Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 11:55:47 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 26, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Post by: 75johndeere on March 26, 2012, 12:37:35 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 12:45:28 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2012, 12:47:22 PM
:stirthepot:
Post by: farmin4u_98948 on March 26, 2012, 12:51:39 PM
Indians.
:stirthepot:
White Trash :stirthepot: :stirthepot:
Post by: Curly on March 26, 2012, 12:52:31 PM
Post by: rasbo on March 26, 2012, 12:53:52 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2012, 12:54:15 PM
Post by: TheHunt on March 26, 2012, 12:54:26 PM
Post by: gotshot on March 26, 2012, 12:54:54 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2012, 12:55:21 PM
Big foot
:chuckle: Beat ya.
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 12:56:28 PM
one day I will catch one of these morons,Josh was it off the one rd,them edges along the private proprty get hit hard,I found a bull yrs back just the horns taken
Not far from the one road. It was up the 15 road.
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 12:58:52 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2012, 01:01:41 PM
It was skinned and boned out, missing the front shoulders too.
So all the meat was taken?
Post by: christopheri on March 26, 2012, 01:07:53 PM
Not going to point a finger at any group in particular... but it was near where I had been seeing a bunch of brush pickers...
So do the brush pickers have to pay the 350 dollar Trespass fee too?
Post by: Tbar on March 26, 2012, 01:11:54 PM
Post by: gotshot on March 26, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 01:14:56 PM
It was skinned and boned out, missing the front shoulders too.
So all the meat was taken?
Pretty much.
Post by: gotshot on March 26, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Post by: gotshot on March 26, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 02:02:50 PM
Its amazing to me how many people convict somebody without proof. You said the cow was poached? Any bullet holes? My guess is no. Because I came across a cow on the 15 road last week, dead in the ditch. Coyotes had just started eating on it. They started on the left front shoulder and were working their way back. Please know the facts before spouting off next time :bash:
Did know coyotes used knives to cut perfectly straight lines around the lower leg just where a person would start skinning. Also when I've seen animals eaton by yotes the yotes generally tear up the bones pretty good. To me this looked like an animal carcass after it had been boned out. Plus I've never seen an animal die of natural causes right in the road like that. I never blamed anyone.You are awful testy. Got something on your conscious?
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 26, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
Gotshot I was not pointing you out. I was pointing out the thread title for one, and the guy blaming the brush pickers. Lets pretend the elk was poached and wasn't a lion kill. He saw brush pickers in the area so he blamed them. No evidence who did it. I was in the area so why not blame me?You should go back and re-read Grundy's post that you are referring too, that begins with "Not going to point a finger....."
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
Gotshot I was not pointing you out. I was pointing out the thread title for one, and the guy blaming the brush pickers. Lets pretend the elk was poached and wasn't a lion kill. He saw brush pickers in the area so he blamed them. No evidence who did it. I was in the area so why not blame me?
Sure, why not? I've seen a lot of dead critters and to me this looked like it was proccessed by a human. I could be wrong it's happened before. I bet the game warden will be able to tell the difference. I would rather report it and have it be a natural death then not report it and have it turn out to be poached. Sorry you got your panties in a bunch.
Post by: jackmaster on March 26, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 03:12:55 PM
Gotshot I was not pointing you out. I was pointing out the thread title for one, and the guy blaming the brush pickers. Lets pretend the elk was poached and wasn't a lion kill. He saw brush pickers in the area so he blamed them. No evidence who did it. I was in the area so why not blame me?You should go back and re-read Grundy's post that you are referring too, that begins with "Not going to point a finger....."
...but I did see brush pickers in the area of an elk that died of natural causes. If he isn't pointing fingers why bring them into it?
