Post by: CoryTDF on December 24, 2018, 11:10:37 AM
What do you think about the Tundra 5.7 V8 compared to the 2.7 or 3.5 EcoBoost V-6
INTENDED USES:
To and from work and daily driving
Towing 26ft Springdale Travel Trailer
Towing 16ft Boat
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 24, 2018, 11:17:12 AM
Post by: Jason on December 24, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 11:44:15 AM
Post by: elkaholic123 on December 24, 2018, 11:52:56 AM
Ford can be had with a crew cab and 6.5 foot bed of that makes a difference.:yeah:
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 11:54:07 AM
Post by: coop2424 on December 24, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 12:03:42 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
Post by: Jason on December 24, 2018, 12:55:12 PM
The biggest dealership service department around here is the Toyota dealer. :chuckle:Maybe there are more Toyotas being sold?
Post by: vandeman17 on December 24, 2018, 01:00:42 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 01:08:36 PM
The biggest dealership service department around here is the Toyota dealer. :chuckle:Maybe there are more Toyotas being sold?
Could be, but regardless the trucks are still going to the shop. Again, the only point I’m trying to make is that they all break or need repairs at one point or another.
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 01:08:59 PM
Tag. I have my choices narrowed down to these two as well. @jackelope what years had the issues for f150?
First 2-3 years.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 24, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 01:32:55 PM
Personally I say Tundra. Gas mileage sucks but very reliable. I have put 90k on mine and have not had to do a thing other than tires and brakes. I know of a new F150 that has been to the shop a couple times and less than 2 years old. :chuckle: I do like the longer bed in the Ford with crew cab. I also really really like the looks of the Fords.That was all the recalls and oil pan change. Hardly anything. To worry about. :chuckle: just things like the doors potentially flying open or the transmission not shifting. You know the small stuff.
My ford still Hasn’t lost any parts driving in the woods like Toyota guy. :yike:
It came down to the tundra and f150 for me. Longer bed and fuel mileage were the decision makers for me.
Post by: Jason on December 24, 2018, 01:34:29 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 01:34:34 PM
I love my tundra. It's been a great truck. With that said, I'd go f150 between the two options. Those little barbie beds are pointless for my uses and a crew can is a must with kids (my tundra is a quad cab :bash:). Let'snot even talk about comparing mileage :chuckle:
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
You were ok till you mentioned gmc. I’d drive a Prius before willfully choosing anything gm!
Post by: Jason on December 24, 2018, 01:35:49 PM
Did you say Prius? :yike:I love my tundra. It's been a great truck. With that said, I'd go f150 between the two options. Those little barbie beds are pointless for my uses and a crew can is a must with kids (my tundra is a quad cab :bash:). Let'snot even talk about comparing mileage :chuckle:
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
You were ok till you mentioned gmc. I’d drive a Prius before willfully choosing anything gm!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 01:37:03 PM
What’s the real world mileage with 3.5L EcoBoosts?I average 20. Average for my last trip to Colorado was 17 including 3 guys and a truck full of gear driving down at 85+ or in 4wd (snow and ice)and back. Also driving around the hunt area all week.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
That’s how much I despise anything gm made! Ya it was that bad.Did you say Prius? :yike:I love my tundra. It's been a great truck. With that said, I'd go f150 between the two options. Those little barbie beds are pointless for my uses and a crew can is a must with kids (my tundra is a quad cab :bash:). Let'snot even talk about comparing mileage :chuckle:
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
You were ok till you mentioned gmc. I’d drive a Prius before willfully choosing anything gm!
Post by: CoryTDF on December 24, 2018, 01:45:42 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 24, 2018, 01:46:28 PM
You already drive a prius :chuckle:That’s how much I despise anything gm made! Ya it was that bad.Did you say Prius? :yike:I love my tundra. It's been a great truck. With that said, I'd go f150 between the two options. Those little barbie beds are pointless for my uses and a crew can is a must with kids (my tundra is a quad cab :bash:). Let'snot even talk about comparing mileage :chuckle:
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
You were ok till you mentioned gmc. I’d drive a Prius before willfully choosing anything gm!
