Down goes illuminated nocks!

[Lowedog]

then there are people that don't give a rip about whether bowhunting survives for their grandkids or not, and their rash, unthoughtful actions are harmful to bowhunting. They are the opportunists; people who care only about their best chance to kill something. It doesn't matter to them whether they use a compound or some other weapon.They are not the type who'd carry their bow if they were to draw a once-in-a-lifetime moose tag. Would you?

 

[bobcat]

Now that's a HIGH horse!   

[huntnphool]

 

[Chase 1]

Why do all the "traditional bowhunters" hate on every new thing that comes out for compound bows? You can use what you like to use. If you don't like lighted nocks then you don't have to use them. I just don't get why we all can't be on the same page? We all would like the same thing not to lose arrows and to recover our animals and if someone wants to use a lighted nock I say let them.

That lighted nocks will help to recover animals is a fantasy.

You say a lot yet totally lack substance or knowledge. Your Pandora's box theory, rigged poles, voice of the revolution, edge of the technology cliff, open door for laser guided grenade tip arrows and on and on... blah blah blah. Are you one of the "representatives" of archers that was at the Moses meeting?   

[popeshawnpaul]

Even if we all agree to let it die and move on to those other important issues, as Chase1 brought up, why should we believe that anything we bring to the table will be considered in good faith? The decision makers clearly don't hold in regard the recommendations of the department, GMAC or the hunters.

Exactly.  Why would GMAC members even bother wasting their time anymore meeting on issues when it really doesn't matter what they recommend?  Or, why should hunters even bother taking the time to vote in WDFW polls when it seems that it doesn't matter what the poll results are?

I heard the director at one of the last GMAC meetings say the GMAC would be taken serious and that the recommendations would be carefully considered by the WDFW.  This is but one issue where this has not occurred.  It's disappointing the process is probably an exercise in futility.  I'll once again stress that everyone on this thread, no matter if your pro-nock or not, will be concerned when 85% of us don't want lazer guided grenade arrow tips, the GMAC votes to not allow them, and they get passed by the Commission... 

[JCKILLSHOT]

Snapshot you must like loosing arrows!!

[huntnnw]

How is it so many bow hunters just can NOT grasp the primative weapon concept ?  They can read it , but they cant fully understand what it means.  They just want what they want , with out regards to what changes will result from allowing changes to the original negotiated reasons for seperate archery seasons to begin with.   

my point exactly..why in the hell was inline muzzys allowed into the muzzy world?

[Chase 1]

Even if we all agree to let it die and move on to those other important issues, as Chase1 brought up, why should we believe that anything we bring to the table will be considered in good faith? The decision makers clearly don't hold in regard the recommendations of the department, GMAC or the hunters.

Exactly.  Why would GMAC members even bother wasting their time anymore meeting on issues when it really doesn't matter what they recommend?  Or, why should hunters even bother taking the time to vote in WDFW polls when it seems that it doesn't matter what the poll results are?

I heard the director at one of the last GMAC meetings say the GMAC would be taken serious and that the recommendations would be carefully considered by the WDFW.  This is but one issue where this has not occurred.  It's disappointing the process is probably an exercise in futility.  I'll once again stress that everyone on this thread, no matter if your pro-nock or not, will be concerned when 85% of us don't want lazer guided grenade arrow tips, the GMAC votes to not allow them, and they get passed by the Commission...

The tough part is that, at least in this case, the WDFW did listen and did recommend the change to the Commission. How they managed to find a justification to vote against it is baffling.

[Curly]

Even if we all agree to let it die and move on to those other important issues, as Chase1 brought up, why should we believe that anything we bring to the table will be considered in good faith? The decision makers clearly don't hold in regard the recommendations of the department, GMAC or the hunters.

Exactly.  Why would GMAC members even bother wasting their time anymore meeting on issues when it really doesn't matter what they recommend?  Or, why should hunters even bother taking the time to vote in WDFW polls when it seems that it doesn't matter what the poll results are?

I heard the director at one of the last GMAC meetings say the GMAC would be taken serious and that the recommendations would be carefully considered by the WDFW.  This is but one issue where this has not occurred.  It's disappointing the process is probably an exercise in futility.  I'll once again stress that everyone on this thread, no matter if your pro-nock or not, will be concerned when 85% of us don't want lazer guided grenade arrow tips, the GMAC votes to not allow them, and they get passed by the Commission...

The tough part is that, at least in this case, the WDFW did listen and did recommend the change to the Commission. How they managed to find a justification to vote against it is baffling.

The whole process has gotten frustrating. 

The special permit category b.s. that we have today I wanted the commission to not approve it and wait for at least another year to allow time for us hunters to give input.  Nope, they went and approved it, when there was a bunch of flaws with it and they said something about working the bugs out later.    (I don't believe the GMAC was all behind the permit system either).

The 4 point APR was not recommended by WDFW biologists and the commission went and voted to approve it.  (I believe this was also against the GMAC recommendations).

Then the wolf plan I would have hoped that the commission would go against the Department but they went along with them and approved the plan.

And then this decision on lighted nocks.  Just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I just don't see any consistency.  Some things the commission votes with WDFW and others they don't.  Seems like more times than not I am in agreement with GMAC recommendations........

[JCKILLSHOT]

How does a nock change bow hunting??

[JimmyHoffa]

How does a nock change bow hunting??

You get to make cooler videos that make it look like a tracer hitting an animal at 70 yds 1 minute before legal time ends.

[JCKILLSHOT]

So that changes bow hunting? If someone is going to do that they're going to do it w or with out a lighted nock.

[Chase 1]

How does a nock change bow hunting??

You get to make cooler videos that make it look like a tracer hitting an animal at 70 yds 1 minute before legal time ends.

So your contention is that lite nocks encourage increased poaching and unethical hunting practice for the entertainment and illeagle footage of the hunt? C'mon man!

[Matt]

What is primitive about today's archery equipment?

Exactly.  And that is the attitude that will cost you and every other bowhunter days in the woods.  At some point a line must be drawn and that line should be at electronics on the equipment.

[BULLBLASTER]

 

What is primitive about today's archery equipment?

Exactly.  And that is the attitude that will cost you and every other bowhunter days in the woods.  At some point a line must be drawn and that line should be at electronics on the equipment.