Author Topic: Oregon wolf found dead (Read 25373 times)

Broken Arrow · « **on:** May 04, 2012, 08:49:50 AM »

PENDLETON, Ore. (AP) -- Wildlife experts say they believe the carcass of an animal found dead in northeastern Oregon is a wolf killed illegally.

The Oregon State Police say the animal was found in mid-March near Cove, east of La Grande on the flanks of the Wallowa Mountains. It had been dead a week.

The East Oregonian reports that tests were done at an Idaho state forensics laboratory. Oregon officials haven't disclosed the cause of death.

The state police say the state Endangered Species Act protects wolves in all parts of Oregon: They can't be killed except in the defense of human life or with a special permit. They are protected by federal law in western Oregon.

Information from: East Oregonian, http://www.eastoregonian.info

fishinmike · « **Reply #1 on:** May 04, 2012, 08:55:24 AM »

Here I will now shed a tear.

huntnphool · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04, 2012, 08:57:13 AM »

Quote from: Broken Arrow on May 04, 2012, 08:49:50 AM

PENDLETON, Ore. (AP) -- Wildlife experts say they believe the carcass of an animal found dead in northeastern Oregon is a wolf killed illegally.
They can't be killed except in the defense of human life

How do they know it wasn't?

Woodchuck · « **Reply #3 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:00:38 AM »

Pathfinder101 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:04:32 AM »

...sounds like a suicide to me....

jeepasaurusrex · « **Reply #5 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:08:14 AM »

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Wildlife experts say they believe the carcass of an animal found dead in northeastern Oregon is a wolf killed illegally.

Sounds to me like they have already made up their mind and are trying to pin it on someone.

PlateauNDN · « **Reply #6 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:08:40 AM »

Quote from: Pathfinder101 on May 04, 2012, 09:04:32 AM

...sounds like a suicide to me....

Maybe he was frustrated because he got kicked out of pack, couldn't find his own mate, couldn't catch his own food and just finally gave up and took the easy way out?!?!?!

pianoman9701 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:12:45 AM »

He may have been suffering from head trauma and shot himself. Too early?

Broken Arrow · « **Reply #8 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:15:38 AM »

yeah a bit early! Only cause I liked that guy.

mrmoskillz · « **Reply #9 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:24:38 AM »

I hope the say what was in its stomach...a few pets, fawns?

Special T · « **Reply #10 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:47:13 AM »

I would guess that they have some info that it was shot, but that is a LONG way from proving anything... Just remeber it is MUCH harder to disprove an assumption when there isn't much evidence. So if the Feds say its a murder then if you speak against it you must have some info they need.

Broken Arrow · « **Reply #11 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:51:48 AM »

Found a better story with more details.......

Animal found dead near Cove could be a wolf

Written by Katy Nesbitt, The Observer May 03, 2012 12:57 pm

Necropsy reveals death was result of ‘criminal act’; genetic testing under way to determine if animal was a wolf

Authorities are still not sure whether a wolf or another kind of animal died in a Cove area pasture in March, but they say it was killed by a person and they aren’t saying how.

Genetic tests to confirm if the animal was a wolf have not been completed, authorities said Wednesday.

Kris Davis, a senior trooper with Oregon State Police Fish and Wildlife, received a call March 16 about a dead animal on private property about six miles north of Cove.

Davis and Sgt. Isaac Cyr took the 97-pound animal to a veterinarian for X-rays. The initial examination didn’t confirm a cause of death, authorities said.

A necropsy completed in Idaho confirmed the death was the result of “a criminal act” about a week before it was found. The specific cause has not been released.

Bruce Eddy, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Northeast Oregon region manager, said the X-rays did not find an intact bullet, but there were potentially lead fragments.

Wolf sightings and tracks are not uncommon in the Cove area and biologists frequently receive reports of wolf activity. They documented a single set of wolf tracks Jan. 31 and in October 2011.

Since district biologists documented the tracks in January, they have conducted track surveys on snowmobiles covering more than 120 miles, said Eddy. The agency also installed remote cameras in the area, but no additional sign of wolves were found.

Sharon Beck, a Cove rancher, is Fish and Wildlife’s contact on wolf activity in the Grande Ronde Valley. She said on Feb. 14, close to where the dead animal was found, there was a sighting of what looked like a wolf crossing the road early in the morning.

“It had a wide face and a long tail and was packing something in its mouth,” said Beck.

Fish and Wildlife staff investigated, but found no tracks on the frozen ground. Beck said other reports of two “big coyotes” were also made in the same area. Beck said there had been reports in the valley between Cove and Elgin of three sets of tracks found together, indicating that ranchers need to be on the lookout for continued sightings.

Wolves are protected by the state Endangered Species Act throughout Oregon.

Except in the defense of human life or with a special permit, it is unlawful to kill a wolf.

Doing so is a Class A misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine up to $6,250.