And Kayden cant be counted as full size :chuckle:
Post by: Whitpirate on December 24, 2018, 01:50:26 PM
I love my tundra. It's been a great truck. With that said, I'd go f150 between the two options. Those little barbie beds are pointless for my uses and a crew can is a must with kids (my tundra is a quad cab :bash:). Let'snot even talk about comparing mileage :chuckle:
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
You were ok till you mentioned gmc. I’d drive a Prius before willfully choosing anything gm!
But that's because you're not right in the head. Eco-fail..... Our GM"s haul your gangly-legs anyway.
Post by: Jason on December 24, 2018, 01:57:40 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 02:01:27 PM
Personally I say Tundra. Gas mileage sucks but very reliable. I have put 90k on mine and have not had to do a thing other than tires and brakes. I know of a new F150 that has been to the shop a couple times and less than 2 years old. :chuckle: I do like the longer bed in the Ford with crew cab. I also really really like the looks of the Fords.That was all the recalls and oil pan change. Hardly anything. To worry about. :chuckle: just things like the doors potentially flying open or the transmission not shifting. You know the small stuff.
My ford still Hasn’t lost any parts driving in the woods like Toyota guy. :yike:
It came down to the tundra and f150 for me. Longer bed and fuel mileage were the decision makers for me.
The doors don’t “fly open” as much as they just won’t close in the first place. Big difference.
:chuckle:
At least the frame doesn’t rust clear through.
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 02:02:44 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 02:03:00 PM
Just think positive, after the warranty runs out you will have two turbos that at some point one or both will need to be replaced. What are those going to cost? I do like the sounds of the longer bed though, but not enough to want to buy a ford.
I’ve replaced 2. In 6 years.
Edit to say by “I’ve” I mean my guys. Not me.
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 02:07:05 PM
Post by: Jason on December 24, 2018, 02:15:53 PM
Those 2 still under warranty?Just think positive, after the warranty runs out you will have two turbos that at some point one or both will need to be replaced. What are those going to cost? I do like the sounds of the longer bed though, but not enough to want to buy a ford.
I’ve replaced 2. In 6 years.
Edit to say by “I’ve” I mean my guys. Not me.
We all know it is good until the warranty runs out, then your waiting for something to go south..lol
Honestly I don’t think you can really go wrong with either truck. Steer clear of the dodge 1500’s. We have upgraded our older company trucks to the Dodges 1500 and all of ours have been in to the stealership for recalls more times than I can remember. I miss my old 07 Megacab with the 5.9.
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on December 24, 2018, 02:18:40 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 02:23:05 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 24, 2018, 02:24:06 PM
Nah that Prius is gone. On to Subaru’s now. :chuckle:You already drive a prius :chuckle:That’s how much I despise anything gm made! Ya it was that bad.Did you say Prius? :yike:I love my tundra. It's been a great truck. With that said, I'd go f150 between the two options. Those little barbie beds are pointless for my uses and a crew can is a must with kids (my tundra is a quad cab :bash:). Let'snot even talk about comparing mileage :chuckle:
After all that I'd get a GMC :chuckle:
You were ok till you mentioned gmc. I’d drive a Prius before willfully choosing anything gm!
And Kayden cant be counted as full size :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on December 24, 2018, 02:41:06 PM
Those 2 still under warranty?Just think positive, after the warranty runs out you will have two turbos that at some point one or both will need to be replaced. What are those going to cost? I do like the sounds of the longer bed though, but not enough to want to buy a ford.
I’ve replaced 2. In 6 years.
Edit to say by “I’ve” I mean my guys. Not me.
We all know it is good until the warranty runs out, then your waiting for something to go south..lol
Honestly I don’t think you can really go wrong with either truck. Steer clear of the dodge 1500’s. We have upgraded our older company trucks to the Dodges 1500 and all of ours have been in to the stealership for recalls more times than I can remember. I miss my old 07 Megacab with the 5.9.
Yes. They’ll fall under the 5yr/60k mile factory powertrain warranty.
And I agree with everything you’re saying.
