one man's draw rant;Your story?

[NWBREW]

sell off a testicle and buy the gov tag.   Pretty cheap compared to the rest of the gov tags, and consider it a hunt of a lifetime.

What if you want to buy 3 gov. tags? 

It feels like when you finally get more then a dozen points.....it doesn't really matter how many points. Seems like we would be better off cashing them in and starting over. I wonder what the ratio is for those who draw with less then 10 compared to those with more then 10.

[Chesapeake]

Yep they messed the system up.

I used to draw cow elk tags every few years. Guys didnt have to compete with me for a bull tag. I havent been able to draw a cow tag since they changed it. Now I drew them guys Margaret bull tag with 5 points. I would have never been in that pool with the old system. I like elk meat too much to wait 15 years for a bull tag when there were cow tags to have.

You guys never had to compete with me for Whitetails either. I only put in for premier late season mule deer tags. This year the Okanogan late whitetail hunts were my buck choices 1,2, and 3. My #4 was Palouse and I drew it, taking a tag away from a guy that would have never had to compete with me and my points built up trying for a mule deer tag all these years.

The good news. I'm burning points, so you wont have to compete with my points. But I'll still put my name in the pot next year, just hoping to get lucky.

I liked the old system better for my draw strategy. I've had to change it up a little.

[BOWHUNTER45]

We all know this state is all about MONEY ...They could careless who drew what as long as they are putting your money in their pockets ...thats why I did not apply for sheet this year ...I will just enjoy myself on my regular tags ....as far as whitetail ...we already have good late season hunts open and if you want a whitetail then head N.E ....there is alot of area where a guy can kill some nice whitetail ..(IF) I was wanting to put in for a special draw it would be for Mule deer & elk ...no need to waste money on special whitetail tags when we have decent opportunity already ...

[NWBREW]

as far as whitetail ...we already have good late season hunts open and if you want a whitetail then head N.E ....there is alot of area where a guy can kill some nice whitetail  no need to waste money on special whitetail tags when we have decent opportunity already ...

Agreed 100% with that.

[kramman]

You guys are correct if i had been just going to the n.e i probably would have some whiteys on the wall. Once they went to the new draw system I also started applying for mule deer rut tags but with 10 tags and 1000 apps thought we would have better chance getting the w.t. tag.

here's a ? and maybe its been brought up has anyone drawn a quality tag and a buck tag in the same year losing pts. in both? can you give back a tag if that were to happen? Thought about this as i was applyin this yr. thinkin that would really suck to get drawn for both

[NRA4LIFE]

You annot just "give back" a tag and get your points back.  You would have to prove you were awarded the permit by error or have a documented illness/injury or a military deployment according to the regs.

And as far as permits go?  I would like to tell you my success story but I've never drawn any kind of permit in this state.  9 years running now.

[NWBREW]

here's a ? and maybe its been brought up has anyone drawn a quality tag and a buck tag in the same year losing pts. in both? can you give back a tag if that were to happen? 

Answer to question # 1 is yes.

Answer to question # 2 is NO or maybe yes....I am sure you can give it back but you won't get anything in return. 

[bigpaw 77]

I have 13 elk points and am getting frustrated with the point system. This year I went archery thinking that would help my odds with more tags givin out. Lick creek bull is always my first choice and I still can't draw, while guys with half my points draw a tag for that unit. Good for them, I do not get mad at them for drawing like some guys do. I blame the state, I would like to see it like it was years ago, if you wanted a lick creek bull tag then you put in for that unit only and you are only competing against those guys not the ones who get it on a second choice. Or do away with the point system all together because it does not help those with lots of points. I really hate the new catagory system. Good luck to those who drew tags this year.

[Chesapeake]

I dont know that it is a waste to put in for a whitetail tag. After all thats the only choice in the buck catagory and I had all the those points the WDFW gave me. Might as well use them.

[deadyote]

You are preaching to the choir here brother!!  I have 12 points and I finally got drawn for a doe tag this year.  The only time I have been drawn for something besides spring bear the first year I tried, 2008.  I was excited, but still surprises me that I couldn't get a doe tag or cow tag with as many points. 

[trophyhunt]

Yup it's me, trophyhunt and I'm here to complain!!! I know it's not surprising to most but with this thread I feel like I have permission to b itch. 16 points for all elk categories and 8 for deer, I have been ghost pointing the cow, bull and buck. But I've been putting in every year for quality elk and deer, you guys have already hit it on the head how the system blows and why it blows. My most disappointment this year was my 69 year old dad couldn't draw any of his tags, 12 points for archery elk when they give out 101 permits! He also has a bunch of points for disabled elk, moose and a few for 65 and over. Nothing for him, and he don't have much time left to hunt. Don't get me wrong and jump on my butt, no I don't think he or I deserve these tags more than you or anyone but there just has to be a better way.  I think quality tags should go to those with 10 or more points or 50% go to those with with max points and the other 50% open to anyone. I'm just glad I found Idaho years ago as far a elk hunting goes, over the counter and I don't have to wait to kill nice bulls. Good luck to us losers next year.....

[link]

It took me 15 points to draw a late season muley hunt this year. I don't go into the draws expecting to get drawn, not matter how many points I have. You would be disappointed more times than  not. Though, I have been drawn for a good elk tag a couple of times. One with around 8 points and a couple years later with 3. I drew a goat tag with just a couple of points in 2000. You'd be wasting your time and energy trying to figure out the system and how to calculate your actual odds of drawing. Just take it as it is, a total, random lottery. Good luck.

[Glockster]

I love watching guys get so wound up about the WA draws, loosing sleep; attempting to the calculate odds, salivating over backdoor results info...it's every bit as entertaining as watching a public boat launch on a hot summers day.   

Plus all these "preference" points I'm accumulating make me feel like a rich man. 

[Chesapeake]

I love watching guys get so wound up about the WA draws, loosing sleep; attempting to the calculate odds, salivating over backdoor results info...it's every bit as entertaining as watching a public boat launch on a hot summers day.   

Plus all these "preference" points I'm accumulating make me feel like a rich man.

Where did you get "preference" points? Maybe Wyoming?

Washington doesnt have "preference" points. We have "bonus" points. 

[Skyvalhunter]

We don't have Bonus points we have Ghost points because the points just seem to mean nothing and disappear come draw time.