2011 harvest reports

[bobcat]

I would guess that the reason for the problems in the harvest report is that last year was the first year they began having people do a report for both their special permit, and one for their general season tag.

I see the general season deer and elk harvest reports are fine.

So is the moose harvest report. Probably sheep and goat too but I didn't look at them.

[Alan K]

Guys who don't report, or who are found to report dishonestly, shouldn't be able to get a license the next year.

It's unbelievable to me that there exist people who, almost in the same breath, will accuse WDFW of not being able to manage herds well, and then say that they actively lie to them about their hunting activities! It's like they expect WDFW to be perfect DESPITE them!

I'm not saying WDFW is perfect - there are lots of bones to pick with them. But for gods sake be honest in your hunting reports. I don't know what kind of totally twisted backwards logic goes into someone's decision that if they say they are unsuccessful, that will somehow convince WDFW that there should be more opportunities for a given area, or that maybe fewer people will visit their spot. It's just nuts.

Report honestly. Otherwise everything you might say about how hunters contribute to good wildlife management (which is TRUE generally) is an active lie for you personally.

Well said! I always report honestly.  Like you said, how can we expect them to accurately manage our herds with inaccurate data?

[NoBark]

The Harvest reports are bogus, I just went and looked to see if anyone else got a Cow in the unit I got drawn in, and it says 0 hunters reported, then I went to WDFW site to just double checked that I submitted mine, and sure enough I did, the reports arent accurate at all!!!

Same here.  Interesting. I wonder if they just pushed this out in a hurry or if the systen is really that messed?

[bobcat]

A lot of them also show more hunters than there were permits. Many of them show 100 hunters, and maybe only 1 permit, or 5 or 10. It's like all the data is scrambled together. None of it is right from what I could tell (on the deer and elk special permit hunts).

[Alan K]

A lot of them also show more hunters than there were permits. Many of them show 100 hunters, and maybe only 1 permit, or 5 or 10. It's like all the data is scrambled together. None of it is right from what I could tell (on the deer and elk special permit hunts).

I haven't spent a ton of time looking at them, but yeah it's odd that a bunch of them show 100 hunters even. I'd guess there is some sort of glitch going on.  Hopefully they get it fixed, I use these quite a bit when considering where to apply!

[bobcat]

A lot of them also show more hunters than there were permits. Many of them show 100 hunters, and maybe only 1 permit, or 5 or 10. It's like all the data is scrambled together. None of it is right from what I could tell (on the deer and elk special permit hunts).

I haven't spent a ton of time looking at them, but yeah it's odd that a bunch of them show 100 hunters even. I'd guess there is some sort of glitch going on.  Hopefully they get it fixed, I use these quite a bit when considering where to apply!

It changed during the day, this morning most of the elk permits showed zero hunters, some had 1. That changed sometime during the day to much higher numbers, with many of them being 100. So apparently they've been working on it. Hopefully it will be fixed soon. If not maybe we can ask for an extension of the application deadline. 

[jechicdr]

I think dishonesty could come back and hurt you.  Let's say you have a trophy rack from a special hunt or just a general season hunt and...you you lose your tag.  What if WDFW for whatever reason was investigating you and find this trophy rack and you reported not having harvested an animal that year.  I certainly want a paper trail if I legally harvested a trophy deer.

[wall of wood camp]

Good point Bobcat,  the reporting was different this year and I have to admit i was a little confused with the report when i filled it out for my elk I was successful with a 6 point bull which required the special permit that overlapped with the general season.  the animal was taken on the opening day of the general season but was still covered under the full range of dates of the special permit so i reported it as taken under the special permit season and not the general season.  i figured at least it got reported and could be correct either way.  I am all for reporting accurately to try and give our game department the best information they can get to try and manage the game regardless of my oppinions on how they can or cant manage it.  as far as the harvest reports and using them to determine where to apply for that is the furthest thing from my mind when i apply.  I apply for the same areas every year for the pure fact that your odds are increased 100 times if you know the area you hunt and can to some extent pattern the animals you hunt and learn their behaviors and tendencies escape routes, travel patterns. To put in for permits in an area i know little to nothing about because the success ratios appeard to be good according to a questionalble statisitcal report is just crazy in my mind.  Dont suggest extensions on the submittal date 30 days is plenty the sooner we put in the sooner we get the results and can use the time on the otherside of the drawing to start scouting and preparing for whichever permit we may be lucky enough to get drawn for. 

[Mr Mykiss]

Um... I looked up my hunt (which I reported for) and the numbers said two 1 points were harvested... should be at least one 6+ point. 

[Bob33]

Still not right.  I looked up one hunt I'm familiar with:

Permits issued: 10
Reports returned: 8
Hunters: 80

[trophyhunt]

Just look at the number of guys with 14 or more points that didn't draw, and one guy had 36 points without drawing. Blah blah blah, I know it's a lottery draw......this drawing system sucks a ss. In Wyoming a certain percentage of tags go to guys that have max points then the rest get put in a drawing for everyone else. I think that is much better, same gripe I've had for many years. Yup it's that time of year to hear me b itch again, sorry guys.

[trophyhunt]

The report is hard to find, could one of you guys put the link on this page to make it easier for boneheads like me?? And just to let guys know how to look up the number of guys with how many points they had, you have to click on the small print at the bottom of the page of each species your looking at. I believe it says something about pdf file, it's pretty interesting to see how many guys have the same amount of points as yourself.

[d_wilson]

Just looked at those.  Now I'm depressed.

[bobcat]

Looks like they got the deer and elk special permit reports fixed. All the data now makes sense. I've got some studying to do now.

[Fireant11]

Elk special permits is worthless!  They lump all the weapons types together.  Can't tell how archery did by themselves, muzzy or firearm.