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Title: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: saudog on September 14, 2011, 04:22:09 PM
There are like 3 threads running now where guys are advertising where they are killing their elk.  I am a rifle hunter and don't get to be out there until November, and there's all of these posts with pictures of elk killed in the area I hunt.  I just rubs me the wrong way.  Everyone's welcome to do their own thing but I wish people would not advertise to the damn little detail where they are seeing/killing all of these elk.  Unit plus pictures and/or descriptions of major landmarks, roads, mountains, etc.  Might as well post a map with GPS coordinates.  Do you not want to keep your area's less populated, and force other hunters to work at finding elk just like we all have had to over the years?

Ok, I'm done venting.  Hopefully I didn't offend anyone and I hope you get where I'm coming from.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Buckmark on September 14, 2011, 04:27:40 PM
Ok, I'm done venting.  Hopefully I didn't offend anyone and I hope you get where I'm coming from.
*
Uh no where are you coming from, you dont have a location on your profile.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: rebal69972 on September 14, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
compleatly agree last year there where maybe 30 people where i was hunting when i drove in 3 days before season started there had to be 100 camps set up. i didnt get to hunt opening day but last year there where alot of post on here and other sights talking about all the elk  :bash:  :bash:  :bash:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: saudog on September 14, 2011, 04:29:20 PM
Buckmark, judging from your avatar, you don't like my thread.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2011, 04:34:20 PM
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there's all of these posts with pictures of elk killed in the area I hunt

And what area would that be?
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: billythekidrock on September 14, 2011, 04:37:08 PM
There are like 3 threads running now where guys are advertising where they are killing their elk. 

Which three threads?
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: grundy53 on September 14, 2011, 04:37:27 PM
I agree. if you really want to share with someone send a PM. But everyone is free to do as they wish and I can't say that I haven't at least looked into information about places I've learned about on here (haven't actually hunted any of them).
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Dan-o on September 14, 2011, 04:41:08 PM
Too funny.   No harm, no foul.   I doubt too many internet elk hunters are getting their animals by looking at pics.

P.S.   Please do not post pics of elk taken from where I hunt.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Buckmark on September 14, 2011, 04:42:24 PM
Buckmark, judging from your avatar, you don't like my thread.
Your venting so it's all good...your not whining correct... ;)
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Bigshooter on September 14, 2011, 04:42:54 PM
Too funny.   No harm, no foul.   I doubt too many internet elk hunters are getting their animals by looking at pics.

P.S.   Please do not post pics of elk taken from where I hunt.



 :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2011, 04:43:02 PM
I will say that 99% of the time, all I ever see in a successful elk hunting story, is the GMU the elk was taken. To me that isn't much of an issue. Anyone can look at harvest reports and see the units where the majority of the elk are killed.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: grundy53 on September 14, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
 
Too funny.   No harm, no foul.   I doubt too many internet elk hunters are getting their animals by looking at pics.

P.S.   Please do not post pics of elk taken from where I hunt.

 :yeah:  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: singleshot12 on September 14, 2011, 04:47:04 PM
I use areas being posted as places NOT to go figuring that everybody and their brother will be there now. So I guess it has been useful  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runniNgunnin on September 14, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
a smart guy might look up harvest reports instead of a 3 or 4 guys "white lying" or misdirecting others about there success  :dunno: i love my fellow hunter but when i talk to someone out in the hills i never really take their information to serious... :bdid:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Alan K on September 14, 2011, 04:55:39 PM
If people really follow hype over a picture on the internet that someone SAYS they got in a certain area and travel there to hunt essentially blind, I'm not too worried about them - They're crazy to chase something like that.

Harvest reports show more about the area than a couple of guys posting pictures of bulls they harvested during the rut.  Lots of bulls are killed every year in areas with limited elk populations solely because of the rut.  A couple pictures of these elk doesn't necessarily mean it's a good place to hunt, and any out of towner willing the pony up the fuel to chase a picture posted on the internet can be my guest and waste the fuel money. Bet they'll only do that once.   :dunno:

Also, I think it would take a seriously desperate hunter to base their decisions on where to hunt on pictures and a potentially erroneous story/location.

 :twocents:

Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: buglebuster on September 14, 2011, 04:57:49 PM
I'm not to worried about it. I,know where the elk I have been watching all year in my unit hang out. And they are still there and archery season is almost over  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 14, 2011, 05:02:22 PM
They are doing it simply to elicit a thread like this one :chuckle:....they wanted to irritate you and its working while you are on here venting they are stealing your elk  :chuckle:..ah hell no one seems to be posting coordinates of where they shot elk not sure which posts you are talking about :dunno:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: elkaholic on September 14, 2011, 05:11:07 PM
No ELK in WASHINGTON! Go to Idaho, oh I hunt there too, try Colorado.... :chuckle:

ELK are where you find them!!!!
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runniNgunnin on September 14, 2011, 05:15:34 PM
I'm not to worried about it. I,know where the elk I have been watching all year in my unit hang out. And they are still there and archery season is almost over  :IBCOOL:

nope i got mine/yours yesterday morning....  :sry:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 14, 2011, 05:21:44 PM
hey I do not care if they post there hunting area  :chuckle: As long as its not mine  :dunno:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Bean Counter on September 14, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
I inquire about GMUs from time to time simply because I'm curious. I never follow the answer up with "so this road or that road" or even what end of the GMU the animal was taken from. If you want to be that private maybe you shouldn't even post.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 14, 2011, 05:31:35 PM
This is why I say the internet is going to ruin hunting as we've learned it. I'll gladly admit that I pay close attention to location when a big animal is killed. I very much prefer to do everything on my own but it must be human nature to be interested in areas that are producing.