We have replaced a couple of coolant pipes that go to the turbos. I think they’re not covered after 3/36 and not cheap. Some of the earlier 3.5 ecoboost are getting some miles on them now.
Post by: CoryTDF on December 24, 2018, 03:01:41 PM
I would not mind looking into another 2005 tundra but now that I am forced to look for a new truck i figured i should get one that is better suited to tow my trailer.
Post by: Bofire on December 24, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Carl
Post by: thinkingman on December 25, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
Post by: Jason on December 25, 2018, 06:37:42 PM
I’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.No frame or bed rust on any of my Toyota trucks that I have had. Been driving a Toyota truck since 1994. My last Tundra did have a recall out for potential frame rust. Took it into the stealership and it checked out with no issue. Imagine that no rust. There's a reason Toyota trucks have a great reputation for reliability and their resale value is as good as it gets. If they were junk then they woudn't be so highly regarded.
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
Post by: mtnwkr on December 25, 2018, 08:16:40 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 25, 2018, 08:49:04 PM
I’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.No frame or bed rust on any of my Toyota trucks that I have had. Been driving a Toyota truck since 1994. My last Tundra did have a recall out for potential frame rust. Took it into the stealership and it checked out with no issue. Imagine that no rust. There's a reason Toyota trucks have a great reputation for reliability and their resale value is as good as it gets. If they were junk then they woudn't be so highly regarded.
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/frame-rust-years.382824/
Post by: jackelope on December 25, 2018, 08:50:12 PM
https://autoweek.com/article/recalls/toyota-frame-settlement-could-cost-company-34-billion
Post by: Jason on December 25, 2018, 08:58:38 PM
http://www.carproblemzoo.com/ford/f-150/frame-rust-problems.phpI’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.No frame or bed rust on any of my Toyota trucks that I have had. Been driving a Toyota truck since 1994. My last Tundra did have a recall out for potential frame rust. Took it into the stealership and it checked out with no issue. Imagine that no rust. There's a reason Toyota trucks have a great reputation for reliability and their resale value is as good as it gets. If they were junk then they woudn't be so highly regarded.
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/frame-rust-years.382824/
Post by: Caseyd on December 25, 2018, 09:12:25 PM
Post by: Pnwrider on December 25, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
I’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.Every way except for resale...
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
Post by: Pnwrider on December 25, 2018, 09:34:18 PM
Post by: jackelope on December 25, 2018, 10:14:12 PM
Here’s a fact. At some point someone is going to get a bad Chevy/Ford/Toyota/Dodge/whatever and it’s going to have problems. Fact. That’s why there are service departments and warranties and trained technicians. They’re machines. They’ll break.
Casey- I don’t think I’ll buy a Chevy only because I think they’re ugly. I really like the look of the F150 and working for Ford, I would get a smoking deal on one. If I still worked for Dodge I’d probably buy a Dodge.
:dunno:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 25, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
People care way too much about this if you ask me. It comes down to a brand thing. There aren’t any current bad trucks. They’re kinda like bows if you ask me. Go drive a few and buy the one you like the best. They’re all good and occasionally there’s a bad one. I personally don’t care a lot about resale. My last Chevy truck i owned for 10 years. I traded it in on a new explorer for my wife. It had 250k miles on it. Resale was minimal at best and I was ok with that. Currently own a 2006 Jeep I bought mostly new. It’s got 185k miles on it. Again, resale won’t matter as it will be totally sacked out when I’m done with it.
Here’s a fact. At some point someone is going to get a bad Chevy/Ford/Toyota/Dodge/whatever and it’s going to have problems. Fact. That’s why there are service departments and warranties and trained technicians. They’re machines. They’ll break.
Casey- I don’t think I’ll buy a Chevy only because I think they’re ugly. I really like the look of the F150 and working for Ford, I would get a smoking deal on one. If I still worked for Dodge I’d probably buy a Dodge.
:dunno:
Is there a possible "Ford truck: Bulk buy" thread in the future like the smoker pellets and Benchmark barrel bulk buys??? :chuckle:
:peep:
Post by: Caseyd on December 25, 2018, 10:31:37 PM
Yeah only makes sense to buy what you get the best deal on.
