collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Nosler Versus  (Read 21536 times)

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 04:45:36 PM »
yah i hear you but i am looking for better results and looking for something on paper that proves it......proves the performance differances that is......

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 04:45:58 PM »
The silvertip is a ballistic tip with a black coating and a fancy name. No other difference that I'm aware of. The accubond, as you can tell from the name, is a bonded bullet, made to stay together. So if you want to go with Nosler and you want a bullet that you can use on deer, elk, bear, etc and at any reasonable distance and angle, then go with the Accubond. Or, try the new e-tip. It's 100% copper. That's the next bullet on my list to try. I want to try the 150's in my 30-06.

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 04:49:32 PM »
Here, you can read all about all the Nosler bullets here:

http://www.nosler.com/?p=3

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 04:50:02 PM »
e-tip looks good but it only comes in 130 grain for 270.......

what are your thoughts about the fragmenting of the silvertip?

do all ballistic tips fragment?

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008, 04:53:25 PM »
Yes, the silvertip and ballistic tips will come apart, especially at shorter ranges when your velocity is higher, and/or when you hit bone. They are not bonded like the Accubond. The Accubond is for people who want a bullet that doesn't come apart. The e-tips should be even better in that regard as they are all copper. The 130 grain weight is plenty of bullet in the e-tip because it will stay together, unlike the Partition, and other conventional bullets.

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2008, 04:54:37 PM »
Accubond will stay together, Ballistic Tip won't.
whats the benefit of this? different price?

and the e-tip says it keeps 95% weight for inproved penetration?

what does that mean?

is it going to have as much stopping force as a 150 grain that only keeps 65% of its weight?

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2008, 04:56:08 PM »
sorry for all the stupid questions.......but thanks for answering them, and i was on that website as you posted it, and midway, and cabelas, and google all at once.....

imtaking in alot of info..........lol...........

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2008, 04:58:37 PM »
The benefit is improved penetration, just as Nosler says about the e-tip. The better the bullet, the more it costs. You get what you pay for.

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2008, 05:01:56 PM »
that really doesnt answer my question......

so the e tip weighing 130 grains is going to penetrate farther in my elk, deer, or bear, possably go threw it.....

But a 150 grain ballistic is going to hit my animal like a huge bat and go a long way threw it, but knock it on its but and do more damage on the inside......

Is this correct or no? i dont really understand the whole weight of the bullet thing.......

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2008, 05:07:04 PM »
Chances are a ballistic tip will make a bigger hole, yes. But the e-tip or Accubond is much more likely to go all the way through an animal, no matter what the angle. It all depends on what you want. A bigger hole and more meat ruined, and possibly a quicker kill, or do you want to have a dependable bullet that you can rely on, and that you don't have to pass up a shot because it's not standing broadside?

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2008, 05:08:40 PM »
Chances are a ballistic tip will make a bigger hole, yes. But the e-tip or Accubond is much more likely to go all the way through an animal, no matter what the angle. It all depends on what you want. A bigger hole and more meat ruined, and possibly a quicker kill, or do you want to have a dependable bullet that you can rely on, and that you don't have to pass up a shot because it's not standing broadside?

animals standing perfectly broadside or not has never stopped me from shooting it with a ballistic....but i want something better........

is the money really that different..........?

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2008, 05:16:29 PM »
OK...so if you want something better get the e-tip and no, the money isn't that different when you only need one bullet per animal.

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2008, 05:17:40 PM »
NICE I LIKE THAT...........

so 130 grains is going to shoot a elk the same at 300 yrds as a 150 grain bulet will?

Online bobcat

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+14)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 39192
  • Location: Rochester
    • robert68
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2008, 05:24:07 PM »
The 130 e-tip (or Accubond) is going to be more reliable on that 300 yard elk, than any of the cheap 150's you might use.

Offline Coasthunterjay

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2007
  • Posts: 1749
Re: Nosler Versus
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2008, 05:32:48 PM »
thanks for calling my stuff cheap.......... :chuckle:

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

VA Loan Closing Costs by pianoman9701
[Today at 10:20:51 AM]


Mason County Youth Buck Nov 1-16 by millerwheeler
[Today at 10:05:05 AM]


DR Brush Mower won't crank by Sandberm
[Today at 09:58:05 AM]


Sportsman Alliance files petition to Gov Ferguson for removal of corrupt WA Wildlife Commissioners by Skillet
[Today at 09:56:18 AM]


Swakane Ram by Timberstalker
[Today at 09:46:56 AM]


Selkirk bull moose. by vandeman17
[Today at 09:33:41 AM]


After a couple years of poor health,... by Skillet
[Today at 08:49:46 AM]


Colockum Archery Bull Tag by Gonehuntin01
[Today at 07:15:15 AM]


Drew Cleman Mountain Any Ram! by starbailey
[Today at 07:04:50 AM]


Anybody hunt with a 25 Creedmoor? by Threewolves
[Today at 05:58:47 AM]


2025 OILS! by oldschool
[Today at 05:33:29 AM]


September mule deer velvet by jstone
[Yesterday at 08:43:04 PM]


Jim Horn's elk calling, instructional audio CD's. by WapitiTalk1
[Yesterday at 07:40:33 PM]


Goose hunting with vice grips by Pegasus
[Yesterday at 04:51:23 PM]


Public Land Sale Senate Budget Reconciliation by GeoSwan
[Yesterday at 04:12:47 PM]


Back up camera by Blacklab
[Yesterday at 11:54:30 AM]


Drew Quality by hunter399
[Yesterday at 11:12:45 AM]


Youth Cow Tag by Sundance
[Yesterday at 10:55:51 AM]


Idaho 2025 Controlled Hunts by huntinluva
[Yesterday at 10:01:53 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal