Post by: Craig on November 28, 2011, 06:18:56 PM
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID12/13979.html
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Post by: jager on November 28, 2011, 07:14:01 PM
Looks like this guys big brother....
Post by: nw_bowhunter on November 28, 2011, 07:16:00 PM
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Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 28, 2011, 07:20:53 PM
Post by: yelp on November 28, 2011, 07:41:48 PM
Very nice..Anybody know where?
Colockum. ;)
Post by: SniperDanWA on November 28, 2011, 08:25:46 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on November 28, 2011, 08:56:00 PM
Had to have been for it to be that big. That's a helluva a bull! Congrats to him!Very nice..Anybody know where?
Colockum. ;)
Post by: igotbigbulls on November 28, 2011, 08:57:08 PM
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Post by: washingtonmuley on November 29, 2011, 07:16:58 AM
You can kill any sized trophy if you have enough money, I like looking at pictures of a 300" bull that a local hunted hard for 6 days or so to harvest. Not some trophy that some rich you know what paid out the rear for. :twocents:I agree with you 100% brother.
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 29, 2011, 09:41:28 AM
The bull they were after had broken his main beam about midway..... This was their "second choice" bull..... Crazy isn't it. Looks real similar to the one Agnew shot a couple of years ago. :yike:
I was thinking the same thing. I am pretty sure this bull was taken off the same mountain.
Post by: igotbigbulls on November 29, 2011, 09:41:59 AM
Post by: slim9300 on November 29, 2011, 09:53:07 AM
Funny thing about this elk being a Mossback bull... I was told a story in September about some Mossback guys blocking roads in the Blues because a big bull was in the area and one of there clients was following it. Never heard anything else about it and never asked around because I didnt think Mossback had any interest in Washington elk... Heard they just parked right in the road and wouldnt move... :dunno:
I would have pushed their truck out of the way just out of principle. Lol
Post by: slim9300 on November 29, 2011, 09:55:20 AM
he probobly spent more on that bull hunt ,then most people on here make in a year.working there ass off. :twocents:
Good for him. That's what's great about this country. Maybe someday I will be in his position. In the meantime I will keep busting my a$$ to excel.
Post by: 724wd on November 29, 2011, 10:01:39 AM
wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes? i can't see them calling this bull in, if it was a recent kill, and locals will usually gladly put you on a great bull when you draw a tag.
Post by: bearpaw on November 29, 2011, 10:43:50 AM
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Post by: slim9300 on November 29, 2011, 12:12:39 PM
beautiful bull!
wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes? i can't see them calling this bull in, if it was a recent kill, and locals will usually gladly put you on a great bull when you draw a tag.
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Post by: bullchaser on November 29, 2011, 01:34:24 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 29, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
come on Plat. dan agnew killed all the big bulls out of the blues. must be colockum. :chuckle:
Oh yes I remember now :bash: Thats why he has now moved on to kill all them New Mexico Bulls. Definitely a Colockum bull. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: 724wd on November 29, 2011, 01:47:06 PM
beautiful bull!
wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes? i can't see them calling this bull in, if it was a recent kill, and locals will usually gladly put you on a great bull when you draw a tag.
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
yeah, i get the manpower thing, but if i had the dough to buy a tag like that, wouldn't you want your friends and family helping, not a bunch of guys you don't know? if you're running that much $$ in your wallet, your buddies probably aren't the line cook/greasemonkeys that usually help us out on hunts. Your rich friends can't take a little time off to help you locate a nice bull?
I guess i don't get the hiring of a guide service thing (no offense Bearpaw! ;) ) i do know i'm envious as hell this fella can afford the dough to play like that, and give him a big :tup: on a great bull!
Post by: Alchase on November 29, 2011, 01:49:09 PM
Either way
Beautiful bull!!
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 29, 2011, 01:54:38 PM
They would make a ton more money if they offered that tag in a lottery for $10.00, $20.00, even $30.00 a ticket open to everyone, not just the rich. So I have my doubts that the money they make is the "motivating factor" in having these auction tags.
Either way
Beautiful bull!!
:yeah: Treat it just like the lotto or powerball and they would probably make a killing! :chuckle:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 29, 2011, 01:56:32 PM
They would make a ton more money if they offered that tag in a lottery for $10.00, $20.00, even $30.00 a ticket open to everyone, not just the rich. So I have my doubts that the money they make is the "motivating factor" in having these auction tags.
