on ethics and hunting especially bowhunting.