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 03:15:34 PM
branden, wow dude, way come off on the wrong foot, hows come ya aint gettn pissed when it was blamed on bigfoots or aliens? maybe it was brush pickers maybe it was white no good trash, maybe even an indian, no harm in speculation no need to get in a twist over someones thread, you will be alright, NEED A HUG. :chuckle:
The thing that irritates me is that it wasn't poached in the first place. Then I see a guy say he is not pointing fingers but.... If it was aliens or bigfoot then that isn't poaching cause that is natural ;)
Post by: h20hunter on March 26, 2012, 03:18:49 PM
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Did know coyotes used knives to cut perfectly straight lines around the lower leg just where a person would start skinning. Also when I've seen animals eaton by yotes the yotes generally tear up the bones pretty good. To me this looked like an animal carcass after it had been boned out. Plus I've never seen an animal die of natural causes right in the road like that. I never blamed anyone.You are awful testy. Got something on your conscious?
The first day it was barely eaten on the front left shoulder. The next day it was ate way more down the left side, up the side of the neck, and the guts were ate and pulled out.
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2012, 03:20:56 PM
Did know coyotes used knives to cut perfectly straight lines around the lower leg just where a person would start skinning. Also when I've seen animals eaton by yotes the yotes generally tear up the bones pretty good. To me this looked like an animal carcass after it had been boned out. Plus I've never seen an animal die of natural causes right in the road like that. I never blamed anyone.You are awful testy. Got something on your conscious?
The first day it was barely eaten on the front left shoulder. The next day it was ate way more down the left side, up the side of the neck, and the guts were ate and pulled out.
How do you know he's talking about the same elk you're talking about? Couldn't there be more than one dead elk in that area?
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 26, 2012, 03:21:04 PM
Go ahead, keep inserting in your interpretation of others words if it makes you feel better.Gotshot I was not pointing you out. I was pointing out the thread title for one, and the guy blaming the brush pickers. Lets pretend the elk was poached and wasn't a lion kill. He saw brush pickers in the area so he blamed them. No evidence who did it. I was in the area so why not blame me?You should go back and re-read Grundy's post that you are referring too, that begins with "Not going to point a finger....."
...but I did see brush pickers in the area of an elk that died of natural causes. If he isn't pointing fingers why bring them into it?
"I did see natural things around an un-natural elk kill." I'm not very good at it, how did I do?
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 26, 2012, 03:22:14 PM
That would be impossible Bobcat..... :chuckle:
Did know coyotes used knives to cut perfectly straight lines around the lower leg just where a person would start skinning. Also when I've seen animals eaton by yotes the yotes generally tear up the bones pretty good. To me this looked like an animal carcass after it had been boned out. Plus I've never seen an animal die of natural causes right in the road like that. I never blamed anyone.You are awful testy. Got something on your conscious?
The first day it was barely eaten on the front left shoulder. The next day it was ate way more down the left side, up the side of the neck, and the guts were ate and pulled out.
How do you know he's talking about the same elk you're talking about? Couldn't there be more than one dead elk in that area?
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 03:23:55 PM
Sounds to me like the original post seems to know the difference between a scavenged road kill and a poached animal. Yotes don't make straight cuts in the hide/muscle as he already mentioned.
Lol you are so right. I am wrong. A poacher poached the cow right in the road, left it there with no bullet holes, then came back and ate it piece by piece. I would love to see the person hungry enough to eat the guts before he ate the backstraps or the hind quarters. :bash:
I love all the keyboard jockeys on this site :tup:
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 03:27:03 PM
Did know coyotes used knives to cut perfectly straight lines around the lower leg just where a person would start skinning. Also when I've seen animals eaton by yotes the yotes generally tear up the bones pretty good. To me this looked like an animal carcass after it had been boned out. Plus I've never seen an animal die of natural causes right in the road like that. I never blamed anyone.You are awful testy. Got something on your conscious?
The first day it was barely eaten on the front left shoulder. The next day it was ate way more down the left side, up the side of the neck, and the guts were ate and pulled out.
How do you know he's talking about the same elk you're talking about? Couldn't there be more than one dead elk in that area?
I totally agree there could be. Except that on the same road, close to the 1 road, and killed in the exact same time frame? I hardly see any dead animals on logging roads. Let alone two cow elk, same road, same week? To big of a coincidence.