Post by: Caseyd on December 25, 2018, 10:40:06 PM
People care way too much about this if you ask me. It comes down to a brand thing. There aren’t any current bad trucks. They’re kinda like bows if you ask me. Go drive a few and buy the one you like the best. They’re all good and occasionally there’s a bad one. I personally don’t care a lot about resale. My last Chevy truck i owned for 10 years. I traded it in on a new explorer for my wife. It had 250k miles on it. Resale was minimal at best and I was ok with that. Currently own a 2006 Jeep I bought mostly new. It’s got 185k miles on it. Again, resale won’t matter as it will be totally sacked out when I’m done with it.
Here’s a fact. At some point someone is going to get a bad Chevy/Ford/Toyota/Dodge/whatever and it’s going to have problems. Fact. That’s why there are service departments and warranties and trained technicians. They’re machines. They’ll break.
Casey- I don’t think I’ll buy a Chevy only because I think they’re ugly. I really like the look of the F150 and working for Ford, I would get a smoking deal on one. If I still worked for Dodge I’d probably buy a Dodge.
:dunno:
Is there a possible "Ford truck: Bulk buy" thread in the future like the smoker pellets and Benchmark barrel bulk buys??? :chuckle:
:peep:
:yike: that would possibly get me to try one of the new f-150s (lifelong gm owner that secretly wants give one a wirl)
Post by: jackelope on December 25, 2018, 10:40:50 PM
People care way too much about this if you ask me. It comes down to a brand thing. There aren’t any current bad trucks. They’re kinda like bows if you ask me. Go drive a few and buy the one you like the best. They’re all good and occasionally there’s a bad one. I personally don’t care a lot about resale. My last Chevy truck i owned for 10 years. I traded it in on a new explorer for my wife. It had 250k miles on it. Resale was minimal at best and I was ok with that. Currently own a 2006 Jeep I bought mostly new. It’s got 185k miles on it. Again, resale won’t matter as it will be totally sacked out when I’m done with it.
Here’s a fact. At some point someone is going to get a bad Chevy/Ford/Toyota/Dodge/whatever and it’s going to have problems. Fact. That’s why there are service departments and warranties and trained technicians. They’re machines. They’ll break.
Casey- I don’t think I’ll buy a Chevy only because I think they’re ugly. I really like the look of the F150 and working for Ford, I would get a smoking deal on one. If I still worked for Dodge I’d probably buy a Dodge.
:dunno:
Is there a possible "Ford truck: Bulk buy" thread in the future like the smoker pellets and Benchmark barrel bulk buys??? :chuckle:
:peep:
I could probably pull something together, but that would mean I’d have to deal with salespeople and I don’t want to do that.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on December 25, 2018, 11:16:17 PM
Post by: thinkingman on December 25, 2018, 11:51:16 PM
Yup.I’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.Every way except for resale...
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
That’s the only reason I bought a Toy.
It’s called ‘Greater Fool Theory ‘.
I didn’t see any posts about Toy rear leaf springs recall.
Might want to do a search for that.
Spend a few minutes in the Tacomaworld forums.
Bumpers rusted through is common.
Fuel door rusted off is another.
That Bellevue Toy dealer is so desperate to compete, they’ll tell you F150s require premium fuel(they don’t).
Post by: thinkingman on December 25, 2018, 11:57:56 PM
Toyota has a recall.http://www.carproblemzoo.com/ford/f-150/frame-rust-problems.phpI’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.No frame or bed rust on any of my Toyota trucks that I have had. Been driving a Toyota truck since 1994. My last Tundra did have a recall out for potential frame rust. Took it into the stealership and it checked out with no issue. Imagine that no rust. There's a reason Toyota trucks have a great reputation for reliability and their resale value is as good as it gets. If they were junk then they woudn't be so highly regarded.
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/frame-rust-years.382824/
Ford does not.
Do you know why?