Either way
Beautiful bull!!
:yeah: Treat it just like the lotto or powerball and they would probably make a killing! :chuckle:
They pretty much already do that. Eastside Elk Raffle Tag...?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on November 29, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
I got word it was taken in park canyon.. :dunno:Very nice..Anybody know where?
Colockum. ;)
Post by: coachcw on November 29, 2011, 02:35:33 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2011, 02:42:57 PM
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
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mtncook
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Post by: slim9300 on November 30, 2011, 07:58:54 AM
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
Well, considering I talked with two of the Mossback staff when they were in Lacey, what did I say that was ignorant or incorrect? I asked the guys how they consistently get their hunters the biggest bulls since I was curious. Was he lying? Or are you just butt-hurt that I think it's "sad." Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never said it should be illegal or even that it was wrong. Did you miss the lol?
Go back and read my posts. I expressed my sincere congratulations to the hunter and even "stood up" for his ability to purchase the Governer's tag.
I think it may actually be people like you that keep people from joining and contributing to sites likes these. Nothing like stifling people's opinions and calling names. Get a life.
Post by: washingtonmuley on November 30, 2011, 08:05:41 AM
Post by: Recurve-Elk on November 30, 2011, 11:16:33 AM
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2011, 12:46:27 PM
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
Well, considering I talked with two of the Mossback staff when they were in Lacey, what did I say that was ignorant or incorrect? I asked the guys how they consistently get their hunters the biggest bulls since I was curious. Was he lying? Or are you just butt-hurt that I think it's "sad." Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never said it should be illegal or even that it was wrong. Did you miss the lol?
Go back and read my posts. I expressed my sincere congratulations to the hunter and even "stood up" for his ability to purchase the Governer's tag.
I think it may actually be people like you that keep people from joining and contributing to sites likes these. Nothing like stifling people's opinions and calling names. Get a life.
Yes Slim, IGNORANT! There were not 10 guys out there surrounding the area looking for a bull. Get your facts strait before spewing BS rumors.
Post by: KillBilly on November 30, 2011, 12:57:28 PM
he probobly spent more on that bull hunt ,then most people on here make in a year.working there ass off. :twocents:
and your point is...... next time you go hunting check with everyone to see how much they want you to spend.
Post by: Woodchuck on November 30, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
:yeah: No there was not any where near 10 at any point I saw them or other people I know saw them. By all accounts the crew and the tag holder seemed to be pretty good guys.
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
Well, considering I talked with two of the Mossback staff when they were in Lacey, what did I say that was ignorant or incorrect? I asked the guys how they consistently get their hunters the biggest bulls since I was curious. Was he lying? Or are you just butt-hurt that I think it's "sad." Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never said it should be illegal or even that it was wrong. Did you miss the lol?
Go back and read my posts. I expressed my sincere congratulations to the hunter and even "stood up" for his ability to purchase the Governer's tag.
I think it may actually be people like you that keep people from joining and contributing to sites likes these. Nothing like stifling people's opinions and calling names. Get a life.
Yes Slim, IGNORANT! There were not 10 guys out there surrounding the area looking for a bull. Get your facts strait before spewing BS rumors.
Post by: slim9300 on November 30, 2011, 02:07:10 PM
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
Well, considering I talked with two of the Mossback staff when they were in Lacey, what did I say that was ignorant or incorrect? I asked the guys how they consistently get their hunters the biggest bulls since I was curious. Was he lying? Or are you just butt-hurt that I think it's "sad." Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never said it should be illegal or even that it was wrong. Did you miss the lol?
Go back and read my posts. I expressed my sincere congratulations to the hunter and even "stood up" for his ability to purchase the Governer's tag.
I think it may actually be people like you that keep people from joining and contributing to sites likes these. Nothing like stifling people's opinions and calling names. Get a life.
Yes Slim, IGNORANT! There were not 10 guys out there surrounding the area looking for a bull. Get your facts strait before spewing BS rumors.
Look buddy. I think you are confused. I never said that this hunter had 10 Mossback guys scouting / helping on his hunt. I know nothing about this specific hunt. I was actually referring specifically to the Spider bull and Mossback's involvement with it. Are you going to say that there weren't multiple Mossback guys keeping track of that bull and locating him for their hunter? The guy I responded to asked a GENERAL question about the advantages of an outfit like Mossback and that's what I was referring to. It may not be the norm for them but they are famous (or infamous depending on how you look at it) for doing it and they have the manpower to do things like that if you pay them to. Is it clear now? None of this was directed at the guy who killed this bull or his hunt.