Post by: 75johndeere on March 26, 2012, 03:28:27 PM
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Post by: Branden on March 26, 2012, 03:29:47 PM
Why mention brushpickers if he wasn't pointing a finger?Go ahead, keep inserting in your interpretation of others words if it makes you feel better....but I did see brush pickers in the area of an elk that died of natural causes. If he isn't pointing fingers why bring them into it?Gotshot I was not pointing you out. I was pointing out the thread title for one, and the guy blaming the brush pickers. Lets pretend the elk was poached and wasn't a lion kill. He saw brush pickers in the area so he blamed them. No evidence who did it. I was in the area so why not blame me?You should go back and re-read Grundy's post that you are referring too, that begins with "Not going to point a finger....."
"I did see natural things around an un-natural elk kill." I'm not very good at it, how did I do?
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2012, 03:30:46 PM
Quote
Why mention brushpickers if he wasn't pointing a finger?
Are you a brush picker? If no, then why do you care?
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 03:32:38 PM
What time did you report it didn't think about it until rereading this thread but I did get stopped by the game warden yesterday and he did quite a bit peeking around in my truck I have no problem with this considering I had nothing to hide but thought it was kinda weird this time of year I don't remember his name but he seemed like a nice guy we b.s. for a bit and he wanted to play with the ar for a second then we bid eachother goodbye
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Post by: vandeman17 on March 26, 2012, 03:35:08 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 26, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Post by: h20hunter on March 26, 2012, 03:42:40 PM
Guess your only mistake was not checking in with Branden and making sure it was ok with him?
:chuckle:
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 26, 2012, 03:43:10 PM
Post by: 400out on March 26, 2012, 03:49:15 PM
There ya go grundy....trying to do the right thing and report what you believe to be a questionable dead animal....probably based on experience and the attempt to use good judgement.:yeah: :chuckle:
Guess your only mistake was not checking in with Branden and making sure it was ok with him?
:chuckle:
Branden :hello: :hello: Better learn to calm down just a hair :twocents:
Post by: h20hunter on March 26, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
"I love all the keyboard jockeys on this site "
A few notes about your own assumptions.
1. Washington has many quality hunts.
2. Most hunters I know are not selfish...a few are I'm sure....but probably not most.
3. Indians as you say do not have free rein. Yes, they have rights and entitlements that some don't, but not free rein.
4. Hunters themselves can and do bring about change. There are many members of this forum that fight for rights, expanded hunting opp, as well as the understanding of current laws..oh, and enforment in the field as well.
5. Regarding your comment about keyboard jockeys..............glass house???
Maybe spend a little time getting to know members of this site, what they contribute here and in the field, sit down with a few of them, go on a hike, have a beer. Then maybe people will listen to your opinion.
Post by: TheHunt on March 26, 2012, 04:56:39 PM
Big foot
:chuckle: Beat ya.
by 11 seconds...
Post by: christopheri on March 26, 2012, 05:07:19 PM
Why mention brushpickers if he wasn't pointing a finger?Go ahead, keep inserting in your interpretation of others words if it makes you feel better....but I did see brush pickers in the area of an elk that died of natural causes. If he isn't pointing fingers why bring them into it?Gotshot I was not pointing you out. I was pointing out the thread title for one, and the guy blaming the brush pickers. Lets pretend the elk was poached and wasn't a lion kill. He saw brush pickers in the area so he blamed them. No evidence who did it. I was in the area so why not blame me?You should go back and re-read Grundy's post that you are referring too, that begins with "Not going to point a finger....."
"I did see natural things around an un-natural elk kill." I'm not very good at it, how did I do?
Ok you are right. It wasnt a brush picker. It was a logger! :yike:
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on March 26, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 26, 2012, 05:55:30 PM
It was Big foot!
What? BobCat and Thehunt both beat me?
