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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #90 on: May 09, 2012, 12:13:34 PM »
It is the Commission members that I have no confidence in but that isn't one of the choices.

Well, this commission takes its cues from staff. 

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #91 on: May 09, 2012, 02:37:19 PM »
Dave, I would love to hear your take as to why hunters get screwed over in comparision to fishing... I think The fishing side has problems but are better represeted by the WFDW... Am i not seing the whole picture?
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #92 on: May 09, 2012, 02:46:22 PM »
Dave, I would love to hear your take as to why hunters get screwed over in comparision to fishing... I think The fishing side has problems but are better represeted by the WFDW... Am i not seing the whole picture?

Part of the reason the fishermen are so well represented is because of Salmon and Steelhead recovery.  It started years ago, and many passionate people that loved to fish for those two species banded together like no others.  Did not matter if you fished with spinning rods, casting rods, fly rods, spey rods, float rods. 

So you had a very intense and UNITED group of sportsman, the commercial guys and the Indians.   

Other than that, Sturgeon fishing has declined but in my opinion, that had to be done to protect the species from disappearing completely. 

And no one is really gonna go after the trout and bass fisherman anyway....  unless there is a non native wolf like fish we can introduce to our state and let it roam free as a bird till we get at least 4 breeding pairs in every lake over 2 acres.....   :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #93 on: May 10, 2012, 04:50:29 AM »
Gents:

Say it ain't so!

You people aren't finished voting on this, are you????
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2012, 06:22:13 AM »
I have confidence in the director and no confidence in the Commission. Hoping for a Governor that will clean house on the Commission.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2012, 07:29:42 AM »
I'm sure that the director does a better job with the fishing side than the Hunting side since he came from the sport fishing side... I wish we knew more about his hunting...
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2012, 08:03:09 AM »
I'm sure that the director does a better job with the fishing side than the Hunting side since he came from the sport fishing side... I wish we knew more about his hunting...

While he is a bit better on the fishing side than the previous version, he is a far cry from what is needed to stand up for our side when it comes to negotiating salmon seasons with the tribes.  Exhibit A:  Elliot Bay , Exhibit B Tulalip bubble fishery.  The recreational fishing contribution to the state's economy and the sportfishing industry are much bigger $'s than hunting, so it gets a bit more attention but not much more but I wouldn't consider it far better in terms of representation.  All the salmon revovery money got eaten up with stupid plant a tree upside down projects (see them along the Duwamish) and revive a ditch feel good school kid stuff.   

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #97 on: May 10, 2012, 08:16:04 AM »
I think our current director is the best we have had in a few decades, however, I still have limited faith in the WDFW and the commission. At this point I would agree that we need a house cleaning in both, the commission should be composed of equal numbers of avid hunters and fishermen, you don't hunt or fish, you don't belong on the commission. Many of the commissioners and WDFW managers and bio's should be replaced if they do not fully support hunting and fishing.

Specifically, any paid lobbyinst/employee (Kehne) should not be allowed to sit on the commission. That should be against state law.
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #98 on: May 10, 2012, 08:41:39 AM »
I think our current director is the best we have had in a few decades, however, I still have limited faith in the WDFW and the commission. At this point I would agree that we need a house cleaning in both, the commission should be composed of equal numbers of avid hunters and fishermen, you don't hunt or fish, you don't belong on the commission. Many of the commissioners and WDFW managers and bio's should be replaced if they do not fully support hunting and fishing.

Specifically, any paid lobbyinst/employee (Kehne) should not be allowed to sit on the commission. That should be against state law.

It is a direct Conflict of Interest to say the least......  and as such Kehne should be excused from any conversations about wolves...
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2012, 12:02:35 PM »
I think our current director is the best we have had in a few decades, however, I still have limited faith in the WDFW and the commission. At this point I would agree that we need a house cleaning in both, the commission should be composed of equal numbers of avid hunters and fishermen, you don't hunt or fish, you don't belong on the commission. Many of the commissioners and WDFW managers and bio's should be replaced if they do not fully support hunting and fishing.

Specifically, any paid lobbyinst/employee (Kehne) should not be allowed to sit on the commission. That should be against state law.

I dunno. There was one guy back in the 1990s.... Bern Shanks.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2012, 12:19:42 PM »
You might be right Dave and it may have been more accurate to say "Not as bad as most other directors we have had in the last few decades."  :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2012, 02:42:39 PM »
While the poll is not scientific, the fact that the WDFW cannot even garner a full 10% support from a group as frequently divided as this one says a great deal.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2012, 03:51:07 PM »
And that percentage just got worse!!

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2012, 09:31:46 AM »
And that percentage just got worse!!

Yes, it did.

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Re: WDFW Poll
« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2012, 10:09:28 AM »
Hopefully as many people will vote on this poll as have voted on the Bigfoot poll.  8)
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