Post by: Dan-o on December 26, 2018, 05:19:42 AM
#Toyota has a recall.http://www.carproblemzoo.com/ford/f-150/frame-rust-problems.phpI’ve posted plenty of reasons why Toyota is the most overrated vehicle on the road.No frame or bed rust on any of my Toyota trucks that I have had. Been driving a Toyota truck since 1994. My last Tundra did have a recall out for potential frame rust. Took it into the stealership and it checked out with no issue. Imagine that no rust. There's a reason Toyota trucks have a great reputation for reliability and their resale value is as good as it gets. If they were junk then they woudn't be so highly regarded.
Most owners are in love with the styling and ignore the many shortcomings.
Toyota trucks have some pretty glaring flaws. Search frame rust and bed rust, among others.
After driving a Tacoma for 9 years, my F150 is superior in every way.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/frame-rust-years.382824/
Ford does not.
Do you know why?
Better political connections?
Post by: kball4 on December 26, 2018, 06:47:04 AM
Post by: Bob33 on December 26, 2018, 07:59:53 AM
Post by: CoryTDF on December 26, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 26, 2018, 08:46:22 AM
Post by: Fishmaker57 on December 26, 2018, 09:03:44 AM
:twocents:
Post by: jackelope on December 26, 2018, 10:35:07 AM
Tundra, hands down. I know people are excited by Ford's new engine, and it's power, but lets see that engine at 200,000 miles. My Tundra still has the same power are torque it did when new, and has zero frame rust or squeaks or rattles.....at 237K! Never seen any other make of truck that has that long term quality.
:twocents:
Plenty of them out there with 200k miles on them. Ecoboost is not a "new" engine. Been out since 2011 now. Only a few years less than the 5.7 Toyota engine.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 26, 2018, 10:50:01 AM
🤔
Post by: CoryTDF on December 26, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/21396/2018-ford-f-150-diesel-truck-review-how-does-850-miles-of-range-on-a-tank-sound
🤔
Looks pretty sweet but too rich for my blood.
Post by: jackelope on December 26, 2018, 10:59:34 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 26, 2018, 11:03:44 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/21396/2018-ford-f-150-diesel-truck-review-how-does-850-miles-of-range-on-a-tank-sound
🤔
Looks pretty sweet but too rich for my blood.
Yeah I know, with a 2004 Ram 2500 diesel sitting in my driveway that’s going to be there a lot longer. 😉
Post by: vandeman17 on December 26, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 26, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
Partial thread jack but still relevant since I am looking at same two models. Current 06 f-150 is standard bed at 5'8". Found a nice 2013 ecoboost with all options i want and at a good price but same size bed. Think I should hold out for longer bed?
I would, but I can’t live without an 8’ in the yard.🤣
Post by: Sandberm on December 26, 2018, 11:15:02 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/21396/2018-ford-f-150-diesel-truck-review-how-does-850-miles-of-range-on-a-tank-sound
🤔
Looks pretty sweet but too rich for my blood.
Yeah I know, with a 2004 Ram 2500 diesel sitting in my driveway that’s going to be there a lot longer. 😉
New pickups are too expensive for me. I drive too much and would wear them out too fast to spend $50k+ every 6 years or so on transportation. Ive gone with the fleet mentality, have a few older pickups, do my own maintenance with the help of youtube and hope someday to come into some good money.
That being said, you guys sure are making these eco boost Fords sound attractive.
Post by: jackelope on December 26, 2018, 11:17:56 AM
Partial thread jack but still relevant since I am looking at same two models. Current 06 f-150 is standard bed at 5'8". Found a nice 2013 ecoboost with all options i want and at a good price but same size bed. Think I should hold out for longer bed?
I probably would, but I can't really say I can think of any reasons why I "had" to have the longer bed. If the deal is good enough, go for it, unless you have a significant building project coming up or something where you'll be hauling a lot of stuff. I've survived 3 years without a pickup(I've used a small utility trailer a few times) so I'm sure a 5.5' bed would suffice for me 99% of the time.
Post by: vandeman17 on December 26, 2018, 11:21:34 AM
Partial thread jack but still relevant since I am looking at same two models. Current 06 f-150 is standard bed at 5'8". Found a nice 2013 ecoboost with all options i want and at a good price but same size bed. Think I should hold out for longer bed?