All a guy can do is keep quiet and hope for the best these days.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: grundy53 on September 14, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: gaddy on September 14, 2011, 05:56:53 PM
all i can say is that i once had a deer hunting area that i felt was ok, then i met a hunter from seattle. he told me that a friend of his that had moved into the area had suggested the area as looking good.
that hunter was successful.
next year there were 5 campers in that spot.(# of hunters ?) it ballooned from there.
hunter #s went up & success went down, but still they kept comming.
This was before the internet, the area is junk now but they still keep comming. it only takes one set of loose lips to sink the ship.
I dont think the picts & stories hurt but word of mouth has been around for a loooong time. I personaly dont trust the harvest reports as much as some & prefere to see for myself but if a friend says, HEY the clockum has elk behind every tree, well i might be inclined to go there & check it out.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 14, 2011, 06:10:30 PM
For at least the case of the spike only areas, I don't see a huge negative to the special permit guys talking about the bulls.  Such a limited amount of people that can hunt them.  Now if it was westside, you're basically inviting hundreds of people to that area.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: HOYT6.0 on September 14, 2011, 06:11:06 PM
Too funny.   No harm, no foul.   I doubt too many internet elk hunters are getting their animals by looking at pics.

P.S.   Please do not post pics of elk taken from where I hunt.

That is funny.  :chuckle: From what Ive seen where I hunted at.  You have to get out of the truck and off the roads to hunt elk... :twocents:  Being a panzy and staying on the roads will not get you an elk.  You may see them, but you wont get a shot.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: PA BEN on September 14, 2011, 06:47:45 PM
How about this, I shot my bull last year in the Dickey GMU 602. Go for it. :dunno:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 14, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
How about this, I shot my bull last year in the Dickey GMU 602. Go for it. :dunno:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  There's already half the population of the county in 602 come modern elk.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Huntbear on September 14, 2011, 06:55:40 PM
Ok,, how about this.....

I did NOT shoot my elk in any GMU # with a 1 or 2 or 3 or a 4 in it.... 

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Instinct on September 14, 2011, 06:59:24 PM
Thought this year would be a zoo where i was at like last year. Nope hardly anyone
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: 400out on September 14, 2011, 07:40:15 PM
I always hunt the cascades so I'm used to it!
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: BAR C3 on September 14, 2011, 08:03:26 PM
There are like 3 threads running now where guys are advertising where they are killing their elk.  I am a rifle hunter and don't get to be out there until November, and there's all of these posts with pictures of elk killed in the area I hunt.  I just rubs me the wrong way.  Everyone's welcome to do their own thing but I wish people would not advertise to the damn little detail where they are seeing/killing all of these elk.  Unit plus pictures and/or descriptions of major landmarks, roads, mountains, etc.  Might as well post a map with GPS coordinates.  Do you not want to keep your area's less populated, and force other hunters to work at finding elk just like we all have had to over the years?

Ok, I'm done venting.  Hopefully I didn't offend anyone and I hope you get where I'm coming from.

 :yeah:
I don't how many times I have saw guys give areas to hunt on here as well.
I will go ahead and say it since the secret is out, but I'm done with Washington after what I just witnessed in Peaches this year. I thought I was hunting rifle season. I blame most of it on the Game Department. The Unit is ruined!  :bash:
I have been 100% successful in either killing one or having and/or providing a shot for someone. Saw two cows and every honey hole I though I had was highly populated. Talked to a guy that was hunting the Wilderness. There was 16 rigs at Ravens Roost and he said that no one, including the guided guys were getting into elk.
The Muzzleloaders will pay for it because of all the traffic and road hunters with bows. The rifle October 1-10 will as well. There will be bulls in there, but will be very jumpy since 1,000 guys have been bugling and cow calling in there.
I will go back to the state I have hunted for 15 years and pay the extra money for three months of a quality hunt. Good Luck guys!
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: dscubame on September 14, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
All the fish I catch are from the same river, all the deer from the same ridge, and the elk from the same hole...funny thing is I have never actually been on that river, on top of that ridge, or down in that hole. 

Post your story and area but there is no difference if you reference the Blues where every one knows all the elk are rather than Mica Peak where you actually were.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: ldjbuff on September 14, 2011, 08:29:26 PM
Unsure why it bothers me just like the person who started the thread. The only hunters I see are road hunters so it really doesn't effect me, but just bothers me people posting the area. I will now only say I got it in the woods :IBCOOL:


I did however move out of the area and put a few members on my old honey hole, I wont use it again, I figure someone should.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Swannytheswan on September 14, 2011, 08:31:12 PM
Too funny.   No harm, no foul.   I doubt too many internet elk hunters are getting their animals by looking at pics.

