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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2021, 05:48:50 AM »
The hose fitting up high that plumbs directly in with a hose is only for flushing with motor not running.
If running off muffs You have to block a vent. I think its under the cavitation plate.

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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2021, 07:47:28 AM »
swap thermostats and water impeller...
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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2021, 09:51:53 AM »
I wouldn't do any more work to it until you have made sure your following the proper procedures for running out of the water.  I really think that is your problem.

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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2021, 10:17:13 AM »
So a pretty weak stream but what seems like every hour or so? :chuckle:

Well all day long, but stream was solid.  Maybe drink more coffee? 😂

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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2021, 11:07:05 AM »
Also, if it won't pee on the hose then it definitely won't pee in the water. How does it run? Is it still cooling? Does it start to sputter after running it for a while? If it is running fine without sputtering or excessive smoke out of the exhaust, then it is getting cooled, which is good.

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Plenty of misinformation on here.
Well only three other options.
Many more...
Wired incorrectly?
There are no electrical components to the cooling system.
Just don't run too long with no pee, you'll burn up impeller.
Not true. The impeller only needs water to not burn up and it is getting that with the muffs. Impellers can be burnt up in seconds it does not take "too long."

Another thing to check is if there are zincs in the water jacket and rectifier plate area. There may be up to 4 of them (I think there are only 2 though) and they corrode and crumble over time. You may have some crumbles blocking a passageway.
https://www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/bp_AP_AssemblyDetail.asp?ID=74
https://www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/bp_AP_AssemblyDetail.asp?ID=51

Also, take the lower unit off and electrical tape or duct tape your garden hose to the pickup tube. Turn the garden hose on. See where the water comes out with water hoses leading to the thermostat disconnected and directed out of the cowling. We need to confirm that the block is getting cooled and we need to figure out if it is a clog or if the pump is not functioning/missing parts (https://www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/bp_AP_AssemblyDetail.asp?ID=57).
https://www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/bp_AP_AssemblyDetail.asp?ID=59
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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2021, 02:01:56 PM »
Can't attach images by direct message so here it is and for everyone else to see. The first image is of the anodes I was referring too. Two are located on the rectifier plate (figure 29 of the linked site) in front of the water jacket, and the other two on the head (figure 1). Just something easy to check. Figure 15 (thermostat) shows you how in-depth the lines for the coolant system are. If you pull a line off and it is dry, follow the lines deeper into the system. Like this video:

And for everyone else, the serial number is 14001F-422077

This site gives all of the part diagrams for the engine.
https://www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/suzuki/df140/01.asp

The second image is all of the parts of the water pump. Parts 6, 7, and 8 are easy to forget to reinstall and if forgotten, will not pump water...same with flipping the impeller backwards...
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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2021, 02:15:13 PM »
That's a Yamaha. His is a Suzuki.

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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2021, 02:45:47 PM »
That's a Yamaha. His is a Suzuki.
It doesn't matter. The anodes are in virtually the same spot. It's just a reference image to show him what they look like.

In the video they are diagnosing a Yamaha too, but they are basically all the same :tup:
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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2021, 08:58:30 PM »
After some incredible help and knowledge share (THANK YOU KOLA16 :tup:) several hours of taking things apart, flushing and replacing parts and learning a bunch along the way, today we got water out the tell tail! There is a fair amount about outboard care that we had no idea needed to be done as it was my dad's boat and we have only had it out a handful of times in the last few years.

Thank to all who offered ideas and things to check out. Kola16 thank you so much for the time knowledge and assistance, it will pay off for years, my son and I learned so much. We can comfortably do so much more maintenance on it now. For anyone interested, the internal anodes were very much deteriorated and the corrosion inside some of the hoses and cooling system plugged several tight areas so while we found a few early on it was a great deal of digging to actually find and remove it all. So be sure to check your anodes at least yearly. now it is time to go find some FISH!!! 

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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2021, 06:32:05 PM »
Thank you for the recap!
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Re: Outboard not peeing
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2021, 08:10:24 PM »
Thank you for the recap!
It is amazing what can be learned on this site at times!  :tup:

That is no lie! I have been around a while and lurked for quite a while before I joined. I never figured I would need the help I did, and was certainly more than pleased with what I received! And I agree that the follow up on some things on here is often neglected. There were plenty of folks who offered suggestions and I appreciated it because I had no idea. Anyone who took a few minutes to offer assistance I figured deserves to know we were successful and my situation may help someone else one day  :tup:.

 


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