This is what was asked.
wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes? i can't see them calling this bull in, if it was a recent kill, and locals will usually gladly put you on a great bull when you draw a tag.
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2011, 02:33:41 PM
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
Well, considering I talked with two of the Mossback staff when they were in Lacey, what did I say that was ignorant or incorrect? I asked the guys how they consistently get their hunters the biggest bulls since I was curious. Was he lying? Or are you just butt-hurt that I think it's "sad." Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never said it should be illegal or even that it was wrong. Did you miss the lol?
Go back and read my posts. I expressed my sincere congratulations to the hunter and even "stood up" for his ability to purchase the Governer's tag.
I think it may actually be people like you that keep people from joining and contributing to sites likes these. Nothing like stifling people's opinions and calling names. Get a life.
Yes Slim, IGNORANT! There were not 10 guys out there surrounding the area looking for a bull. Get your facts strait before spewing BS rumors.
Look buddy. I think you are confused. I never said that this hunter had 10 Mossback guys scouting / helping on his hunt. I know nothing about this specific hunt. I was actually referring specifically to the Spider bull and Mossback's involvement with it. Are you going to say that there weren't multiple Mossback guys keeping track of that bull and locating him for their hunter? The guy I responded to asked a GENERAL question about the advantages of an outfit like Mossback and that's what I was referring to. It may not be the norm for them but they are famous (or infamous depending on how you look at it) for doing it and they have the manpower to do things like that if you pay them to. Is it clear now? None of this was directed at the guy who killed this bull or his hunt.
This is what was asked.wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes? i can't see them calling this bull in, if it was a recent kill, and locals will usually gladly put you on a great bull when you draw a tag.
724 WD was referring to this bull and this hunt specifically, to which you replied to his question. It very much looks like you were also referring to this hunt, resulting in my comment.
If you were referring to a different hunt and a different thread then perhaps it would be wise to clarify so as not to inadvertently mislead anyone that may be reading about this particular hunt. :dunno:
Post by: slim9300 on November 30, 2011, 02:46:19 PM
Imagine 10 guys working full time across a large area to locate a certain bull and keep tabs on him. It's actually kind of sad. Lol
Actually what's really quite sad slim is ignorant, speculated, comments like this that keep these guys from joining sites and sharing pics and stories of their hunts. :twocents:
Well, considering I talked with two of the Mossback staff when they were in Lacey, what did I say that was ignorant or incorrect? I asked the guys how they consistently get their hunters the biggest bulls since I was curious. Was he lying? Or are you just butt-hurt that I think it's "sad." Am I not entitled to my opinion? I never said it should be illegal or even that it was wrong. Did you miss the lol?
Go back and read my posts. I expressed my sincere congratulations to the hunter and even "stood up" for his ability to purchase the Governer's tag.
I think it may actually be people like you that keep people from joining and contributing to sites likes these. Nothing like stifling people's opinions and calling names. Get a life.
Yes Slim, IGNORANT! There were not 10 guys out there surrounding the area looking for a bull. Get your facts strait before spewing BS rumors.
Look buddy. I think you are confused. I never said that this hunter had 10 Mossback guys scouting / helping on his hunt. I know nothing about this specific hunt. I was actually referring specifically to the Spider bull and Mossback's involvement with it. Are you going to say that there weren't multiple Mossback guys keeping track of that bull and locating him for their hunter? The guy I responded to asked a GENERAL question about the advantages of an outfit like Mossback and that's what I was referring to. It may not be the norm for them but they are famous (or infamous depending on how you look at it) for doing it and they have the manpower to do things like that if you pay them to. Is it clear now? None of this was directed at the guy who killed this bull or his hunt.
This is what was asked.wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes? i can't see them calling this bull in, if it was a recent kill, and locals will usually gladly put you on a great bull when you draw a tag.
724 WD was referring to this bull and this hunt specifically, to which you replied to his question. It very much looks like you were also referring to this hunt, resulting in my comment.
If you were referring to a different hunt and a different thread then perhaps it would be wise to clarify so as not to inadvertently mislead anyone that may be reading about this particular hunt. :dunno:
Either your reading comprehension is poor or you are just trying to be stubborn, but the main question he posed was a general one. That is obvious.
wondering what an outfit like mossback offers a hunter? just more eyes?