P.S.   Please do not post pics of elk taken from where I hunt.

you should tell me where you hunt so I don't post pictures from there...
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: cagifford on September 14, 2011, 08:42:44 PM
It seems to me, and maybe im wrong, that it doesn't really matter that much if you know what road I hunt on. Im sure that someone has seen your truck parked at your spot and thought that maybe it was a good spot to hunt so maybe you need to make sure you take 3 or 4 trucks and park decoy trucks around your unit/road/camp so that nobody will know where you hunt. Ravens roost has been mentioned so i'll go down that road, you'll do a lot of hiking before you find great spots to hunt up in that area. I hunted up cowichie mill road for years with my bow on private property that recently went from feel free to hunt to no tresspassing and I garentee you would have your work cut out for you finding elk just by knowing that there are elk up cowichie mill road.. There are elk in gmu 346, 356, 360 etc now everyone knows the secret but I doubt that information will increase success rates for anyone on the forum. The trick in my opinion is finding the right draw/clearing/wallow etc and has nothing to do with the unit. Hell people kill elk up around spokane but mostly local guys who know where the relatively small herd resides.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: blacktail luv on September 14, 2011, 09:02:13 PM
I use the decoy truck thing all the time.  Around here everyone knows who the handful of consistently successful hunters are and they will hunt your rigs.  Where my truck is may or may not be where I'm actually hunting.  I only do this during elk season, good elk spots are to hard to come by. 
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: BAR C3 on September 14, 2011, 09:38:33 PM
It seems to me, and maybe im wrong, that it doesn't really matter that much if you know what road I hunt on. Im sure that someone has seen your truck parked at your spot and thought that maybe it was a good spot to hunt so maybe you need to make sure you take 3 or 4 trucks and park decoy trucks around your unit/road/camp so that nobody will know where you hunt. Ravens roost has been mentioned so i'll go down that road, you'll do a lot of hiking before you find great spots to hunt up in that area. I hunted up cowichie mill road for years with my bow on private property that recently went from feel free to hunt to no tresspassing and I garentee you would have your work cut out for you finding elk just by knowing that there are elk up cowichie mill road.. There are elk in gmu 346, 356, 360 etc now everyone knows the secret but I doubt that information will increase success rates for anyone on the forum. The trick in my opinion is finding the right draw/clearing/wallow etc and has nothing to do with the unit. Hell people kill elk up around spokane but mostly local guys who know where the relatively small herd resides.

You make a good point.
But that honey hole doesn't last long if you saw what I saw. I have never ran into another hunter in Peaches in the woods prior to the flood gates opening. I went to my last honey hole before I left for home two days early. Called in a herd bull away from his cows. Problem was I didn't have a bull tag. At least I got to pretend. I thought I was the only person in my spot. Got back to the truck after my encounter and drove down the road and there was a rig a 1/4 mile from where I parked and a huge camp at the end of the road. I have never seen another hunter in there. Not even during Rifle season. There were guys coming out of the timber all up and down the main roads.
That spot and bull will remain secret with me, but it won't be long till someone finds it!  :beatdeadhorse:
Don't be surprised when the season gets over that there won't be a bunch of threads going on the craziness in that unit.  :yike:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: kglacken on September 14, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
I will say that 99% of the time, all I ever see in a successful elk hunting story, is the GMU the elk was taken. To me that isn't much of an issue. Anyone can look at harvest reports and see the units where the majority of the elk are killed.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: BENCHLEG on September 14, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
trust me blacktail luv they will figure it out.   but those that know the area know how how to hunt the area. give them all the info they want , just don't give them the tools. :chuckle: :chuckle:. good luck see ya soon.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: saudog on September 14, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
It's guys posting the unit, plus the fact that they were right on the border to XXX unit, plus a picture of a giant recognizable volcano in the background, etc.  Then instead of just saying they got an elk, they say they were in the middle of 3 different herds with shooter bulls running every which way.

When it lands right on you increasingly overcrowded hunting spot, same spot you've been hunting for decades and with your dad, learning it like the back of your hand, it strikes a nerve.  Too much info in my opinion.

And do you really believe the harvest reports?  I don't think that anyone actually a.) tells the truth regarding whether they got an elk or b.) I.D.'s the actual unit they shot the elk in.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2011, 11:25:49 PM
And do you really believe the harvest reports?  I don't think that anyone actually a.) tells the truth regarding whether they got an elk or b.) I.D.'s the actual unit they shot the elk in.

