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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2012, 01:41:59 PM »
Facts are stubborn things.

Try talking with those who have to live amongst those beasts.  Not the elitist "professors" who sit on thrones writing books whilst wagging their scraggly hooves at us lowly humans.

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2012, 01:49:20 PM »
Of Wolves and Men by Barry Lopez is probably the best example. I believe Mech touched on it a few times in his books, but that guy wrote a TON of them. The Wolf Almanac talk's about it too, if I remember correctly. I actually haven't read any wolf ecology books in a while. I've taken a break from it to focus on German Shepherds and reading into the breed as i moving forward in raising them.
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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2012, 02:01:48 PM »
Of Wolves and Men by Barry Lopez is probably the best example. I believe Mech touched on it a few times in his books, but that guy wrote a TON of them. The Wolf Almanac talk's about it too, if I remember correctly. I actually haven't read any wolf ecology books in a while. I've taken a break from it to focus on German Shepherds and reading into the breed as i moving forward in raising them.
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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2012, 02:07:57 PM »
I'm hoping to. I've only started a year and a half ago. When my first female shepherd turns 2, I have to get her hips and elbows x-rayed to make sure she's healthy. I'm not going to be some backyard breeder. I am standing behind strict ethic's and morale when it comes to my dogs. But yes, am aspiring to have a kennel. I am friends with 2 other kennels(who's pups go for $1000 starting!) and they have been helping me out and kind've mentoring me. I currently have one female that I am hoping to breed, and another female and a male for guardian purposes. The male was adopted and neutered, and the younger female came from a well reknowned kennel, but was free because she was born with megaesophogous, so they couldn't ethically sell her and I took her in to give her a good home... and i could never dream of being able to afford this kennel's amazing working lines shepherds.
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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2012, 02:08:33 PM »
Put money and effort to better use and put those fences around our National borders.

well we agree on something.
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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2012, 02:13:33 PM »
Put money and effort to better use and put those fences around our National borders.

well we agree on something.

 :tup:

When the smoke and mirrors dissipate, you might be surprised on how much we agree.

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2012, 02:15:31 PM »
That is one of my Grandfather's paintings.  Can you identify the figures in it?

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2012, 03:04:44 PM »
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Here's another of my Pop's paintings..... with meaning....

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2012, 03:25:35 PM »
humanure can you give me the reasons you want wolves here and how they are a good thing? just curious cause i havent found any yet?

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2012, 03:37:12 PM »
The state could have managed wolves by letting us and ranchers do this:  :hunter: and  :bfg:  and  :mgun2:

But instead they go to placing flags.  :dunno:  What a joke. :rolleyes: 
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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2012, 03:53:49 PM »
The state could have managed wolves by letting us and ranchers do this:  :hunter: and  :bfg:  and  :mgun2:

But instead they go to placing flags.  :dunno:  What a joke. :rolleyes:

 :yeah: :tup:  maybe if i put flags around my house it won't get broken into? :dunno: :bdid: :bdid: :bdid:
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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2012, 03:54:15 PM »
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Here's another of my Pop's paintings..... with meaning....

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2012, 04:18:46 PM »
humanure can you give me the reasons you want wolves here and how they are a good thing? just curious cause i havent found any yet?

Do i really have to reiterate why i feel so? I feel like I've said it many times already. Short answer: They shouldn't have been removed in the first place, as an integral species in this ecosystem.
We would be better off to not have been, but since we're here, it's our responsibility to exist without standing in natures way, It is not in our DNA to mandatorily become environmentally destructive juggernauts!

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2012, 04:55:18 PM »
humanure can you give me the reasons you want wolves here and how they are a good thing? just curious cause i havent found any yet?

Do i really have to reiterate why i feel so? I feel like I've said it many times already. Short answer: They shouldn't have been removed in the first place, as an integral species in this ecosystem.

Aw, C'mon manure... Surely your handlers have taught you better...

The Canadian grey wolves were never "removed" from this land anyway. It is the TIMBER WOLVES that actually belong here.

Bring back the TIMBER WOLVES, which actually belong here in our ecosystem  You see, it's all about the ecosystem. 

That is why I detest you ecoterrorists so deeply I can taste it.  Because your goal is not CONSERVING the ecosystem. It is doing the dirty work for a pack of global elitists who want to rule the world (and the United States) through chaos. 

You claim to care about the ecosystem, yet you've no understanding whatsoever how the ecosystem actually works and the fine, delicate balance required to maintain it.

That makes you and your ilk nothing more than ECOTERRORISTS.

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Re: State helps protect livestock from wolves
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2012, 04:59:23 PM »
The state could have managed wolves by letting us and ranchers do this:  :hunter: and  :bfg:  and  :mgun2:

But instead they go to placing flags.  :dunno:  What a joke. :rolleyes:

 :yeah: :tup:  maybe if i put flags around my house it won't get broken into? :dunno: :bdid: :bdid: :bdid:

I'll be sure to wear red flags to avoid being raped by a gang of ecoterrorists.

 


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