:bash: :dunno: :bash: :dunno: :bash: :dunno:
Post by: MooseStock on March 26, 2012, 10:30:34 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on March 26, 2012, 11:10:34 PM
There is a real good chance here that everyone is right. Because it was cut up doesn't necessarily mean it was poached. One of our local game wardens goes to road kill when reported and cuts quarters off of the animals for his cougar traps so it may have been that road kill cow and the warden may have taken the meat for his trapping/tagging use. He does it all the time when the Hancock White River security lets him know of a road kill....if fact he did it last week to a cow that was hit on Highway 410 above Bridge Camp so he may well be doing it at Kapowsin too. I have seen the traps on the White River tree farm in the past and I'm sure they do the same at Kapowsin and Snoqualmie. Hope this helps with the squabble..........Les
I wasn't aware they did that good to know thanks for the information that very well could be reason for the appearance of being boned out.
Post by: predatorpro on March 26, 2012, 11:26:31 PM
Post by: Arteman on March 27, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
dont wanna get everyone all worked up but if an elk was laying there for about 2 weeks...you probly aint gonna see much for skin or meat or any evidence of being cut by a knife....a couple coyotes could lick that thing clean in 4 days....im not saying it was poached or wasnt....no one knows so why dont we drop this and not argue about something that we have no proof on either side...Wierd, been walking past the same winter kill cow elk for the last three weeks shed hunting, nothing like you said. Coyotes must be hungry in your parts. It's pretty much done for now, but 4 days no way.
Post by: kenzmad on March 27, 2012, 09:33:24 PM
Post by: Branden on March 31, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 03, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
Post by: h20hunter on April 03, 2012, 11:47:15 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 03, 2012, 01:20:13 PM
Post by: Branden on April 04, 2012, 12:41:33 AM
I heard the guy who poached it was on here telling people the yotes got it. :chuckle: you don't have anything you want to get off you chest do you branden???
Why would I shoot a cow and leave all the meat on the carcass for animals to eat?
Post by: Branden on April 04, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
I did;nt see it only read it but my 2 cents is Grundy knows elk if he said looked poached I would beleive it was too. As far as brush pickers and fern pickers the game warden told me they haul more stuff oiut in buckets than we do in a truck. They go where they want do what they want and what do you think happens if there caught. ME NO SPEAK ENGLISH. SOLLY
lol this is the exact reason the thread title irritates me so bad. Somebody said it on the internet so it must be true.
Grundy saw it a 1.5 weeks after it died. What do you think animals can do to a carcass in that amount of time? Do you seriously think somebody could tell it was poached without seeing a bullet hole in it after that amount of time?
Post by: CementFinisher on April 04, 2012, 02:22:59 AM
Post by: waoutdoorsman on April 04, 2012, 05:48:30 AM
:boxin: LoL cant we all get along? geesus its like women and facebook:chuckle: Amen to that
Post by: cem3434 on April 04, 2012, 07:56:27 AM
:boxin: LoL cant we all get along? geesus its like women and facebook
+1
Post by: Arteman on April 04, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
I'll show you when I get off work tonight exactly what an Elk looks like a week and a half after its been killed and picked at. Found a archery killed cow this year a week and a half after the season, the hunter must have found it to late, he slit around the knee joint, and cut up the leg to check the meat but must have gone bad so it was left. Yes I could tell it was killed by a person that late. Besides, is it really that big of a deal, I think the op did the right thing regardless. Let the proper authorities decide what happened.I did;nt see it only read it but my 2 cents is Grundy knows elk if he said looked poached I would beleive it was too. As far as brush pickers and fern pickers the game warden told me they haul more stuff oiut in buckets than we do in a truck. They go where they want do what they want and what do you think happens if there caught. ME NO SPEAK ENGLISH. SOLLY
lol this is the exact reason the thread title irritates me so bad. Somebody said it on the internet so it must be true.
Grundy saw it a 1.5 weeks after it died. What do you think animals can do to a carcass in that amount of time? Do you seriously think somebody could tell it was poached without seeing a bullet hole in it after that amount of time?