I do, and always have.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Arteman on September 15, 2011, 01:04:08 AM
Hahaha gotta love Elk hunting, its the farthest shooting gun, fastest vehicle, and the badest mutha f'er when you get there anymore!  That's why I do 100% of my hunting in walk in units for anything.  It's actually getting to a point that the st Helens tree farm is dangerous to hunt, somebody will end up hurt or worse.  Some years back I watched a truck on opening morning trying to get past another truck that wasn't having it and they collided, next thing I'm watching them duke it out in the road in front of me.  Anyways point is, every year new hunters, land isnt getting bigger, no matter your spot somebody else will be there too.  Just got to beat them at the game. Lol
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: sharpeshooter on September 15, 2011, 01:16:50 AM
Hate to say it, but this site is ruining for good hunters who get out and actually beat the brush to find good spots! Especially when you see someone from California or Ohio post on here that they need a spot to hunt and that one guy says ill pm you and tell you. I don't need to brag about the animals I kill so I don't post them, even though some would make lots jealous. If you got a good spot keep it to yourself and let the weekend warriors figure it out for themselves.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: NWBREW on September 15, 2011, 03:41:44 AM
I rarely believe anything I read.  :chuckle: Unless you were there..........the truth of location may never really be known.  :chuckle: :dunno:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: dirty24d on September 15, 2011, 06:54:15 AM
Im not picking on anyone but in my opinion this thread aligns perfectly with a discussion had awhile back about how Elk hunting essentially brings out the worst in the majority of hunters. People get more irresponsible, unethical, & rude when Elk season comes around.

Its not people posting up pictures of their harvest with gmu info thats overcrowding your hunting areas its short seasons, limited areas, a growing # of hunters, and a crappy economy thats driving people that may normally travel further but cant afford it or may skip out but have this wild pipedream that they are just gonna drive out on opening day and whack an elk.

Anybody upset over a guy that wants to share pics and a vicinty of where they harvested an animal has insecurity and confidence issues.  i could sit here and tell everyone I'm gonna shoot my deer in Monroe this year and its not gonna effect my hunt. I actually depend on the archery, and muzzleloaders guys to pressure  the deer in my area and push them right where i want them.. 

Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Woodchuck on September 15, 2011, 06:57:38 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 15, 2011, 07:01:36 AM
I don't hunt elk anymore because of all the wingnuts out hunting them. Too many shots flying overhead from people that shouldn't own a gun.......
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: saudog on September 15, 2011, 07:59:39 AM

Anybody upset over a guy that wants to share pics and a vicinty of where they harvested an animal has insecurity and confidence issues.  i could sit here and tell everyone I'm gonna shoot my deer in Monroe this year and its not gonna effect my hunt. I actually depend on the archery, and muzzleloaders guys to pressure  the deer in my area and push them right where i want them..

Ok doctor.  Thanks for your analysis.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 15, 2011, 08:06:39 AM
It is all so complicated, competitive, and dangerous lets just ban hunting then no one will be getting upset over who is doing what?  :dunno:


and I plan to post GPS coordinates...but first I need to find some really good ones  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Martinhunter on September 15, 2011, 08:09:55 AM
Me personally, I think when someone shares were they got their elk or deer or whatever it might be, 90% of the time their not really telling you were they actually got it. Just my  :twocents:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: MADMAX on September 15, 2011, 08:15:23 AM
I got an elk in the Toutle unit in the timber
I see no issue with that.
I used no flashlight and I also did indeed tag it .
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: GoldTip on September 15, 2011, 09:00:55 AM
I understand where your coming from on this, but man are the elk all really just standing around in your unit waiting to die?  They sure aren't in my unit where I hunt in Idaho and even if I gave exact coordinates to where I killed my last elk, there won't be another one standing there when others get there.  Elk move around, they will stay in your drainage even if someone is hunting your favorite little hillside.  if someone is choosing their elk spot to go exactly where you say you got your last elk, than they will get there, not find an elk standing there and not hunt it again anyway.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: dirty24d on September 15, 2011, 09:09:56 AM

Anybody upset over a guy that wants to share pics and a vicinty of where they harvested an animal has insecurity and confidence issues.  i could sit here and tell everyone I'm gonna shoot my deer in Monroe this year and its not gonna effect my hunt. I actually depend on the archery, and muzzleloaders guys to pressure  the deer in my area and push them right where i want them..

Ok doctor.  Thanks for your analysis.

 :ACRY:

Just sayin...   ;)
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: quadrafire on September 15, 2011, 09:11:05 AM
Talked to a guy that was hunting the Wilderness. There was 16 rigs at Ravens Roost and he said that no one, including the guided guys were getting into elk.
I was up there last weekend (not hunting but taking pictures) there were at least twice that many rigs driving up and down the road. At the hours I was seeing people, I can't imagine they ever got far from the rig. That is some pretty rugged country. I was a bit off the beaten path and I saw elk. But sure as heck not from the road.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Bean Counter on September 15, 2011, 01:36:08 PM
Im not picking on anyone but in my opinion this thread aligns perfectly with a discussion had awhile back about how Elk hunting essentially brings out the worst in the majority of hunters. People get more irresponsible, unethical, & rude when Elk season comes around.

Its not people posting up pictures of their harvest with gmu info thats overcrowding your hunting areas its short seasons, limited areas, a growing # of hunters, and a crappy economy thats driving people that may normally travel further but cant afford it or may skip out but have this wild pipedream that they are just gonna drive out on opening day and whack an elk.

Anybody upset over a guy that wants to share pics and a vicinty of where they harvested an animal has insecurity and confidence issues.  i could sit here and tell everyone I'm gonna shoot my deer in Monroe this year and its not gonna effect my hunt. I actually depend on the archery, and muzzleloaders guys to pressure  the deer in my area and push them right where i want them..

