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Carrying a pistol
« on: October 11, 2012, 10:23:12 AM »
I'm 18 years old, and mostly hunt alone and was wondering if it is legal to "open carry" while in the woods.

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2012, 10:35:48 AM »
i might be wrong, (please someone correct me if i am) but i'm pretty sure you can even carry conceiled while doing an outdoor activity or going to and from hunting/fishing. 
but as for open carry.... washington is an open carry state. so you don't need any permit to open carry at any time.

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2012, 10:38:27 AM »
So even at 18 I'm allowed to carry while hunting? I'll look into it more but I figured I'd ask on here to get a better idea.
Thank you for your noir by the way

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 10:44:32 AM »
The law says you can.  Look at # 8. 

RCW 9.41.060
Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.
   

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

     (1) Marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens or their deputies, correctional personnel and community corrections officers as long as they are employed as such who have completed government-sponsored law enforcement firearms training and have been subject to a check through the national instant criminal background check system or an equivalent background check within the past five years, or other law enforcement officers of this state or another state. Correctional personnel and community corrections officers seeking the waiver provided for by this section are required to pay for any background check that is needed in order to exercise the waiver;

     (2) Members of the armed forces of the United States or of the national guard or organized reserves, when on duty;

     (3) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed pistol;

     (4) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of the person, if possessing, using, or carrying a pistol in the usual or ordinary course of the business;

     (5) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive pistols from the United States or from this state;

     (6) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting, when those members are at or are going to or from their places of target practice;

     (7) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of modern and antique firearm collecting, when those members are at or are going to or from their collector's gun shows and exhibits;

     (8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

     (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; or

     (10) Law enforcement officers retired for service or physical disabilities, except for those law enforcement officers retired because of mental or stress-related disabilities. This subsection applies only to a retired officer who has: (a) Obtained documentation from a law enforcement agency within Washington state from which he or she retired that is signed by the agency's chief law enforcement officer and that states that the retired officer was retired for service or physical disability; and (b) not been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of a crime making him or her ineligible for a concealed pistol license.
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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 10:45:39 AM »
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060

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CW 9.41.060
Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.
   

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

     (1) Marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens or their deputies, correctional personnel and community corrections officers as long as they are employed as such who have completed government-sponsored law enforcement firearms training and have been subject to a check through the national instant criminal background check system or an equivalent background check within the past five years, or other law enforcement officers of this state or another state. Correctional personnel and community corrections officers seeking the waiver provided for by this section are required to pay for any background check that is needed in order to exercise the waiver;

     (2) Members of the armed forces of the United States or of the national guard or organized reserves, when on duty;

     (3) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed pistol;

     (4) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of the person, if possessing, using, or carrying a pistol in the usual or ordinary course of the business;

     (5) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive pistols from the United States or from this state;

     (6) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting, when those members are at or are going to or from their places of target practice;

     (7) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of modern and antique firearm collecting, when those members are at or are going to or from their collector's gun shows and exhibits;

     (8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

     (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; or

     (10) Law enforcement officers retired for service or physical disabilities, except for those law enforcement officers retired because of mental or stress-related disabilities. This subsection applies only to a retired officer who has: (a) Obtained documentation from a law enforcement agency within Washington state from which he or she retired that is signed by the agency's chief law enforcement officer and that states that the retired officer was retired for service or physical disability; and (b) not been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of a crime making him or her ineligible for a concealed pistol license.

[2011 c 221 § 1; 2005 c 453 § 3; 1998 c 253 § 2; 1996 c 295 § 5; 1995 c 392 § 1; 1994 sp.s. c 7 § 406; 1961 c 124 § 5; 1935 c 172 § 6; RRS § 2516-6.]

Notes:
     Severability -- 2005 c 453: See note following RCW 9.41.040.

     Finding -- Intent -- Severability -- 1994 sp.s. c 7: See notes following RCW 43.70.540.

     Effective date -- 1994 sp.s. c 7 §§ 401-410, 413-416, 418-437, and 439-460: See note following RCW 9.41.010.

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 10:48:52 AM »
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.050

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RCWs > Title 9 > Chapter 9.41 > Section 9.41.050

   
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RCW 9.41.050
Carrying firearms.
   

(1)(a) Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.

     (b) Every licensee shall have his or her concealed pistol license in his or her immediate possession at all times that he or she is required by this section to have a concealed pistol license and shall display the same upon demand to any police officer or to any other person when and if required by law to do so. Any violation of this subsection (1)(b) shall be a class 1 civil infraction under chapter 7.80 RCW and shall be punished accordingly pursuant to chapter 7.80 RCW and the infraction rules for courts of limited jurisdiction.