I probably would, but I can't really say I can think of any reasons why I "had" to have the longer bed. If the deal is good enough, go for it, unless you have a significant building project coming up or something where you'll be hauling a lot of stuff. I've survived 3 years without a pickup(I've used a small utility trailer a few times) so I'm sure a 5.5' bed would suffice for me 99% of the time.
That is my thought too. I just bought a little utility trailer that i can use majority of the time but just not sure if it is worth waiting for long bed or not just in case. Like you said, 99% of the time the shorter bed is fine for me but that 1% I get >:(
Post by: jackelope on December 26, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on December 26, 2018, 11:30:32 AM
It's a little longer and the turning radius is a little larger so maybe a little bit more difficult to get into parking spots. Not an issue for me, but it does bother some. Aside from that I can't think of any downside to the longer wheel base.
Agreed. Shorter wheel base and easier to park is nice, especially when the old lady drives it which can be an adventure on its own!
Post by: CoryTDF on December 26, 2018, 01:49:21 PM
One thing I will say some people don't like about the newer F150's is the new 10 speed transmission. It shifts all over the place. Can shift from 2nd-5th for example if it feels so inclined. It's doing it all in the name of fuel economy and emissions output, so it's normal, but it does seem to drive some people a little crazy. Most people don't ever mention or complain about it. Most newer vehicles do some weird shifting for the same reasons so I don't think it's anything abnormal...just figured it was worth mentioning.
My 2018 Odyssey is like this. Honestly it drives me nuts. Feels like your are stepping on a bad apple at first and it accelerates slow. When you stop on it the van gets with it ans almost sounds like it's going to explode. LOL i was told this was normal.
Post by: jackelope on December 26, 2018, 01:53:34 PM
One thing I will say some people don't like about the newer F150's is the new 10 speed transmission. It shifts all over the place. Can shift from 2nd-5th for example if it feels so inclined. It's doing it all in the name of fuel economy and emissions output, so it's normal, but it does seem to drive some people a little crazy. Most people don't ever mention or complain about it. Most newer vehicles do some weird shifting for the same reasons so I don't think it's anything abnormal...just figured it was worth mentioning.
My 2018 Odyssey is like this. Honestly it drives me nuts. Feels like your are stepping on a bad apple at first and it accelerates slow. When you stop on it the van gets with it ans almost sounds like it's going to explode. LOL i was told this was normal.
s'normal...
:chuckle:
Post by: Sandberm on December 26, 2018, 01:55:33 PM
One thing I will say some people don't like about the newer F150's is the new 10 speed transmission. It shifts all over the place. Can shift from 2nd-5th for example if it feels so inclined. It's doing it all in the name of fuel economy and emissions output, so it's normal, but it does seem to drive some people a little crazy. Most people don't ever mention or complain about it. Most newer vehicles do some weird shifting for the same reasons so I don't think it's anything abnormal...just figured it was worth mentioning.
My 2018 Odyssey is like this. Honestly it drives me nuts. Feels like your are stepping on a bad apple at first and it accelerates slow. When you stop on it the van gets with it ans almost sounds like it's going to explode. LOL i was told this was normal.
I think all new vehicles shift too much from what I've heard. When I approach a hill I shift down a gear just so i do not have to listen to the transmission shift 5 or 6 times up and down as I climb the hill. Drives me nuts seeing the tach go from 1200ish to 2000ish, back n forth, back n forth as it shifts up and down.
Post by: thinkingman on December 26, 2018, 04:11:12 PM
And the F150 doesn't have to run 4.10 or 4.30 gears to give the illusion of power.Tundra, hands down. I know people are excited by Ford's new engine, and it's power, but lets see that engine at 200,000 miles. My Tundra still has the same power are torque it did when new, and has zero frame rust or squeaks or rattles.....at 237K! Never seen any other make of truck that has that long term quality.
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Plenty of them out there with 200k miles on them. Ecoboost is not a "new" engine. Been out since 2011 now. Only a few years less than the 5.7 Toyota engine.
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