backpacking sleepbag

[fillthefreezer]

Maybe I can try a little less anal protecting

maybe you should change who you hunt with
 

[fair-chase]

Poor choice of words...

[RadSav]

I think fillthefreezer has a future as an editor with CBS news.

[fillthefreezer]

is called selective interpretation reporting. its what i majored in at UBS

[fillthefreezer]

The best bag liner is a layer of the heaviest long-johns you have

Someone once said, If you don't wear all your clothes to bed you brought to many.

Don't know about that but I've camped above 5000 feet in a lot of winter storms.  My very roomy -5 bag was almost always enough if not then I have a Down jacket and pants (the down LJ's from Cabela's)  With lighter bags on summer trips I just pack a layer of Expedition weight LJ's   I've never found myself wishing I had a bag liner too.

I've been wanting some sort of down or primaloft pant, to go under or over or w/o my ascent pants for sleeping in super cold or glassing. what exactly are you using?

[RadSav]

Sitka's Kelvin pants and vest are fantastic!  Super light, super warm and very comfortable.  I think they just might be the best thing Sitka makes.  You won't get them under your Ascent pants too easy, but they fit over them nice.  I wear them as PJ's around the house all winter.  Most comfortable things I own.

[MikeWalking]

The best bag liner is a layer of the heaviest long-johns you have

Someone once said, If you don't wear all your clothes to bed you brought to many.

Don't know about that but I've camped above 5000 feet in a lot of winter storms.  My very roomy -5 bag was almost always enough if not then I have a Down jacket and pants (the down LJ's from Cabela's)  With lighter bags on summer trips I just pack a layer of Expedition weight LJ's   I've never found myself wishing I had a bag liner too.

I've been wanting some sort of down or primaloft pant, to go under or over or w/o my ascent pants for sleeping in super cold or glassing. what exactly are you using?

  I just spent 15 minutes on the Cabela's web site and I can't find what I have..discontinued...??   The pants were pretty simple sewn through low cost down with a button fly, no zipper...the jacket (I passed on) was the same button up only thumb cuff...

[fillthefreezer]

Sitka's Kelvin pants and vest are fantastic!  Super light, super warm and very comfortable.  I think they just might be the best thing Sitka makes.  You won't get them under your Ascent pants too easy, but they fit over them nice.  I wear them as PJ's around the house all winter.  Most comfortable things I own.

ive been looking alot at those kelvin pants but theyre $$$, and at 24oz i wsh they made a "light"

I just spent 15 minutes on the Cabela's web site and I can't find what I have..discontinued...??   The pants were pretty simple sewn through low cost down with a button fly, no zipper...the jacket (I passed on) was the same button up only thumb cuff...

damn, those sounded like a sweet deal

[RadSav]

Kelvin Lite's just came available this month.

[fillthefreezer]

ive seen the kelvinlite jackets, theyve got lite pants? where and how much?

[BigTines]

Hey guys, anybody have an input on the kelty cosmic down 20 vs 0? I will be hunting sept to nov. in kinda a cold sleeper but don't wanna pack extra weight if I don't have to. How cold does this thing actually sleep to? Thanks!

[MikeWalking]

Hey guys, anybody have an input on the kelty cosmic down 20 vs 0? I will be hunting sept to nov. in kinda a cold sleeper but don't wanna pack extra weight if I don't have to. How cold does this thing actually sleep to? Thanks!

   I carried a 20degree Kelty years back.  I took a whole summer off, June to October and used it early on.  I sold it after two trips up to Skyline Lake, 5200elev.  I had to wear too much to stay warm, in June...

[RadSav]

Hey guys, anybody have an input on the kelty cosmic down 20 vs 0? I will be hunting sept to nov. in kinda a cold sleeper but don't wanna pack extra weight if I don't have to. How cold does this thing actually sleep to? Thanks!

Great price on that bag, but it is as mentioned before I think it's 550 down. I have not seen the zero bag in that model so can't say much about it.  Not sure where the comfort rating is on that bag, but I'm guessing the 20 is going to be around the 40 degree mark. With a pad!  If going into November I'd surely take the extra weight of the zero bag.  700 Dri-Down is getting more popular and prices are now starting to drop.  I've had it for a while now in a Sierra Designs 20 bag.  Way more comfortable than the older 550 or even std 700.  If memory serves the 20 Dri-Down bag has a comfort rating of 34 with pad.  Probably 50 or 55 degrees if using without a good pad.

[BigTines]

Currently I would be using it with a big agnes insulated air core pad. The problem is, I only have around $120-150 for a bag, and I know there isn't much in that range. I think maybe the kelty 0 will have to do even though it is a bit heavier. I was also looking at the marmot trestles but its much heavier than the kelty.

Anybody else with input is greatly appreciated.

[MikeWalking]

Currently I would be using it with a big agnes insulated air core pad. The problem is, I only have around $120-150 for a bag, and I know there isn't much in that range. I think maybe the kelty 0 will have to do even though it is a bit heavier. I was also looking at the marmot trestles but its much heavier than the kelty.

Anybody else with input is greatly appreciated.

Second Ascent in Fremont/Seattle has a lot of good gear cheap (if they're still there. Been a lot of years since I was there)  I'd hit the Thrift shops too.  Sierra Designs offers steep discounts.  Factory seconds etc.