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[huntnphool]

Again, I'm only looking at the number of applicants and the number of permits.

So you say there are 64 applicants, and 4 permits. That's 1 in 16 odds.

Meaning out of every 16 people that applied, 1 will draw a permit.

Figuring out drawing odds of applicants per hunt is easy, that does not translate into actual drawing odds for individuals though, so you guys arguing over it is pointless.

[bobcat]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

[grundy53]

Again, I'm only looking at the number of applicants and the number of permits.

So you say there are 64 applicants, and 4 permits. That's 1 in 16 odds.

Meaning out of every 16 people that applied, 1 will draw a permit.

Figuring out drawing odds of applicants per hunt is easy, that does not translate into actual drawing odds for individuals though, so you guys arguing over it is pointless.

I think your right. We might be arguing two different points... 

[huntnphool]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

[bobcat]

All I'm trying to say is giving us more or less choices does not affect the overall odds of drawing a hunt. Yes, it will make some easier, and some harder to draw. But overall, nothing changes. I'm still all for people only having one choice per application. But like I said, all that would do is make it easier to calculate odds. I would still be looking at the numbers and going for whatever hunt has the least number of applicants, just like I do now.

[madmack76]

this state is a mistake

[bobcat]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

[grundy53]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

[WAcoueshunter]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

Why's that?  They give you the breakdown of the applicants by points now...?

[bobcat]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

Why's that?  They give you the breakdown of the applicants by points now...?

It's not worth it to me. I just go by the number of applicants and divide that by the number of permits.

[bobcat]

Now should we get this thread back on topic?

What are the top 5 deer permits?   

[huntnphool]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

And all I'm saying is that dividing the number of hunters by the permits does not give you the odds of getting one. Just because you are one of those 16 guys applying for one of the 4 permits does not give you a 1 in 4 odds chance of getting one, it gives you a 1 in 4 "people" chance. If everyone had the same amount of points then yes I see your point, but thats not realistic.

[huntnphool]

Now should we get this thread back on topic?

What are the top 5 deer permits?   

I thought that was answered earlier, Desert, Desert, Desert, Desert and Desert.

[bobcat]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

And all I'm saying is that dividing the number of hunters by the permits does not give you the odds of getting one. Just because you are one of those 16 guys applying for one of the 4 permits does not give you a 1 in 4 odds chance of getting one, it gives you a 1 in 4 "people" chance. If everyone had the same amount of points then yes I see your point, but thats not realistic.

I understand that. It's not the odds for an individual person, but the entire pool of applications, is what I'm talking about.

[grundy53]

Well, I don't know if it's pointless, but it's sure something that would be better to "discuss" in person.   

Yes with 16 people applying for 4 permits the odds are 1 in 4 will draw...............however the real question is which 1 of the 4 will draw, you have to calculate the number of points each person has.........................now lets sit back and watch what you guys come up with.

No thanks! I don't even consider points, it's nearly impossible to try to calculate the true odds of drawing a partucular hunt.

And all I'm saying is that dividing the number of hunters by the permits does not give you the odds of getting one. Just because you are one of those 16 guys applying for one of the 4 permits does not give you a 1 in 4 odds chance of getting one, it gives you a 1 in 4 "people" chance. If everyone had the same amount of points then yes I see your point, but thats not realistic.

lets not forget that al 16 people are putting in for the number 1 permit too.