Thank you for reminding us all why Washington should go to draw only for elk. Most other Western states do it and are better off as a result. I see the entitlement mentality is alive and well in the PNW. Too many people get attached to "THEIR" spot forgetting that wildlife is a public resource on (usually) public land.

There, that should sufficiently  :stirthepot: ...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: bobcat on September 15, 2011, 01:43:56 PM
Quote
Thank you for reminding us all why Washington should go to draw only for elk.

Exactly what I was thinking earlier today but I refrained from saying such a thing as it usually doesn't go over very well.   :chuckle:
 
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Buckmark on September 15, 2011, 02:02:14 PM
Ya, well as long as you dont camp in MY spot, park your truck in MY spot, glass MY landing, hike up MY trail then all is good.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Drake7 on September 15, 2011, 02:04:26 PM
EW Rifle season is essentially draw only right now.  Finding spikes in November is a needle in a haystack proposition.  :chuckle:
Do people out there really choose where they hunt based on pictures and GMU #s from this site :dunno: Hard to believe...
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: KillBilly on September 15, 2011, 02:13:59 PM
Pretty obvious to me, they do it because they want to... :hello:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 15, 2011, 02:20:24 PM
Ya, well as long as you dont camp in MY spot, park your truck in MY spot, glass MY landing, hike up MY trail then all is good.... :chuckle:


He forgot "Steel my thong off the clothes line" and "Come around the corner and ruin the shot I've got lined up out the truck window"
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Bean Counter on September 15, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
EW Rifle season is essentially draw only right now.  Finding spikes in November is a needle in a haystack proposition.  :chuckle:

Yep, and I'd be fine with a draw for all the current amount of branch bulls and a notional % of spike tags that are currently bought, say 50%. Just to keep hordes and hordes of *censored*es who go out for a walk in the woods with a gun and keep the serious hunters from getting camping spots, running into the pumpkin patch, etc.

Do people out there really choose where they hunt based on pictures and GMU #s from this site :dunno: Hard to believe...

 +1 :stup:

Part of sharing is simply it being nice to know where animals come from. But, c'est la vie. If someone wants to withhold the information I guess that's there perogative. I'm just glad the OP opened the door for me to make fun of 'em for doing so  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Bean Counter on September 15, 2011, 02:24:13 PM
Exactly what I was thinking earlier today but I refrained from saying such a thing as it usually doesn't go over very well.   :chuckle:

I'm glad someone on here exercises discretion  :chuckle:

As I said... "entitlement mentality." The WDFW and wolves are not all to blame for the lack of quality hunting in Washington.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Band on September 15, 2011, 02:25:17 PM
Do people out there really choose where they hunt based on pictures and GMU #s from this site :dunno: Hard to believe...
I can't imagine experienced hunters doing that.  But the folks who are new to hunting or who don't see many animals in their usual spot would certainly be scouting for whatever location information they can glean here as part of their research so they can be more successful.  It's human nature and I don't think there is anything wrong with that.  I'm not in a hurry to share specifics about where I hunt.  If other folks want to do that that's up to them.  (But don't do it if you hunt where I do ;) ). :twocents:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: vandeman17 on September 15, 2011, 02:30:07 PM
I wasn't going to post on this thread but against my better judgement I am going to. I haven't seen or can recall posts that give exact locations to where somebody shot their elk. Most of what I have seen is GMU or area, such as Blewett Pass or something. If that is giving away a spot then I am the easter bunny. Goldtip made a good point that even if I told you exactly where I shot one, doesn't mean there is going to be another there or within a mile of there. I think it comes down to we all want to get an animal so bad that we let it get under our skin and let petty little things bother us...  :twocents:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 15, 2011, 02:39:59 PM
Kind of like people getting bent out of shape with C-Post?
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Buckmark on September 15, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
Ya, well as long as you dont camp in MY spot, park your truck in MY spot, glass MY landing, hike up MY trail then all is good.... :chuckle:


He forgot "Steel my thong off the clothes line" and "Come around the corner and ruin the shot I've got lined up out the truck window"
No thongs since i lost mine at the rainbow gathering, i have not found a suitable replacement (all too big) and need to just take the time and knit myself one.. Dang it the gun out the window trick is my go to method, dont post it now everybody will do it.
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So from this post i have learned that when i post a pic of a kill i will photoshop some obvious well known feature into it and give pretty good indicators of were i am.....or is it really were i was????
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 15, 2011, 03:10:21 PM
My I suggest hemp if you are knitting your own. I find that once you get over the initial "scuffing" it can be quite comfortable.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Buckmark on September 15, 2011, 03:26:16 PM
My I suggest hemp if you are knitting your own. I find that once you get over the initial "scuffing" it can be quite comfortable.
This is a very distrubing and also very telling....May i suggest bag balm during the break in period.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 15, 2011, 03:30:11 PM
You may, however, it is ill advised. See the bag balm initially soaks into the fibers which in turn make it soft and pliable. However, it soon begins to absorb oder, sweat, and shall we say "material". You then have to add more to counteract the problem which as you can imagine simply compounds the problem, then you add more and so on. It gets ugly after that.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 15, 2011, 03:41:32 PM
You may, however, it is ill advised. See the bag balm initially soaks into the fibers which in turn make it soft and pliable. However, it soon begins to absorb oder, sweat, and shall we say "material". You then have to add more to counteract the problem which as you can imagine simply compounds the problem, then you add more and so on. It gets ugly after that.