When he says "a hunter," he means in general, what do they offer their clients or at least that's how it came across. Not specifically this guy in WA. Is it that hard to interpret? Maybe we read it differently. IDK.
Post by: 724wd on November 30, 2011, 03:44:38 PM
the main question he posed was a general one.
When he says "a hunter," he means in general, what do they offer their clients or at least that's how it came across. Not specifically this guy in WA. Is it that hard to interpret? Maybe we read it differently. IDK.
:yeah: i was wondering in general why a person of means would hire an outfit of guys he doesnt know rather than gather some buds and hit the woods until you find the bull you like. i get that after shelling out that much money one might be compelled to shoot the biggest bull possible, but if inches are all you're after, why not hit the elk farms? maybe it's just me that cherishes time spent afield with family and friends over inches of bone you can't (or at least shouldn't :chuckle: ) eat.
but who knows, maybe my opinion would change if i bought a Gov tag... anyone wanna spot me? :lol4: i can't make an informed decision until i've tried both sides! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bone head on November 30, 2011, 04:22:40 PM
on how they hunt and run their outfitt and its a top notch crew and some of the nicest guys you could ever meet or talk to. Maybe just maybe we can find the bull next year that we have the sheds off of the last two years. Again
I had a blast helping out and enjoyed every moment i was over there. Congrats to Mossback on another 400 under their belt lol haters can hate but it wont make you a better hunter thats for sure
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Alan K on November 30, 2011, 06:12:31 PM
If I had 30k laying around (just a guess what it cost him, maybe more, maybe less?) I know I wouldn't spend it all on one tag. I'd take all of October and November off and buy landowner tags in states where the tags are good for the entire units and go get it done on public land DIY in great units. Might not be blasting 400" bulls, or 200" bucks on all the tags, but I'd be dropping 340"+ bulls and 180-190" bucks for two months and that would be much more of a blast for me!
Post by: Bigtine96 on November 30, 2011, 06:40:11 PM
Post by: Ironhead on November 30, 2011, 07:18:37 PM
Most Rich people had to work their asses of for their money too. I don't understand why people are so down on someone that gives so much for the states wildlife.
Post by: Maverick on November 30, 2011, 08:07:36 PM
Post by: bearpaw on November 30, 2011, 08:18:57 PM
Great bull Kevin...you paid your dues (money and time in the woods) so congratulations. Pay no heed to those on this site who are jealous. One day they may learn that life is so much easier when you quit worrying about making other peoples values match your own.
I agree it's a hell of a bull and thanks for your contribution to wildlife management. I just don't understand the jealousy factor that some people exhibit.
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2011, 08:26:47 PM
But if it were me I'd feel a whole lot better earning that bull and hunting with friends and family rather then just writing a check.
He didn't buy a trophy, he bought the opportunity to hunt. He had two guys and a gal with him on his hunt, no different than the majority of us would have had if we had drawn the raffle tag. :twocents:
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on November 30, 2011, 08:31:58 PM
I understand some people don't agree with the way this bull was killed but it really surprises me when it bothers them so much that they can't even comment on what an exceptional animal this is...dead or alive. I guess it depends on what one focuses on. To me it is about the animal (which is exceptional regardless of who killed it or how it was killed) and not the hunter. Even if the animal was poached it wouldn't take anything away from how exceptional the animal truly is. In this case it is an exceptional animal taken legally by a very fortunate hunter....and I don't care how many eyes you have on one these animals anyone who hunts them knows bulls like this don't come easy. The hunt still has to happen and there is no guarantee of success. Certainly, his odds of success are increased by 1. Having the Governors Tag. 2. Having experienced help. 3. Hunting in areas where exceptional animals live. 4. Having a significant amount of time to hunt.
I don't see this hunter on here telling everyone about what a great hunter he is and how he can hunt better than anyone. I am sure he knows he is very fortunate for the opportunities he has been able to create in his life.
I know the area where two world class whitetail live right now. I have multiple trail cameras (kind of like the guides locating the bulls in this case) in the areas they live. I have dedicated over 400 hours of scouting. I am blessed with a job that gives me a good amount of time off (Military), a wife that is a hunter herself and understands what drives me and thus have been able to spend untold hours in a treestand hunting just these two animals....I have all of this and I still haven't got it done.... because it is still hunting and there is no guarantee of success.
