Is There More To Yellowstone Wolf Attack Than Park Officials Are Admitting?

[Curly]

What is wrong with people???  Why so much love for the damn wolves that they will lie about events?    It is mind boggling how they want to protect the image of their beloved wolves.

[CAMPMEAT]

I wonder if the reporting person got their white socks tangled up in their Birkenstock sandals and couldn't run. Then they had to jump into the river after being chased for a MILE by the wolves, just to untangle their socks ? Sounds legit to me, I mean, come on....

[KFhunter]

When I reported a wolf attack on my neighbors dogs, I got an unpleasant call from Region 1 WDFW. 

 
eww did they know who you were and about your guide service?  I'd be very careful if I were in those shoes or you might find difficulties
 
Did they threaten you?

[bearpaw]

When I reported a wolf attack on my neighbors dogs, I got an unpleasant call from Region 1 WDFW. 

 
eww did they know who you were and about your guide service?  I'd be very careful if I were in those shoes or you might find difficulties
 
Did they threaten you?

No threats, the person who called me knows me by first name and was upset because I copied my message about the wolves to local legislators and numerous other people, I was then told by the caller that it was coyotes even though the incident wasn't fully investigated yet. I challenged that with the fact that the resident sees coyotes on his property regularly and knows exactly what coyotes look like, he said the wolves were as big as his german shepherds. I questioned why 5 adult coyotes would be traveling together in the summer, and I questioned why 25 pound coyotes would attack two 100 pound German Shepherds in a kennel in the back yard. Nontheless I am pretty sure WDFW put it down as probable coyote. Later last summer I had two more reports from local residents in the same general area of 5 adult wolves traveling together. I suppose those were only coyotes too. 

Wolf tracks were spotted within a few miles of the area this winter, but nobody has seen the wolves this summer yet, I don't know where those wolves are at now. They are different wolves than the smackout pack because those wolves were being seen at the same time last year.

I honestly do not think most people in WDFW realize what they are dealing with in these wolves. I think they have believed the disney-like propaganda they have been spoonfed by wolf groups and WDFW has ignored the real science from Alaska, Canada, and Idaho showing the impacts of wolves. If anyone doubts that, simply read our wolf plan, it is unrealistic. I predict that the same harsh realities that educated IDFG will educate WDFW.

-Wolves will multiply much faster than they thought possible
-Wildlife will disappear much faster than they thought possible
-Our moose herd will almost vanish
-Wolf attacks on livestock, pets, etc will increase rapidly
-The public will demand control
-If WDFW does not control wolves, then in time the public will rebel like they have in Idaho and take care of the problem, unfortunately there will be a lot of unnecessary losses to wildlife, livestock, pets, and possibly some unsuspecting human victim(s) if the wolf dillema has to evolve to this point.

Like it or not that is what has occurred in Idaho and will likely occur in Washington. Don't shoot me, I am only the messenger.

[bearpaw]

sorry for hijacking the topic....

[KFhunter]

It took me ahwile looking at that track to realize that was not a quarter, or silver dollar - but a copenhagen lid

[FALFire]

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-Wolves will multiply much faster than they thought possible
That's good, means more pelts when they are ready for the taking.

-Wildlife will disappear much faster than they thought possible
That's bad, means I'll just have to be sure to kill them on the spot.

-Wolf attacks on livestock, pets, etc will increase rapidly

That's good, maybe the ranchers will pay up too, more land to hunt.

-The public will demand control

That's good, then we won't have to listen to the wolf lovers bitchin'


-If WDFW does not control wolves, then in time the public will rebel like they have in Idaho and take care of the problem, unfortunately there will be a lot of unnecessary losses to wildlife, livestock, pets, and possibly some unsuspecting human victim(s) if the wolf dillema has to evolve to this point.

That's good, WDFW doesn't have the ability to handle the problem now, just wait till this thing explodes in their faces, wolf permits by the dozens!!

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[BOWHUNTER45]

Thats it Dale . They have one goal on their minds and it sure is not what we want ...they think everyone is an idiot and you can not tell them sheet ! Once these wolves take over the only way it will ever be addressed is by the people who do not want them and take it into their own hands ...I am seriously against the wolf thing ...do not care if they all die or get killed 

[bearpaw]

It took me ahwile looking at that track to realize that was not a quarter, or silver dollar - but a copenhagen lid

Yes, that's about a 5 inch track, right on Old Dominion Mountain a few miles from Colville.

[woodswalker]

No threats, the person who called me knows me by first name and was upset because I copied my message about the wolves to local legislators and numerous other people, I was then told by the caller that it was coyotes even though the incident wasn't fully investigated yet. I challenged that with the fact that the resident sees coyotes on his property regularly and knows exactly what coyotes look like, he said the wolves were as big as his german shepherds. I questioned why 5 adult coyotes would be traveling together in the summer, and I questioned why 25 pound coyotes would attack two 100 pound German Shepherds in a kennel in the back yard. Nontheless I am pretty sure WDFW put it down as probable coyote. Later last summer I had two more reports from local residents in the same general area of 5 adult wolves traveling together. I suppose those were only coyotes too. 

Dale, its open season on Coyotes.....     

[bearpaw]

No threats, the person who called me knows me by first name and was upset because I copied my message about the wolves to local legislators and numerous other people, I was then told by the caller that it was coyotes even though the incident wasn't fully investigated yet. I challenged that with the fact that the resident sees coyotes on his property regularly and knows exactly what coyotes look like, he said the wolves were as big as his german shepherds. I questioned why 5 adult coyotes would be traveling together in the summer, and I questioned why 25 pound coyotes would attack two 100 pound German Shepherds in a kennel in the back yard. Nontheless I am pretty sure WDFW put it down as probable coyote. Later last summer I had two more reports from local residents in the same general area of 5 adult wolves traveling together. I suppose those were only coyotes too. 

Dale, its open season on Coyotes.....     

It certainly makes a guy feel that way after the way WDFW has acted on this whole wolf issue by telling people it's only coyotes so many times. Fortunately we are now getting trail cam photos to prove the wolves are here. This has put pressure on WDFW to get to work on their end. Suddenly alas, we have wolf packs appearing that were not here only a few months ago. 

I am happy WDFW has at least hired a couple trappers. But, imagine how many wolf packs would be confirmed if we had a dozen trappers out there confirming wolves, there is proof of many other packs than the ones identified thus far. I think we would quickly confirm enough wolves to delist in Region 1 alone. 

[sebek556]

Dale what do you think would happen if one of us trappers accidentally caught a wolf in one of our traps and called them up?

[Special T]

If you can get a wolf in a cage trap...  you da man... I don't know of any boday that can get coyotes in the damn things.  Would be a great way to force the issue now wouldn't it.

[bearpaw]

Dale what do you think would happen if one of us trappers accidentally caught a wolf in one of our traps and called them up?

A friend caught a coyote in a cage trap this last winter. So, I think on rare occasion it could happen that a wolf is accidentally caught in a bobcat set. I think the proper thing to do is to call the WDFW, I imagine they would collar it and release it. I know a guy who caught a cougar years ago, he called WDFW and they came and helped release the cat.

This would be a good question for Outdoor Guardian.

[Feanix]

It would be the same as catching a lynx, wolverine, fisher, or any thing you don't think you can release safely ( like a cougar). Call them up and they would come out and release it. They would probably collar a wolf first, as Dale suggested.