guys I am thinking maybe just forgo the thong and hunt naked  :dunno:....seems like it might be easier definitely be cheaper  :dunno: no knitting or weaving involved ...less chafing and then deciding which product to use to counter the chafing ....still cannot believe we had that thread :chuckle: 
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: CamoDup on September 15, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
 :puke:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 15, 2011, 03:55:37 PM
Oh Run....to bad you are all the way in eburg. A while back you and I chatted during my thread regarding all the bacon products I could wear during bear season. You seemed enamored with my prowess in finding bacon deodorant, mints, that kind of stuff. Now, you suggest this. My problem will be finding enough camo body paint to cover myslef. I'm very pale you know.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Buckmark on September 15, 2011, 03:59:53 PM
Find a wallow and roll it it h20, best camo and cover scent all in one....there are few out there big enough.
humm i smell bacon flavored microwave popcorn cookin...
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 15, 2011, 04:03:07 PM
Oh Run....to bad you are all the way in eburg. A while back you and I chatted during my thread regarding all the bacon products I could wear during bear season. You seemed enamored with my prowess in finding bacon deodorant, mints, that kind of stuff. Now, you suggest this. My problem will be finding enough camo body paint to cover myslef. I'm very pale you know.

camo body paint...oh heck yes I just had a brilliant notion...  :tup:

note to self need art supplies.......and a photographer


mmmmm bacon.....everything is better with bacon ;)
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 15, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
If we make this happen we will have some very interesting thread topics.

Example:

Albino ex-athelete hairless sasquatch with body paint seen........scent of bacon lingered at site upon further exploration, no sign of the albino creature.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 15, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
If we make this happen we will have some very interesting thread topics.

Example:

Albino ex-athelete hairless sasquatch with body paint seen........scent of bacon lingered at site upon further exploration, no sign of the albino creature.

you left out the most important part ...the exact location with gps coordinates  ;)

and if I remember right big tex said its a crime to be naked in the forest so I wanna know how a person camping is supposed to change clothes?  :dunno: I am very literal when it comes to the law  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: steen on September 15, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
I don't think posting where you shot an animal hurts.  I have never used the info on here to get my animal but I have figured out how busy the area we are hunting this year will be and can be better prepared for that.  I'm also glad a friend used the info I gave him to put in for his elk and he was "selected" and is hunting as we speak.  I hope he gets an extremely nice elk with his bow.  I enjoy taking people and introducing them to hunting even if it means giving away a spot I hunt in order to get them out there.  We need more hunters to help fight for our rights.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 15, 2011, 04:42:37 PM
Well, I for one think you guys are way off base here.  I mean, for example, I have no problem at all directing people to the Colockum for elk hunting. 

I mean, there are THOUSANDS of big bulls in there, and I think the last I heard spike bulls made up about 40% of the overall population.
If you are a new elk hunter, then you should go hunt the Colockum.  If you are putting in for a special draw quality bull permit, you should put in for the Colockum.  Cow Tags?  Colockum's got jillions of them.  If you are thinking of giving muzzleloader or bow hunting a try for the first time, you should hunt the Colockum.  If you get drawn for the Incentive Tag or the Raffle Tag, I would spend 99.999999% of my time in the Colockum.  Governor's Tag?  If I were Doyle Moss, I'd bring my high-dollar-dude into the Colockum.
Listen, if I were greedy, or didn't think there were enough elk to go around, I would do this, but c'mon... It's like an elk-zoo in there.... :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: jnevs23 on September 15, 2011, 11:26:01 PM
Nothing better than complaining about people on Internet sites giving out info.... On an Internet hunting site. 
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 15, 2011, 11:50:15 PM
Blue Creek
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Lunchbox1981 on September 16, 2011, 02:53:46 AM
Ya, well as long as you dont camp in MY spot, park your truck in MY spot, glass MY landing, hike up MY trail then all is good.... :chuckle:


He forgot "Steel my thong off the clothes line" and "Come around the corner and ruin the shot I've got lined up out the truck window"
No thongs since i lost mine at the rainbow gathering, i have not found a suitable replacement (all too big) and need to just take the time and knit myself one.. Dang it the gun out the window trick is my go to method, dont post it now everybody will do it.
*
So from this post i have learned that when i post a pic of a kill i will photoshop some obvious well known feature into it and give pretty good indicators of were i am.....or is it really were i was????

I sense a Devils Tower sighting in the near future.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 16, 2011, 07:04:58 AM
Well, I for one think you guys are way off base here.  I mean, for example, I have no problem at all directing people to the Colockum for elk hunting. 