For those who say they could get it done under similar circumstances as this guy...Yes...it is quite possible that you could....but I don't really understand the point you are trying to make??
If you love hunting and you have the "means" that this guy has I am sure you would use your "means" legally to help increase your odds of success. It may not be what this guy did but I am sure that whatever you chose somebody would criticize it...heck...there is probably people on this site right now who will criticize you for how you currently hunt.
What it all really boils down to is jealousy. I know I'm jealous...man what a bull. :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: Guy on November 30, 2011, 08:57:26 PM
Congrats to the hunter. :tup:
Post by: 724wd on November 30, 2011, 11:09:30 PM
I have NO doubt this hunter hunted his butt off and was was successful in killing a dream bull, and I truly am happy for him. Do i wish i had the money and opportunity to do the same? You Bet!
after my previous posts, many have come to the table with great first hand information that this guy was in fact hunting with friends and relatives. to be able to share the experience of hunting a bull of this caliber with those close to you makes me doubly jealous.
again, congrats to the hunter! :tup:
Post by: slim9300 on December 01, 2011, 12:15:25 PM
never let it be said i don't think for one second this hunter didn't hunt hard and earn this trophy! am i jealous? you bet! I think it would be AWESOME to have the cash to buy the governors tag! but buying a tag isn't the same as just buying a trophy bull.
I have NO doubt this hunter hunted his butt off and was was successful in killing a dream bull, and I truly am happy for him. Do i wish i had the money and opportunity to do the same? You Bet!
after my previous posts, many have come to the table with great first hand information that this guy was in fact hunting with friends and relatives. to be able to share the experience of hunting a bull of this caliber with those close to you makes me doubly jealous.
again, congrats to the hunter! :tup:
Just to be clear, I feel the same way.
Good post.
Post by: MtnMuley on December 01, 2011, 12:24:44 PM
But if it were me I'd feel a whole lot better earning that bull and hunting with friends and family rather then just writing a check.
He didn't buy a trophy, he bought the opportunity to hunt. He had two guys and a gal with him on his hunt, no different than the majority of us would have had if we had drawn the raffle tag. :twocents:
Are you implying wastickslinger is a chick?! :chuckle:
Bull of a lifetime. Congrats to the hunter. It's his tag, and he can plan and execute his hunt any way he wants. Don't hate the player, hate the game if you feel that way. I don't see the game changing anytime soon. :twocents:
Post by: xxlx7 on December 01, 2011, 12:28:02 PM
My :twocents:
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Post by: Bluesdude on December 01, 2011, 01:48:47 PM
I gotta tell ya Kevin, that's a damn good one! I gotta say, instead of attacking this guy, i bet all us guys could learn alot from this hunter, he hunts his butt off each year, and for sure earns what he harvests. Yes, he has some money to buy some great tags to give him the OPPORTUNITY to hunt, he doesn't buy his trophy, he buys the OPPORTUNITY to earn a trophy. Each year we see the same whining about someone who is fortunate enough to be able to earn a great animal. Why can't we all just tell kevin he got a great animal, who cares if someone helped him, who cares what tag he has, who cares how much money he spent, cause none of that matters. When we harvest an animal, we need to thank the animal for allowing us to harvest it, and thank ourselves for harvesting an animal for more than just a trophy....
My :twocents:
:yeah:
I went to High School with Kevin and his brother, so I know first hand what kind of guy he is. I would do the same thing If I could afford to. He has been hunting for a bull off and on since the late summer/early fall. He didnt buy that bull, he bought the opportunity to go and find one. The area where he shot that nice bull is steep and deep, I know alot of guys who couldnt handle hunting in that kind of terrain one day much less weeks on end.
Post by: slim9300 on December 01, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
I gotta tell ya Kevin, that's a damn good one! I gotta say, instead of attacking this guy, i bet all us guys could learn alot from this hunter, he hunts his butt off each year, and for sure earns what he harvests. Yes, he has some money to buy some great tags to give him the OPPORTUNITY to hunt, he doesn't buy his trophy, he buys the OPPORTUNITY to earn a trophy. Each year we see the same whining about someone who is fortunate enough to be able to earn a great animal. Why can't we all just tell kevin he got a great animal, who cares if someone helped him, who cares what tag he has, who cares how much money he spent, cause none of that matters. When we harvest an animal, we need to thank the animal for allowing us to harvest it, and thank ourselves for harvesting an animal for more than just a trophy....
