2nd deer Permit

[D-Rock425]

This sounds like when my brother told me how much money I am wasting to fish Alaska. I bring back 200lbs of fillet salmon and Halibut. Price, 3000$ for two people. The memories I have from doing it, priceless. If you're a hunter and enjoying doing it. Then you're not going to bitch and complain about it. Yes, we're spending lots of money to hunt Washington. But you don't have to do it. If this is your only other complaint besides gas prices when you wake up. Feel very fortunate........

[doyourtime89]

It's over 100 after you put in an average of five years just like the regs say average points used.  By then with inflation a second deer tag will be 140.  Plus the five years you put in.  Then everything one needs to go hunt.  That 70 dollar deer just cost you 350 +.  Do you think it's a guarantee draw?  Not by any means.  The lowest average point for any blacktail unit for second deer is 4.  Besides the islands that are kind of for residents out there.  A blackie doe isn't worth 350 to me.  If I go east for a big muley you can add a few hundred more on it.  So what I did was take my money elsewhere.  Theres other stores to shop from.  Their products are better.

Don't put in then.

 

[Special T]

I do think its kinda amazing that they are getting $30 more for a 2nd doe tag than the original deer tag that you buy for $40.....

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

It's over 100 after you put in an average of five years just like the regs say average points used.  By then with inflation a second deer tag will be 140.  Plus the five years you put in.  Then everything one needs to go hunt.  That 70 dollar deer just cost you 350 +.  Do you think it's a guarantee draw?  Not by any means.  The lowest average point for any blacktail unit for second deer is 4.  Besides the islands that are kind of for residents out there.  A blackie doe isn't worth 350 to me.  If I go east for a big muley you can add a few hundred more on it.  So what I did was take my money elsewhere.  Theres other stores to shop from.  Their products are better.

Don't put in then.

I didn't.  But I did spend 69.00 on apps for every other hunt.  It's easy to say don't put in.  You have no argument about the price.  So idaho would only cost me 450 + expenses.  Let's say I go with a friend.  Another 350 for fuel and I'm there!  This state is a scam for hunting we all know it.  Some just won't accept it.  The price is not the problem its the quality of game.  The amount of access.  The numbers afield are crazy.  As mentioned before.  But the rich man moves to wy while we pay what we have to to do what we love.  I'll gladly pay idaho non res price for their quality of hunting.  At this rate of inflation on tags my son won't be able to afford to hunt.  I won't watch that happen.  All you that say its ok we owe it to them and all that BS need to consider what your family will be paying to hunt in the near future.  Or if they'll be paying at all or hunting at all.  Hunting has become a lotto for the department.  We don't owe them. 

[steen]

If I can hunt a doe during my regular season in the unit I am hunting in, yeah that!  It is better than the doe hunt options, Island deer or travel all the way to eastern wa just for a doe.  Extra gas for a special trip/ferry or shoot one in the unit you are hunting a buck, duh!

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

If I can hunt a doe during my regular season in the unit I am hunting in, yeah that!  It is better than the doe hunt options, Island deer or travel all the way to eastern wa just for a doe.  Extra gas for a special trip/ferry or shoot one in the unit you are hunting a buck, duh!

What unit is that?  All west blackie units are about a five year wait.  So in five years yeah for 350 + yeah doe/buck hunt it is.  Have fun with that.

[wannahunt]

I did put in but I didn't notice the price going up till afterwards. i will have to think about it next year before I decide to put in again. I can go to Wyoming as a non resident and buy two does tags for 34 bucks each. no draw. 100 percent chance of getting tags. put together a group that can share gas and its a better deal when you add up the fact that you have to put in for several years to get drawn here in Wa.   

[Chesapeake]

I don't think the "average points to draw" means anything at this point. We all came into these categories with whatever deer points we had. So I have 10 points for second deer and doe. So if I put in and draw one it will take all my points and make the average look screwed high even if the tag is 100% draw.. I believe it will take a few years for the system to work itself out. Besides with washingtons bonus point system "average points to draw" means squat. Guys with 22 points don't draw and guys with 3 points do for the same tag. You can look and see how many points drew each tag.

As far as the price. Your going to pay for entertainment one way or another. Might just as well have that entertainment be hunting.

[Blacktail Sniper]

I am willing but not putting in for it.  If there was a second deer hunt available in one of my hunting areas I would.  Not gonna go learn a new area for a doe.

I put in for a 2nd deer tag for just that reason.  Just moved to Yelm, and will be trying to learn a new area this year anyway, so I figured the added chance of tipping over an extra doe if I draw was worth the extra, besides...can't have too much sausage, can you    ?

[Glockster]

I am putting in for deer #2 because I am already paying to hunt a private ranch in the palouse so if drawn it makes a 'sure thing'.   Since I'm already spending alot, a marginal $60 or so is nothing.

However, it comes at the state's expense of me not contributing $500 to the economy hunting eastern Wa mod fire elk, and they will kill the other $400 or so i used to spend annually on saltwater fishing and crabbing in this state. 

That $900 plus gas and loding $ will go to Montana this fall. 

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

I did the same.  It's gonna be hard not to fish I'll probably still crab it's to good.  But I'll take the thousands I would have spent fishing and go to Idaho next year wy and I'll continue to take my money else where.  I wonder how long it takes to get it through there heads.  The money will talk when they see the loss in revenue directly to them and the lose of revenue our states economy is about to lose from other expenses related to hunting millions of dollars will go to other states.     

[Bob33]

I believe the 200%+ increase in price will result if fewer successful applicants actually buying the extra tag.  They will draw, and then decide not to pay the extra $68 to get it which means the permit will be wasted.  One more unintended consequence of these types of changes.

[Glockster]

Unfortunately they will never care about all the money they're driving out of WA unless their jobs are on the line. 

[MtnMuley]

I believe the 200%+ increase in price will result if fewer successful applicants actually buying the extra tag.  They will draw, and then decide not to pay the extra $68 to get it which means the permit will be wasted.  One more unintended consequence of these types of changes.

   The second antlerless deer tags used to be a lot of fun with friends filling the freezers on local ranchers deer herds.  Those fun days are over, because none of us are going to spend the fees to apply, and if successful, pay for the second tag.  Over $70 for a second doe tag in your home state is borderline retarded.  A 200+% increase?  Pathetic............WDFW at its finest.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

I didn't know it was 200% holy hel!  It makes the "if you don't like it don't buy it" guys look extra stuuupid .  They must be rich!