I mean, there are THOUSANDS of big bulls in there, and I think the last I heard spike bulls made up about 40% of the overall population.
If you are a new elk hunter, then you should go hunt the Colockum.  If you are putting in for a special draw quality bull permit, you should put in for the Colockum.  Cow Tags?  Colockum's got jillions of them.  If you are thinking of giving muzzleloader or bow hunting a try for the first time, you should hunt the Colockum.  If you get drawn for the Incentive Tag or the Raffle Tag, I would spend 99.999999% of my time in the Colockum.  Governor's Tag?  If I were Doyle Moss, I'd bring my high-dollar-dude into the Colockum.
Listen, if I were greedy, or didn't think there were enough elk to go around, I would do this, but c'mon... It's like an elk-zoo in there.... :tup: :tup:

colockum is gonna send his black helicopters after you...you know he has the elk all penned behind a high fence in there....now you are gonna send everyone in there and he is gonna need more bigfoots to keep them out ....his bigfoot army will just keep growing at this rate
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: TheHunt on September 16, 2011, 07:21:36 AM
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Thank you for reminding us all why Washington should go to draw only for elk.

Exactly what I was thinking earlier today but I refrained from saying such a thing as it usually doesn't go over very well.   :chuckle:

I agree as well.  Draw only for the entire state for bulls.  Then open up over the counter cow tags for specific units.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: runamuk on September 16, 2011, 07:31:14 AM
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Thank you for reminding us all why Washington should go to draw only for elk.

Exactly what I was thinking earlier today but I refrained from saying such a thing as it usually doesn't go over very well.   :chuckle:

I agree as well.  Draw only for the entire state for bulls.  Then open up over the counter cow tags for specific units.

may as well of course it will kill any chance for someone like me ever hunting elk...but all the trophy hunters would be happier with that system from the way I understand it  :dunno:  I dunno when it gets this restricted it starts feeling real monarchy european royalty wealthy land baronish and not very American  :dunno:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: starr on September 16, 2011, 09:22:01 AM
11"21' North latitude and 142" 12' East longitude, or 90° North latitude 142 East Longitude. not hunting either spot this year, anyone that wants go ahead a punch it in your GPS and hit the road. GPS might take you through some pretty rough terrain to get there but trust me to me it is worth the trip for you to go. this is the last pic i got. :tup:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Fish4Fun on September 16, 2011, 12:15:56 PM
11"21' North latitude and 142" 12' East longitude, or 90° North latitude 142 East Longitude. not hunting either spot this year, anyone that wants go ahead a punch it in your GPS and hit the road. GPS might take you through some pretty rough terrain to get there but trust me to me it is worth the trip for you to go. this is the last pic i got. :tup:

Starr, just like following the radio bite when fishing   :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: starr on September 16, 2011, 02:45:43 PM
i didnt say i got the pic from either spot, it was just the last pic i got, right before i posted it i found it on a website. so it was honestly the last pic i got. If anyone wants to come on here and try to take a honey hole from someone let them drive to mine.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: dirty24d on September 16, 2011, 10:15:23 PM
Nothing better than complaining about people on Internet sites giving out info.... On an Internet hunting site.

Oh the Irony...  LOL

Good Call!   :tup:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Alan K on September 16, 2011, 10:37:50 PM
Quote
Thank you for reminding us all why Washington should go to draw only for elk.

Exactly what I was thinking earlier today but I refrained from saying such a thing as it usually doesn't go over very well.   :chuckle:

I agree as well.  Draw only for the entire state for bulls.  Then open up over the counter cow tags for specific units.

All I know about hunting the east side is that I will never do it.  Unless of course I draw the multi-season elk permit and manage to draw a tag for branched bulls.  As far as the west side goes, there is no reason in my opinion that a person shouldn't be able to kill a bull once every couple years in any general season western WA unit.  Elk hunting is tough, that's why so many people revel elk hunting over deer hunting.  It's more of an accomplishment if you kill a bull than almost any buck.  Put the work in and the hunting really isn't that hard.  There's no reason for a permit only elk season unless you want essentially a guaranteed kill like in the Toutle unit.   :bdid:

If you want a good chance at an elk, put the work in.  Don't screw the guys that do work hard and get bulls nearly every year by pushing for permit only because you don't work hard enough to harvest one.  Sorry, that's the honest truth in my opinion.  :twocents:

And this post is in no way directed at you personally TheHunt, just the mentality of permit only elk hunting in general.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Antlershed on September 17, 2011, 12:12:56 PM
Killed a cow in the winston last night. Would give the gps coordinates, but I forgot my gps.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 18, 2011, 07:23:32 PM
Well, I for one think you guys are way off base here.  I mean, for example, I have no problem at all directing people to the Colockum for elk hunting. 