If the animal is a dog/wolf hybrid, the killing of it is not necessarily a criminal act.

On private property, shooting a dog that is threatening a human or chasing livestock is legal in the state of Oregon.

Anyone with information regarding this investigation is asked to contact Davis at 541-963-7175, ext. 4673 or email kris.davis@state.or.us.

pianoman9701 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:09:39 AM »

'...She said on Feb. 14, close to where the dead animal was found, there was a sighting of what looked like a wolf crossing the road early in the morning.

“It had a wide face and a long tail and was packing something in its mouth,” said Beck.'

She is also reported to say that it was really hard to identify because she observed it through a measly 3x scope at the time.

Poor doggy!

Capt Morgan · « **Reply #13 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:36:05 AM »

Thats a sad stort. The cute puppy is dead.

PlateauNDN · « **Reply #14 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:48:14 AM »

I like the second story better.

Quote from: Capt Morgan on May 04, 2012, 10:36:05 AM

Thats a sad stort. The cute puppy is dead.

Huntboy · « **Reply #15 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:06:27 AM »

The poor wolf.

mkcj · « **Reply #16 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:06:37 AM »

I'm going to say a big coyote, gut shot with a FMJ.

Curly · « **Reply #17 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:18:35 AM »

Sounds like a lot of time and money spent investigating. They ought to just forget it and do something useful.

KNOPHISH · « **Reply #18 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:20:20 AM »

Someone forgot the shovel

Curly · « **Reply #19 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:24:36 AM »

Quote from: KNOPHISH on May 04, 2012, 11:20:20 AM

Someone forgot the shovel

Yeah, but if they were successful in the other 2 S's then they should be alright.

Sporting_Man · « **Reply #20 on:** May 04, 2012, 01:39:34 PM »

Quote from: Pathfinder101 on May 04, 2012, 09:04:32 AM

...sounds like a suicide to me....

LOL

seth30 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 04, 2012, 02:13:34 PM »

Quote from: Curly on May 04, 2012, 11:18:35 AM

Sounds like a lot of time and money spent investigating. They ought to just forget it and do something useful.

Yep they could have taken those thousands of dollars and put the money into a soup kitchen or shelter for the homeless. I would rather have the money to by more beds for the rising homeless population in Portland, or to pay the cattle ranchers that have lost livestock to the wolves.

BullMagnet76 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:35:15 PM »

Quote from: fishinmike on May 04, 2012, 08:55:24 AM

Here I will now shed a tear.

splitshot · « **Reply #23 on:** May 04, 2012, 09:43:03 PM »

we do not need wolves in washington! we have enough problems with poachers,cougars, bears, etc. mike w

KopperBuck · « **Reply #24 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:18:05 AM »

And on this specific incident, I'm concerned about the circumstances, unless OR is just dragging their feet. Given that it was found on private property and reported, I'm assuming the landowner - nor the individuals that found it - were the ones that killed it. Basically that the act of killing it didn't happen on the property. Again, just a guess from what's been reported. And considering the time it took for the legality of death to be determined, it sounds like it wasn't a gun shot (again, a guess). My first thought went straight to poisoning. If this is the case, and man I hope it isn't, I hope they catch the son of a b*tch. I cannot stand the thought of that - poison is equal opportunity and you cannot guarantee a target.

TheHunt · « **Reply #25 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:23:38 AM »

Human's are the top predators in the food chain. I have been sending emails to my representatives to limit the number of wolves to four breading pairs. If they drop those numbers the top predator can hunt them and control them.

I have a feeling the Oregon wolf kill was shot from a distance and the shooter left.

Does anyone know what the process is for a rancher to get his money for a wolf kill? I know the Fish and Game department of the past made it really difficult in the past for the rancher.

KopperBuck · « **Reply #26 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:26:19 AM »

Umatilla Co just received money to help mitigate loss - that said I'm not sure that it will make it any easier, but it seems they're being a little more proactive with the issue. I hope anyways.

TheHunt · « **Reply #27 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:32:56 AM »

I am wondering what the evidence has to be for the different states? Paw print, bite marks, etc... I know of one rancher in Montana that gets to deal with the wolves at will now. He purchsed two long range rifles for that reason and was able to take those two rifles as deductions off his taxes because they were deemed required tools for his ranch.

Got to love that.

KopperBuck · « **Reply #28 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:40:13 AM »

Quote from: TheHunt on May 05, 2012, 08:32:56 AM

I am wondering what the evidence has to be for the different states? Paw print, bite marks, etc... I know of one rancher in Montana that gets to deal with the wolves at will now. He purchsed two long range rifles for that reason and was able to take those two rifles as deductions off his taxes because they were deemed required tools for his ranch.

Got to love that.

I'm not sure but that definitely is awesome.

Special T · « **Reply #29 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:50:53 AM »

KB, I understand your frustration... There is a poison that will only affect carnies.. Wolves Coyotes.... And dogs.