My :twocents:
:yeah:
I went to High School with Kevin and his brother, so I know first hand what kind of guy he is. I would do the same thing If I could afford to. He has been hunting for a bull off and on since the late summer/early fall. He didnt buy that bull, he bought the opportunity to go and find one. The area where he shot that nice bull is steep and deep, I know alot of guys who couldnt handle hunting in that kind of terrain one day much less weeks on end.
I think you are the first one to point out that he won the tag via the raffle and didn't buy it. That's funny considering all the conjecture.
Post by: jager on December 01, 2011, 05:31:05 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on December 01, 2011, 07:20:15 PM
Post by: slim9300 on December 01, 2011, 08:03:05 PM
He bought the tag. "Auction tag." Another member won the raffle tag. I mean extremely lucky member!
Kinda figured. Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on December 01, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
Post by: mtncook on December 01, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
mtncook
Post by: woodywsu on December 02, 2011, 12:54:35 PM
Post by: kramer on December 02, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on December 02, 2011, 10:16:51 PM
Post by: 400out on December 02, 2011, 10:24:49 PM
He bought the tag. "Auction tag." Another member won the raffle tag. I mean extremely lucky member!You can say that again :drool: :chuckle: :drool: :chuckle:
Post by: NumaJohn on December 02, 2011, 10:49:49 PM
Envy is different than jealousy, in my view. I envy someone when I think he or she deserves what they got but I wish that I had gotten that thing, too.
Jealously is when I think someone doesn't deserve whatever it is she or he has gotten. So, assuming this distinction, I am curious whether people are envious of this hunter (apparently named Kevin) or jealous? Me, I'm envious!
John
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 02, 2011, 11:05:16 PM
Jealousy is reflecting a persons attitude towards another person. This would be those who focused on the hunter and his situation. It is an emotional rivalry. "if I had that tag I could do that too".... that's jealousy
Envy: are those of who express feelings towards his accomplishment. Though envy can also be resentment towards his accomplishment.
How bout this... I "covet" his accomplishment...as in I feel "blameworthy desire" and "wish longingly" to down a bull like that!!! :chuckle:
Post by: NumaJohn on December 02, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 02, 2011, 11:12:41 PM
Post by: BENCHLEG on December 02, 2011, 11:24:21 PM
Post by: Caseyd on December 03, 2011, 12:19:19 AM
Congrats Kevin you earned that toad, you put some miles on yourself looking for him. I enjoyed helping you and getting to know you and John and Doyle. And for Mossback i herd tons of negative rumors
on how they hunt and run their outfitt and its a top notch crew and some of the nicest guys you could ever meet or talk to. Maybe just maybe we can find the bull next year that we have the sheds off of the last two years. Again
I had a blast helping out and enjoyed every moment i was over there. Congrats to Mossback on another 400 under their belt lol haters can hate but it wont make you a better hunter thats for sure
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I'd love to see pics.......maybe compare to 3 seasons ago ;)
Post by: Bigtine96 on December 03, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
i am not jaelous at all . and for this hunt good job. all im saying is show me sweat blood and tears and i will like what i see. this is a general statement for all tags purchased with big money. i dont hate you i just want to see meat and sweat on your back, especially in hell hole . :twocents: :twocents:
Well said sir :tup:
Post by: ridgefire on December 03, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 03, 2011, 08:12:27 PM
hang me but i have no respect for this bull because of the fact that mossback was involved.. they can stay in utard as far as im concerned. if it was a tag drawn in the normal draw and the hunter hunted it diy or with a local guide i would be stoked for him but he must have :dunno:figured the locals must not be good enough
Why would any of that make you not respect the bull? The bull just grew antlers that are far beyond exceptional and had nothing to do with the tag or guiding process. Even if the bull was poached I would have a lot of respect for an animal that is that exceptional. :dunno:
Post by: bone head on December 03, 2011, 08:41:22 PM
hang me but i have no respect for this bull because of the fact that mossback was involved.. they can stay in utard as far as im concerned. if it was a tag drawn in the normal draw and the hunter hunted it diy or with a local guide i would be stoked for him but he must have :dunno:figured the locals must not be good enoughknow the facts before your a?? over loads your mouth. there were locals involved
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 03, 2011, 08:54:21 PM
Post by: ridgefire on December 03, 2011, 09:11:30 PM
Post by: big wood on December 03, 2011, 09:19:16 PM