I mean, there are THOUSANDS of big bulls in there, and I think the last I heard spike bulls made up about 40% of the overall population.
If you are a new elk hunter, then you should go hunt the Colockum.  If you are putting in for a special draw quality bull permit, you should put in for the Colockum.  Cow Tags?  Colockum's got jillions of them.  If you are thinking of giving muzzleloader or bow hunting a try for the first time, you should hunt the Colockum.  If you get drawn for the Incentive Tag or the Raffle Tag, I would spend 99.999999% of my time in the Colockum.  Governor's Tag?  If I were Doyle Moss, I'd bring my high-dollar-dude into the Colockum.
Listen, if I were greedy, or didn't think there were enough elk to go around, I would do this, but c'mon... It's like an elk-zoo in there.... :tup: :tup:

colockum is gonna send his black helicopters after you...you know he has the elk all penned behind a high fence in there....now you are gonna send everyone in there and he is gonna need more bigfoots to keep them out ....his bigfoot army will just keep growing at this rate

I am not going to worry about it.  I just came up with a little bit of interesting information;  turns out all those "bigfoots" in the Colockum that he is always taling about... yeah, they're "high fence" bigfoots!  >:( Colockumelk is breeding them and taking pictures of them to scare people out of the area!  I am tellin' you guys... don't fall for the hype.  Colockum's the place to be.... :tup:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: conwaydave on September 18, 2011, 07:55:03 PM
I have killed 5 bull elk on Manashtash Ridge in 25 yrs of hunting. I think the unit is 342.   Ready..... Set....GO  Go get em boys!  :hello:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: saylean on September 20, 2011, 08:14:41 PM
I havent got the chance to chime in, and I am sure that my thread was one of the ones that bothered this thread creator.

GMU's are big places and there are game in most of them. If someone wants to come hunt a GMU cause I was successful (even though the overall rate is dog doo for that GMU), more power to them. Im not necassarily going to give away my exact position, but a 20 or 30 square mile or more area....meh....good luck! Those hills are killers on the legs....or are they?! :chuckle: :tup:

On a side note...I get to pick up my elk meat this week from the butcher.... :cue:

Good luck to all you hunters, regardless of where you are going....lead by example and post them success pics...

Oh..and PM me the co ordinates....

Cheers.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: billythekidrock on September 21, 2011, 05:20:49 AM
Saylean startin' chit?
 
 :chuckle:
 
Congrats on the elk.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: boneaddict on September 21, 2011, 05:35:33 AM
If you figure out where you hunt because of whats posted on the internet.......You suck.  I also imagine your success rate will suck worse.   

(thats not directed at the OP, but is a statement in general)

a bit of tongue and cheek folks, not really one of those bold statements you have to get fired up about.   :)

Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Miles on September 21, 2011, 05:46:58 AM
If you figure out where you hunt because of whats posted on the internet.......You suck.  I also imagine your success rate will suck worse.   

(thats not directed at the OP, but is a statement in general)

a bit of tongue and cheek folks, not really one of those bold statements you have to get fired up about.   :)



 :chuckle:


You know someone is viciously trying to free themselves from their own underwear that suddenly got all knotted up after reading "You suck". 

I'm sure once their hands are free, they'll be banging away at the keyboard.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: boneaddict on September 21, 2011, 05:52:58 AM
 :chuckle:
I figured I'd be the one adding a little jet fuel to the conversation this morning.   
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: KillBilly on September 21, 2011, 06:23:08 AM
Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!

Get a life, what business is it of yours anyway?
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: deerslyr on September 21, 2011, 09:29:52 AM
Tell me how you really feel killbilly  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 21, 2011, 12:42:20 PM
If you figure out where you hunt because of whats posted on the internet.......You suck.  I also imagine your success rate will suck worse.   

(thats not directed at the OP, but is a statement in general)

a bit of tongue and cheek folks, not really one of those bold statements you have to get fired up about.   :)


How come we don't have a "can of worms" emotiocon.... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Good point Bone :tup:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: h20hunter on September 21, 2011, 12:58:51 PM
This is still going? Can't wait to shoot a rabbit this evening.....I'm so gonna post a google earth screen shot with one of those little yellow thumbtacks showing where.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Glockster on September 21, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
Ok, I'm done venting.  Hopefully I didn't offend anyone and I hope you get where I'm coming from.
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Uh no where are you coming from, you dont have a location on your profile.... :chuckle:


SHhhhhhh.....it's a secret.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: KillBilly on September 21, 2011, 01:40:38 PM
This is still going? Can't wait to shoot a rabbit this evening.....I'm so gonna post a google earth screen shot with one of those little yellow thumbtacks showing where.

Please do, I haven't seen a rabbit all season... Have you seen any grouse? Send me those coordinates too please. Semper Fi
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: buckhorn2 on September 21, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
For me it;s just reading material and I like to see the big bulls of the east side but I am a wet side hunter so GMU;s over there don;t concern me and if it;s a draw permit you might have to wait 10 more years to get the wolves will have them anyway.
Title: Re: Why are people posting where they kill their elk?!
Post by: Glockster on September 21, 2011, 03:25:12 PM
I'll post up a top secret elk unit:  Bethel unit 360.

I have hunted there off and on for over 30yrs and I get my elk every year....when I'm daydreaming about it.   :chuckle: 

Truth is I've never killed an elk there. 

Truth is there are at least two members on this board who post awesome elk camp pictorials about killing an elk there every single season.  One guy is on his 27th or so elk!  Truth is, they got it figured out and what they got figured out (well before there was an internet) is the INet doesn't have a damn bit to do with it! 

Truth #3......WA has more hunters per elk than any state.  Learn to live with that fact.  Hell, even use that fact to your favor!  I bet those two super successful Bethel unit hunters  do.

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