Down goes illuminated nocks!

[Curly]

Good points phool.  I think I have now figured out the commission.  They do whatever they feel like and if public input happens to coincide with their views, then they'll say there was broad public support............but if the public input doesn't fall in-line with their already preconceived views, they don't mention the public input.

[Snapshot]

Time for all bowhunters to move on and address the more significant problems and issues we face.  Lets get united and stand up for our seasons and achieving the goal of improving our time in the woods as bowhunters, expand our seasons, get back what we once had, open more GMU's...

One can only hope! If they who challenged the self-imposed, hard-won restrictions on electronics in archery will let it rest, why then, yes, we can get on to more important work. But while there is a fire in the engine room isn't the time to be swabbing the deck.

[Machias]

I don't think the small minority of trad hunters should be able to dictate what the overwhelming majority of archery hunters overall can and can't do, that's just my opinion.

Take out the trad and you might be right.  There were and are plenty of compound users also against lighted nocks, this is not just a trad versus modern issue.

[bobcat]

In general, I don't think hunter's opinions should have too much weight in the setting of hunting seasons and rules. If they did everything hunters wanted, we'd have general rifle seasons for elk from September 15 to September 30, and general rifle season for deer would be November 1 to November 30.

[huntnphool]

I don't think the small minority of trad hunters should be able to dictate what the overwhelming majority of archery hunters overall can and can't do, that's just my opinion.

Take out the trad and you might be right.  There were and are plenty of compound users also against lighted nocks, this is not just a trad versus modern issue.

Point taken Fred.

[Curly]

In general, I don't think hunter's opinions should have too much weight in the setting of hunting seasons and rules. If they did everything hunters wanted, we'd have general rifle seasons for elk from September 15 to September 30, and general rifle season for deer would be November 1 to November 30.

Why waste everybody's time with polls then.  I do agree in a sense, they shouldn't manage based on public opinion, but it doesn't make sense to have polls and just dismiss them either.

[bobcat]

In general, I don't think hunter's opinions should have too much weight in the setting of hunting seasons and rules. If they did everything hunters wanted, we'd have general rifle seasons for elk from September 15 to September 30, and general rifle season for deer would be November 1 to November 30.

Why waste everybody's time with polls then.  I do agree in a sense, they shouldn't manage based on public opinion, but it doesn't make sense to have polls and just dismiss them either.

I think they still like to have an idea of hunter's opinions on certain issues. So the polls do have value. And I believe they actually do listen to us at times. Look at the cougar seasons this year- we've now got a 7 month season, statewide, no weapon restrictions, just like it used to be.

[huntnphool]

In general, I don't think hunter's opinions should have too much weight in the setting of hunting seasons and rules. If they did everything hunters wanted, we'd have general rifle seasons for elk from September 15 to September 30, and general rifle season for deer would be November 1 to November 30.

 Then why go through the time and trouble to create the poll of public opinion? at what point would the poll have even mattered, 85%, 90% 95%?

 In hind sight Bob it sure seems disingenuous to me.

[NWWABOWHNTR]

Phool,  there seemed to be some issues with the survey and the accuracy.  The parameters for getting a survey was supposed to be elk and deer license for the previous ( I think?) 3 years, however hundreds if not thousands of bowhunters who met those parameters did not receive the survey, including some very influential people within our State government.  If you look, out of the 24,000 that met the surveys requirements only 10% answered, that raised many an eyebrow.  As Matt stated above there are alternatives on the market of legal lighted nocks, no batteries. 

[Curly]

I don't like a lot of the decisions the commission has made lately:
1)  Approving the category system of special permits
2)  Adopting the wolf plan
3)  Not allowing Lighted nocks

Personally, I think they are doing a lousy job.  They have lost all credibility in my mind.  (They really shouldn't do polls and waste time and money.  They will do what they want anyway).

[boneaddict]

I love how people get so pissy about little things, if you dont want to use them dont, I see no problem with help recovering an arrow in the forest and also being able to easier seeing your shot. Why is that a bad thing?

i always think its funny when a post like this comes 10 minutes after a perfect plausible explanation. LOL   

[huntnphool]

Phool,  there seemed to be some issues with the survey and the accuracy.  The parameters for getting a survey was supposed to be elk and deer license for the previous ( I think?) 3 years, however hundreds if not thousands of bowhunters who met those parameters did not receive the survey, including some very influential people within our State government.  If you look, out of the 24,000 that met the surveys requirements only 10% answered, that raised many an eyebrow.  As Matt stated above there are alternatives on the market of legal lighted nocks, no batteries.

 As was brought up earlier, the main reason behind the opposition of legalizing luminoks was they promoted "risky shots", "unethical shots", "shots in the dark" etc. yet now it seems these these arguments are no longer valid or important as long as batteries are not involved. How are these chemically lighted sticks any different with these concerns held by so many "anti's"?

 I'm not picking on you in particular NW, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[Curly]

I don't like a lot of the decisions the commission has made lately:
1)  Approving the category system of special permits
2)  Adopting the wolf plan
3)  Not allowing Lighted nocks

Personally, I think they are doing a lousy job.  They have lost all credibility in my mind.  (They really shouldn't do polls and waste time and money.  They will do what they want anyway).

I should say that I don't really care that lighted nocks are not legal.  I just think they should give reasons why they are not allowing them and not cop out and say they will look at it again next year.  If they have reasons why they should not be allowed, then stick to those reasons and be done with it.  Are they really going to change their minds if they think about the issue for another year?

[boneaddict]

politics.......

[huntnphool]

politics.......

You got that right Bone!!!