What caliber is flatter?

[wraithen]

If you are going to be handloading....get a 7RM.  Stock up on Retumbo and 180 Bergers.  There may be more bullets in 30 cal, but they just aren't as slick as the 7mm's until you get into the 220-230gr bullets, which a WM wouldn't push fast enough to be efficient.  In a 30 cal, it takes a large case to beat the 7mm's.  Even a  300RUM with 210 bergers vs a 7RM with 180's is a wash ballistically.  The RUM does have a little more energy, but not by much and drift and drop are virtually identical.  There will be a new player in the 7mm cartridge field soon, but it will be a custom build deal for now.    More details on that one later.

Knowing who you are I'm afraid to ask this but custom as in a little modification or custom as in you're gonna take a 30mm case and smash a 7mm bullet into it

[rbros]

HAHA.....no worries, have I shot with you at matches?....it will fit into a standard magnum action.  The 30mm is a good idea, but knowing that a 7/338 Lapua Improved will destroy a barrel in a short amount of rounds, I will save that one for a later date.

By custom, I mean it will be a proprietary case design.  Although a mainstream manufacturer has taken an interest, we will have to wait and see how things shake out.  We will have dies readily available though and case forming is a breeze.

[iceman91m]

I would take a look at your methods....if you are seizing the bolt often, perhaps handloading is not your cup of mustard....and  it's gonna take more than a fancy scope to sling 12hundy.

I did do hand loads a few times but it was doing it with factory ammo

[jyerxa]

I am an over the counter kind of guy. I'm not so specialized. Some of you really blow me out of the water with all of the knowledge you have. I learn a lot from you guys.

But for us over the counter kind of guys this link is really cool. I have compared so many different rounds and out to 300 yards is really amazing. 06, 7mm, 300 mag etc etc etc. Almost inch per inch are identical.

I shoot a 7mm. I guess I just chew the fat and say mines better. 

http://www.winchester.com/learning-center/ballistics-calculator/Pages/ballistics-calculator.aspx

[iceman91m]

i thinkin on the 7RM but i do like the selection on 300WM

[huntnphool]

i thinkin on the 7RM but i do like the selection on 300WM

 This kind of discussion always makes me laugh. Does over the counter selection really matter? Its not like you will be switching up every other week. It may take you a couple, maybe three four boxes of ammo before you find which one works the best for your rifle. Unless you hand load, finding a specific factory box that shoots 1/2 moa is not likely to happen. If you are dead set on using factory loads be happy with hitting a softball at 300 yards and call it quits.

 There are plenty of selection for both calibers at any sporting good store to accomplish this, having dozens and dozens of different shelf options should not be the determining factor in your choice.

[iceman91m]

thanks for the insight. im almost dead set on hand loading. have you ever shot bergers? i watch best of the west and long range pursuit alot and they pretty much got me convinced/hooked on berger VLD's

[huntnphool]

thanks for the insight. im almost dead set on hand loading. have you ever shot bergers? i watch best of the west and long range pursuit alot and they pretty much got me convinced/hooked on berger VLD's

 Depending on your twist rate the 168 VLD would be the one I would be going with.

[iceman91m]

speaking of twist is the higher the better? the one im lookin at is 10

[huntnphool]

speaking of twist is the higher the better? the one im lookin at is 10

1/10 will work well with the 168, maybe 180 Barnes TSX as well.

[iceman91m]

alright well thanks for all your help. now i just gotta wait 3 damn months to buy my gun. i just might have to drive back to WA to buy it

[huntnnw]

i would own a hunting rifle on how flat...sometimes turing turrets isnt a option and u better know your gun and drop rates on the fly...a flat shooting mag is worth its weight in gold out hunting..u can 0 at 250 and be good at to 400 with a mater of inches

[kentrek]

thanks for the insight. im almost dead set on hand loading. have you ever shot bergers? i watch best of the west and long range pursuit alot and they pretty much got me convinced/hooked on berger VLD's

so far wev only shot 4 elk and a few deer since we started shooting them in 2010,i would really look at the average range you would be shooting.i think at distances >200 yards the berger would be hard to beet but we had one blow up on rib and didnt get too much penetration on a spike bull at about 60 yards(185gr,30 cal,2820 fps). maybe other people have had different results at close range on critters ? all the other animals shot were  further out and died incredibly fast

[iceman91m]

i havent been to the area i want to hunt yet but i would only imagine alot of my shots are going to be over 200 now that im outta the trees

[TwoSixFourWins]

Go get a 264 WinMag