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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #150 on: April 20, 2012, 08:11:58 PM »
I don't know anything about the commission being minus one member last weekend. But I'll bone up on that because I want to know who...

Curly, BJ's testimony was probably PURCHASED by way of monetary support of the group she represents. She has always followed the money. I don't fault her for that; it is the way of politics.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #151 on: April 20, 2012, 08:33:52 PM »
How is it so many bow hunters just can NOT grasp the primitive weapon concept ????  They can read it , but they cant fully understand what it means.  They just want what they want , with out regards to what changes will result from allowing changes to the original negotiated reasons for separate archery seasons to begin with.   :twocents:

What is primitive about today's archery equipment?

Great question! Other than the machine that flings the arrow Washington has so far kept it under control, unlike some other states (that have so many deer that they are pests to be killed by any means at hand). I think the regulations should keep bowhunting as primitive as possible, because if it were left up to those who stand to profit by allowing anything and everything into archery season it would be completely unrecognizable in a generation's time. It is the 'anything goes' mentality that may one day lead to compounds with all their accouterments being stuck into a different class of season. If a time comes that anything electronic is allowed on compounds, how could they and longbows be clasified as the same weapon? They couldn't.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #152 on: April 20, 2012, 08:39:40 PM »
If a time comes that anything electronic is allowed on compounds, how could they and longbows be clasified as the same weapon? They couldn't.

 :chuckle:  That's funny!  They both can be shot with sights or not, they both can be shot with fingers or a release and they both shoot the same projectile so how could they not be classified as the same weapon?  Because of what you shoot?   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #153 on: April 20, 2012, 08:52:05 PM »
If a time comes that anything electronic is allowed on compounds, how could they and longbows be classified as the same weapon? They couldn't.

 :chuckle:  That's funny!  They both can be shot with sights or not, they both can be shot with fingers or a release and they both shoot the same projectile so how could they not be classified as the same weapon?  Because of what you shoot?   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:



Maybe I should have said 'naked' longbows. A potential difference in classification might be electronics.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #154 on: April 20, 2012, 08:57:40 PM »
Why do all the "traditional bowhunters" hate on every new thing that comes out for compound bows? You can use what you like to use. If you don't like lighted nocks then you don't have to use them. I just don't get why we all can't be on the same page? We all would like the same thing not to lose arrows and to recover our animals and if someone wants to use a lighted nock I say let them.

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #155 on: April 20, 2012, 09:05:35 PM »
Why do all the "traditional bowhunters" hate on every new thing that comes out for compound bows? You can use what you like to use. If you don't like lighted nocks then you don't have to use them. I just don't get why we all can't be on the same page? We all would like the same thing not to lose arrows and to recover our animals and if someone wants to use a lighted nock I say let them.
That lighted nocks will help to recover animals is a fantasy.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #156 on: April 20, 2012, 09:06:52 PM »
Haters gonna hate!
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #157 on: April 20, 2012, 09:07:37 PM »
I don't know anything about the commission being minus one member last weekend. But I'll bone up on that because I want to know who...

So Commissioner Douvia says "Compounds are the problem..." Sheesh.

But who was absent?
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #158 on: April 20, 2012, 09:08:53 PM »
All it is is scare tactics by you and your supporters.
And then there are people that don't give a rip about whether bowhunting survives for their grandkids or not, and their rash, unthoughtful actions are harmful to bowhunting.

 What actions would those be specifically Snapshot? Where are the consequences to these actions officially noted?  :dunno:

 Again I think you are spouting your minds own speculation without a shred of evidence.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #159 on: April 20, 2012, 09:11:32 PM »
I'm a lover, Lowedog, not a hater. But being a son of the revolution it is in my blood to stand up to perceived treachery.  ;)
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #160 on: April 20, 2012, 09:16:27 PM »
All it is is scare tactics by you and your supporters.
And then there are people that don't give a rip about whether bowhunting survives for their grandkids or not, and their rash, unthoughtful actions are harmful to bowhunting.

 What actions would those be specifically Snapshot? Where are the consequences to these actions officially noted?  :dunno:

 Again I think you are spouting your minds own speculation without a shred of evidence.


Specifically, attacking the status quo of the archery rules despite the consequences.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #161 on: April 20, 2012, 09:17:24 PM »
I'm a lover, Lowedog, not a hater. But being a son of the revolution it is in my blood to stand up to perceived treachery.  ;)

A lover of only what your closed mind thinks is acceptable.   :rolleyes:  A hater of anything else.  :chuckle:  Why else would you put so much effort into something as minute as a lighted nock? 



So Commissioner Douvia says "Compounds are the problem..." Sheesh.


What problem? 
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #162 on: April 20, 2012, 09:20:03 PM »
That 85% number that has been paraded around is out of the only 10% that bothered to respond at all to the poll, and the poll only went to the people that the Big Game Manager, Dave Ware, decided they should go to.

 So what are you saying here? Dave Ware had his own agenda and knew how the people that he sent the poll to would vote? Come on man, thats a stretch don't you think! :chuckle:

 If Dave did not have his own agenda then you are suggesting that he intentionally omitted trad hunters and anyone else he thought would be opposed to luminoks? :chuckle: Again, thats a real stretch!

 You honestly believe that even if the poll reached every archery hunter in the state that the results percentage would be that much different? A lot of polls are conducted this way, sampling a percentage of a user group, most polls like this are pretty accurate with a +/- 5%. Even if you assume the remaining user group would have resulted in a additional 5% against you would still be looking at a landslide favorable result.
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #163 on: April 20, 2012, 09:22:54 PM »
Specifically, attacking the status quo of the archery rules despite the consequences.

 And what would those consequences be Snapshot? Come on man, I'm giving you the podium so you can let everyone know exactly what WDFW and the commission will do, lay it on us brother. :chuckle:
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Re: Down goes illuminated nocks!
« Reply #164 on: April 20, 2012, 09:43:28 PM »
Quote from: link=topic=96267.msg1246693#msg1246693 date=1334964605
then there are people that don't give a rip about whether bowhunting survives for their grandkids or not, and their rash, unthoughtful actions are harmful to bowhunting. They are the opportunists; people who care only about their best chance to kill something. It doesn't matter to them whether they use a compound or some other weapon.They are not the type who'd carry their bow if they were to draw a once-in-a-lifetime moose tag. Would you?

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