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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2014, 02:26:57 PM »
Presumably he shot to kill  the wolf...right?

Scary stuff.  I hope they learned their lesson...we will see.  Deer season comes back open this weekend.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2014, 03:00:02 PM »
I just saw a big black wolf at the Tiger side of highway 20 E.  This wolf was not 0.5 miles from houses and people.  They are getting very bold around people. :bash: 
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2014, 03:05:00 PM »
That wolf is always up there.  That's the one they are trying to catch and move to wolf haven

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2014, 03:50:14 PM »
Sorry it was Gary Chittum here is the story
http://www.king5.com/videos/tech/science/environment/2014/11/06/15997490/

The wolf was "well behaved."

The shot was intentional.

The wolf was doing what it was supposed to be doing.

Using my sherlock holmes hat, the only way Gary could have known this was if he was the shooter!  Get the cuffs out and lock him up.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2014, 03:57:15 PM »
I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution.  If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.

The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality.  Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.

The one thing that seperates potential wolf attacks from other predator attacks is the fact that WA's wolves are not hunted. I wonder how many wolf attacks will be permitted before WA will be allowed to hunt wolves?

http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2014, 04:07:04 PM »
Hunting wolves should help reduce conflict with humans; however, wolf attacks are not "permitted" by anyone.
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2014, 05:12:51 PM »
Hunter cleared for shooting at stalking wolf
UPDATED 1 p.m. with quotes from WDFW enforcement chief.

A hunter who took a shot at a gray wolf after being virtually surrounded by a pack in northeastern Washington on Oct. 30 has been cleared of any wrongdoing by Washington Fish and Wildlife police who investigated the incident.

Wolves are protected under state endangered species rules, but exceptions are allowed for force when people or domestic animals are directly threatened.

The incident took place in the territory of the Smackout Pack in Stevens County northeast of Colville off the Aladdin Road, department officials say.

The hunter called officers and reported his chilling story, which is summarized in the agency's Dangerous Wildlife Incident Reports. The story was confirmed by Steve Crown, department enforcement chief. The name of the hunter is being withheld, he said.

The man was hunting with several people when he saw a wolf skirting along the brush headed in the same direction he was going.

According to the police report, he yelled and shot into the air and the wolf left.

The hunter said he saw three additional wolves about 25 yards ahead of him, and they ran in the same direction as the first wolf.

The man then heard a noise in the brush, yelled to see if it was his hunting partner and got no response. A black wolf appeared within 15-20 yards of and approached him.  The man shot at the wolf. He told officers he believed he hit it, but the wolf ran off.

Investigating officers said they found hair held by a small patch of hide indicating a flesh would likely be more educational than lethal to the wolf.

Crown acknowledged that as wolves repopulate their former territory people who venture into the northeastern Washington woods have to be more prepared for wildlife encounters than in the past.

But Crown said he’s cautious of promoting hysteria, pointing out that wolfs are naturally inquisitive.

“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.

However, being armed with bear spray may be a wise precaution when being out in the woods where bears, cougars, wolves and coyotes roam, he said.

“Carrying bear spray is a good precaution,” he said. “If you’re just out checking fences, you can jump back into your pickup if something threatening occurs. But when your venturing out to more remote areas, your options are limited.  You have to be able to take care of yourself.”

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/nov/06/hunter-cleared-shooting-stalking-wolf/

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2014, 05:23:14 PM »
Hunting wolves should help reduce conflict with humans; however, wolf attacks are not "permitted" by anyone.

So, WDFW will address a wolf pack that is aggressive towards people the same as livestock killing wolves?

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2014, 05:31:34 PM »
Hunter cleared for shooting at stalking wolf
UPDATED 1 p.m. with quotes from WDFW enforcement chief.

A hunter who took a shot at a gray wolf after being virtually surrounded by a pack in northeastern Washington on Oct. 30 has been cleared of any wrongdoing by Washington Fish and Wildlife police who investigated the incident.

Wolves are protected under state endangered species rules, but exceptions are allowed for force when people or domestic animals are directly threatened.

The incident took place in the territory of the Smackout Pack in Stevens County northeast of Colville off the Aladdin Road, department officials say.

The hunter called officers and reported his chilling story, which is summarized in the agency's Dangerous Wildlife Incident Reports. The story was confirmed by Steve Crown, department enforcement chief. The name of the hunter is being withheld, he said.

The man was hunting with several people when he saw a wolf skirting along the brush headed in the same direction he was going.

According to the police report, he yelled and shot into the air and the wolf left.

The hunter said he saw three additional wolves about 25 yards ahead of him, and they ran in the same direction as the first wolf.

The man then heard a noise in the brush, yelled to see if it was his hunting partner and got no response. A black wolf appeared within 15-20 yards of and approached him.  The man shot at the wolf. He told officers he believed he hit it, but the wolf ran off.

Investigating officers said they found hair held by a small patch of hide indicating a flesh would likely be more educational than lethal to the wolf.

Crown acknowledged that as wolves repopulate their former territory people who venture into the northeastern Washington woods have to be more prepared for wildlife encounters than in the past.

But Crown said he’s cautious of promoting hysteria, pointing out that wolfs are naturally inquisitive.

“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.

However, being armed with bear spray may be a wise precaution when being out in the woods where bears, cougars, wolves and coyotes roam, he said.

“Carrying bear spray is a good precaution,” he said. “If you’re just out checking fences, you can jump back into your pickup if something threatening occurs. But when your venturing out to more remote areas, your options are limited.  You have to be able to take care of yourself.”

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/nov/06/hunter-cleared-shooting-stalking-wolf/

Yep. Nothing prepares you more for defending yourself from a wolf attack than a can of pepper spray.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2014, 05:35:05 PM »
I got an sr9 that will be a little more effective and can't blow back in my face and blind me
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2014, 07:57:27 PM »
Saddened to hear WDFW promoting bear spray when there's plenty of proof that it has very limited effect on wolves.

Couple of stories come to mind, here is a good one.
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/


other than high velocity lead I'm not sure what would work on a pack of wolves.


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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2014, 07:58:17 PM »
A well regulated malaysia, being necessary to the serenity of a free state,  the right to keep a bear and a can of beer spray, shall not be infringed.  *hic*

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2014, 09:57:35 PM »
Saddened to hear WDFW promoting bear spray when there's plenty of proof that it has very limited effect on wolves.

Couple of stories come to mind, here is a good one.
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/


other than high velocity lead I'm not sure what would work on a pack of wolves.
The link at the bottom of the article you posted does not support what you are saying.  I think bear spray and guns can each be effective and each has advantages and disadvantages.  I do not believe you are correct in making some wholesale statement that bear spray has a very limited effect on wolves.   http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/11/alaska-highway-cyclists-lauded-packing-bear-spray/ 

Seems it kept this wolf away and possibly saved this cyclists life...it obviously worked int this case.  Could a gun have worked better...debatable...how good of a shot are you while pedaling furiously down the highway shooting behind you at a moving target??
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2014, 10:28:59 PM »
I personally talked to the FIRST park ranger that used Bear spray in the Teiton National park while climbing the mountain. She told me that it was effective on the huge grizz. Unfortunate she said in order for it to be effective you are so close you can smell what the Grizz had for breakfast. And its not pleasant. I have no doubt it works on 1 bear.  I can tell you that i wont let a wolf get that close to me.
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2014, 10:37:11 PM »
Let us know how the spray works out

 


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