     (2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

     (b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.

     (3)(a) A person at least eighteen years of age who is in possession of an unloaded pistol shall not leave the unloaded pistol in a vehicle unless the unloaded pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

     (b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.

     (4) Nothing in this section permits the possession of firearms illegal to possess under state or federal law.

[2003 c 53 § 28; 1997 c 200 § 1; 1996 c 295 § 4; 1994 sp.s. c 7 § 405; 1982 1st ex.s. c 47 § 3; 1961 c 124 § 4; 1935 c 172 § 5; RRS § 2516-5.]

Notes:
     Intent -- Effective date -- 2003 c 53: See notes following RCW 2.48.180.

     Finding -- Intent -- Severability -- 1994 sp.s. c 7: See notes following RCW 43.70.540.

     Effective date -- 1994 sp.s. c 7 §§ 401-410, 413-416, 418-437, and 439-460: See note following RCW 9.41.010.

     Severability -- 1982 1st ex.s. c 47: See note following RCW 9.41.190.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.042

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RCW 9.41.042
Children — permissible firearm possession.
   

RCW 9.41.040(2)(a)(iii) shall not apply to any person under the age of eighteen years who is:

     (1) In attendance at a hunter's safety course or a firearms safety course;

     (2) Engaging in practice in the use of a firearm or target shooting at an established range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which such range is located or any other area where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited;

     (3) Engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm, or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group that uses firearms as a part of the performance;

     (4) Hunting or trapping under a valid license issued to the person under Title 77 RCW;

     (5) In an area where the discharge of a firearm is permitted, is not trespassing, and the person either: (a) Is at least fourteen years of age, has been issued a hunter safety certificate, and is using a lawful firearm other than a pistol; or (b) is under the supervision of a parent, guardian, or other adult approved for the purpose by the parent or guardian;

     (6) Traveling with any unloaded firearm in the person's possession to or from any activity described in subsection (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of this section;

     (7) On real property under the control of his or her parent, other relative, or legal guardian and who has the permission of the parent or legal guardian to possess a firearm;

     (8) At his or her residence and who, with the permission of his or her parent or legal guardian, possesses a firearm for the purpose of exercising the rights specified in RCW 9A.16.020(3); or

     (9) Is a member of the armed forces of the United States, national guard, or organized reserves, when on duty.

[2003 c 53 § 27; 1999 c 143 § 2; 1994 sp.s. c 7 § 403.]

Notes:
     Intent -- Effective date -- 2003 c 53: See notes following RCW 2.48.180.

     Finding -- Intent -- Severability -- 1994 sp.s. c 7: See notes following RCW 43.70.540.

     Effective date -- 1994 sp.s. c 7 §§ 401-410, 413-416, 418-437, and 439-460: See note following RCW 9.41.010.

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 07:12:39 PM »
perrrfect! Thanks guys! Just another reason to buy another gun i suppose... I hate when that happens...

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 07:39:56 PM »
You can't buy a handgun until you're 21 though

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 07:44:47 PM »
You can't buy a handgun until you're 21 though

 :yeah: thats the kicker....

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Carrying a pistol
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 07:45:42 PM »
I couldnt read through all that but I asked a sheriff once before I was 21 and he said I could carry a pistol when I'm doing a hunting type activity, so at archery, rifle hunting etc, or trapping. He did tell me not to conceal it though, especially in a vehicle. I had two pistols handed down to me by my grandpa and would use one of them, usually a 22 for grouse.

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 08:03:06 PM »
He was wrong about that part.  Now being 18, I would not recommend you carry it concealed in a vehicle even though if you are going to or from an outdoor activity, you would be legal....but at 18, there's no reason to try and have to explain that, escpecially to a LEO who is unfamiliar with exemption #8.  Be extra safe while carrying one, fair or not, you'll be under more scrutiny than most of us.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 08:23:53 PM »
He didn't tell me i cant conceal it. Just said i shouldn't. Just passing on what I was told by a sheriff. He's a really avid hunter by the way, cool guy I see him over talking to the Sims guys often, at least i used to.

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 08:51:49 PM »
 :tup:
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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2012, 07:18:15 AM »
We need more responsible "kids" under 21 carrying while hiking and hunting.  We need to get the word out!

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Re: Carrying a pistol
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2012, 08:45:06 AM »
Any suggestions on caliber to carry?

 


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