Without liberal trapping and the fire on sight season like we have for coyotes i would assume that we will be dealing with wolves for a long time. There was a reason that poison was used the first go around, it was effective... I think if the Feds and or our state took a little different role in this wolf issue many people may not feel the need to t take matters into their own hands.

TheHunt · « **Reply #30 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:51:26 AM »

He does not say one word about shooting wolves. But his has taken some coyotes out to 950 yards.

He said it took him lots, and lots, and lots of shots to get the wind doping down after he read a book about it and purchased a couple of videos on how to dope the wind and watching them over, and over, and over again. He is trying to schedule a class in long range shooting in Wyoming and write that off his taxes under company training.

TheHunt · « **Reply #31 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:53:39 AM »

Quote from: Special T on May 05, 2012, 08:50:53 AM

KB, I understand your frustration... There is a poison that will only affect carnies.. Wolves Coyotes.... And dogs. Without liberal trapping and the fire on sight season like we have for coyotes i would assume that we will be dealing with wolves for a long time. There was a reason that poison was used the first go around, it was effective... I think if the Feds and or our state took a little different role in this wolf issue many people may not feel the need to t take matters into their own hands.

I would agree that many people think they need to take matters into their own hands.

Do you know more about the poison that is only targeted towards carnies?

Special T · « **Reply #32 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:00:49 AM »

Yes it is a sugar substitute that is available on the open market. It affects canines as if they ate Antifreeze. We eat it as a low-no calorie sweetener.

Curly · « **Reply #33 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:25:52 AM »

Quote from: KopperBuck on May 05, 2012, 08:18:05 AM

, it sounds like it wasn't a gun shot (again, a guess). My first thought went straight to poisoning.

I got the impression that it was a gunshot but they didn't find a bullet to be of used for forensics.

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he initial examination didn’t confirm a cause of death, authorities said.

A necropsy completed in Idaho confirmed the death was the result of “a criminal act” about a week before it was found. The specific cause has not been released.

Bruce Eddy, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Northeast Oregon region manager, said the X-rays did not find an intact bullet, but there were potentially lead fragments.

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:16:47 PM »

I hope they find them all dead

Curly · « **Reply #35 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:17:50 PM »

Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on May 05, 2012, 03:16:47 PM

I hope they find them all dead

Wouldn't that be sweet!

dreamingbig · « **Reply #36 on:** May 05, 2012, 03:46:08 PM »

SSS

bow-n-head · « **Reply #37 on:** May 05, 2012, 04:55:58 PM »

Was probably Red Riding Hood

JCKILLSHOT · « **Reply #38 on:** May 05, 2012, 05:34:29 PM »

Good they don't belong in this part of the country. should have thought what was going to happen to our wildlife before the government and the hippies just started letting them go!!!

ICEMAN · « **Reply #39 on:** May 05, 2012, 07:49:22 PM »

How is a dead carcass considered so by "criminal" means? Can I shoot a wolf in self defense? To call this a criminal act is a bit premature and speaks to their bias.

TheHunt · « **Reply #40 on:** May 05, 2012, 10:38:20 PM »

I agree the wolf does not belong in this country. Who cares if they die.

Treat it like Seattle cops looking away at people breaking windows, smoking pot, *censored*ting in the streets.

villageidiot · « **Reply #41 on:** May 09, 2012, 10:34:17 PM »

Guard dogs are only good to inform the shepard of trouble. Wolves eat dogs! Guard dogs don't work with cattle because they are spread all over creation. The Forest Service requires the leasee to disperse the cattle and do not want them bunched up to prevent overgrazing and abuse to the environment. If you do not keep them dispursed, you will lose your permit. Guard dogs work fairly well with sheep, especially in Ireland where there are few trees. This ain't Ireland.

hogsniper · « **Reply #42 on:** May 15, 2012, 08:12:18 PM »

So back on topic of an Oregon wolf being shot.....I personally am suprised more havent been killed here in the NE with how many problems we have had in the last 2 years.

shedcrazy · « **Reply #43 on:** May 15, 2012, 08:22:38 PM »

Quote from: hogsniper on May 15, 2012, 08:12:18 PM

So back on topic of an Oregon wolf being shot.....I personally am suprised more havent been killed here in the NE with how many problems we have had in the last 2 years.

What's up Hog, haven't seen ya in awhile

hogsniper · « **Reply #44 on:** May 15, 2012, 09:51:13 PM »

Hey Shed, how goes it man? I have been picking up a few sheds and just living the Oregon dream down here! You find anything good this year?

shedcrazy · « **Reply #45 on:** May 16, 2012, 11:17:06 AM »

Not much here either, found a few nice ones this year. (Not like last year)

hogsniper · « **Reply #46 on:** May 16, 2012, 11:24:13 AM »

Yea i hear ya shed, the weird winter screwed us down here. I have found some really cool horns but not near the numbers like last year. You guys killed all the big bucks last year no wonder you didnt find anything up your way....LOL

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