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Author Topic: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI  (Read 265240 times)

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I know not everyone is commenting that they signed, but I'm wondering why I don't see many moderators commenting?

I signed it back when there was 3 replies to the thread. There...now I replied too.
i feel much better now!!! Thanks josh! :chuckle:
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Just a question, why us Hobbs not included with this group? It seems (and I say that as an outsider) his affiliations are with Crown and Cenci. Has he spoke out against the latest disciplinary actions?
I have been asked that by a couple of our employees.  First of all, maybe I am naïve but I believe that deep down he is a good guy, just over-shadowed by the bad guys he works for.  Secondly; he did a pretty fair job at keeping Cenci off my back during Operation Cody, which allowed it to run as long as it did.  And last; if we get rid of Crown and Cenci, I am not sure he will have a place in Olympia anyway with whomever takes over.
I have personally talked to Hobbs numerous times and he is a good guy from what I can tell. Glad he wasn't included.
I am am outsider, but there are definite red flags that I see with him.  Flags that have sure signs of affiliation with current management.
I've known Mike for almost 10 years and it started back when he was an officer in Ellensburg. I have to agree with UC and Vandeman on this one, he's a good guy. This whole 'show' is being ran into the ground by Crown and Cenci, obviously Hobbs is down in Olympia with them, but Crown and Cenci have been in Olympia a lot longer than Hobbs has been and they have the power. Hobbs is a wildlife guy, grew up on the eastside and spent most of his officer time in Kittitas County. I personally am glad to see he wasn't included in this.

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Can you sign if you're not a WA resident?

Why not..............out of staters are involved in much of WDFW policy making........

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Bed time for this old fart!  Keep it going guys!
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Understandable Bigtex. I'm sure you know where I'm seeing affiliations with them. Phillips (a total region 4 guy) with all the experience and over qualified is told to pound sand when Hebners job became available, and Hobbs was hired (kittitas guy). When Crown took over for Bjork, instantly a new job is created (making the department even more top heavy).  Hobbs gets the newly created #3 position alongside who, crown and Cenci.

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Understandable Bigtex. I'm sure you know where I'm seeing affiliations with them. Phillips (a total region 4 guy) with all the experience and over qualified is told to pound sand when Hebners job became available, and Hobbs was hired (kittitas guy). When Crown took over for Bjork, instantly a new job is created (making the department even more top heavy).  Hobbs gets the newly created #3 position alongside who, crown and Cenci.
Oh I definitely see it. I can remember 5 years before Hebner even retired everyone was saying Phillips would get the job, and he didn't. Now as far the Deputy Chief's position I disagree. The "new" Deputy Chief's position went to Cenci. Crown took the position of Captain for the Marine Unit which Cenci self-demoted himself to last summer and made it into a Deputy Chief's position.

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The wife and I are both on there, to bring it to 476.  I'd like to be a fly on the wall when the commission reads the comments.  Even better, have them read aloud in a public forum!
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Understandable Bigtex. I'm sure you know where I'm seeing affiliations with them. Phillips (a total region 4 guy) with all the experience and over qualified is told to pound sand when Hebners job became available, and Hobbs was hired (kittitas guy). When Crown took over for Bjork, instantly a new job is created (making the department even more top heavy).  Hobbs gets the newly created #3 position alongside who, crown and Cenci.
Oh I definitely see it. I can remember 5 years before Hebner even retired everyone was saying Phillips would get the job, and he didn't. Now as far the Deputy Chief's position I disagree. The "new" Deputy Chief's position went to Cenci. Crown took the position of Captain for the Marine Unit which Cenci self-demoted himself to last summer and made it into a Deputy Chief's position.

T hanks for the insight. I was (and still am on the fence) due to the recent actions/disciplines against Jones and Phillips. I would love to hear that Hobbs was not in agreement with the demotion and termination. As I see it Hobbs has oversight responsibilities (although I know it was Crown who had final say). I think there are legitimate questions of Hobbs, including but not limited to, was due process followed? Was Jones termination justified? Were these disciplinary actions fair and consistent with department policy? Were these actions (by the department) retaliatory? He took the DC job and I feel it is fair to question his involvement (or lack of, we don't know).
 




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If possible I'd like to see Phillips take over . if he is even interested ?

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If possible I'd like to see Phillips take over . if he is even interested ?

Right now his priority is recovering from hip replacement, then it will be trying to get his stripes back, after that...you would have to ask him.

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