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300 black out
« on: December 02, 2015, 12:04:47 PM »
Hey guys, any of you familiar with this cartrige? or have feed back about it?  thanks

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 12:11:22 PM »
dads friend has one and  been  working on reloads

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 12:11:54 PM »
It's a fun cartridge.   Short range 200 yards or so supersonic, and 100 yards or so subsonic.  (That's without dialing for range).   Great for reloading, really quiet and fun, but not really practical as a hunting round.  Mines a bolt action.  Really can't speak to the AR-15's.

Subsonics are crazy quiet with a can.   

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2015, 12:13:17 PM »
Bknilvr had a thread very recently about this......lotta good info on there.

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 12:14:00 PM »
It's a fun cartridge.   Short range 200 yards or so supersonic, and 100 yards or so subsonic.  (That's without dialing for range).   Great for reloading, really quiet and fun, but not really practical as a hunting round.  Mines a bolt action.  Really can't speak to the AR-15's.

Subsonics are crazy quiet with a can.   
Why isn't it practical for hunting?

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 12:31:24 PM »
I heard a story of a buck eating a whole bunch of lead from one multiple times at close range.


The shooter now is pretty adamant that it is NOT a deer cartridge.
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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2015, 12:36:42 PM »
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Why isn't it practical for hunting?


I guess it would have been better written, as there are better alternatives for big game hunting.   I mostly use mine for coyotes and have used it on deer and elk and it worked fine, but I feel there are better options...  For supersonics the best bullets to use (my experience) are 125gr Nolser ballistic tips, and Speer 130 flat point.

125's expand well, and 130's will expand mildly and penetrate while holding together.

The subsonics are fun, but have a rainbow trajectory.  The real reason I bought mine was to shoot cast bullets in it for fun (and cheaply).  For that it has been excellent.   

   

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2015, 01:24:18 PM »
I heard a story of a buck eating a whole bunch of lead from one multiple times at close range.


The shooter now is pretty adamant that it is NOT a deer cartridge.

Most likely yet another use of non-expanding subsonic bullets for hunting. People don't seem to get this; none of the jacketed .30 cal heavy bullets from mainstream manufacturers expand or do significant damage at subsonic speeds. You need to use a bullet specifically designed for subsonic loads, but most people won't spend the time or $.

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2015, 02:07:02 PM »
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Why isn't it practical for hunting?


I guess it would have been better written, as there are better alternatives for big game hunting.   I mostly use mine for coyotes and have used it on deer and elk and it worked fine, but I feel there are better options...  For supersonics the best bullets to use (my experience) are 125gr Nolser ballistic tips, and Speer 130 flat point.

125's expand well, and 130's will expand mildly and penetrate while holding together.

The subsonics are fun, but have a rainbow trajectory.  The real reason I bought mine was to shoot cast bullets in it for fun (and cheaply).  For that it has been excellent.   

 
Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 03:42:56 PM »
I would recommend the 6.8 spc over the 300blk. Its a .270 bullet out of basically a .30 cal case.

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 04:29:44 PM »
I've read some articles about it, the military favors it for special forces because it can be subsonic and very quiet but still have the same "knock down" power of a hot .45 acp if I remember right. 
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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2015, 04:39:19 PM »
You could give us some more info as to why you were thi king 300black out.

I have it my mind to build a ar in 6.5grendal. Near 308 balistics out of a 7.62x39 case. Common brass case and they already make ar15 in 762x39 so a different barrel is all thats needed.

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2015, 04:46:45 AM »
A lot of guys in Indiana are getting AR15 pistols and using a 300 blackout to hunt deer because of the states messed up caliber rules.  They love them, use Lancer Mags.  300 Blackout is heavier and GI and PMag followers will cant causing bolt over base. Use the Sierra 125 lead nose or use Hornady or Barnes 110 grain Ballistic tip (Red or Brown), 19 grains of Accurate 1680, OAL 2.260"
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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2015, 07:44:45 AM »
You could give us some more info as to why you were thi king 300black out.

I have it my mind to build a ar in 6.5grendal. Near 308 balistics out of a 7.62x39 case. Common brass case and they already make ar15 in 762x39 so a different barrel is all thats needed.

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Re: 300 black out
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2015, 08:07:06 AM »
thanks for all the good info guys!  just looking for something quiet, so i dont stir up the neighbor hood during the winter when the coyotes get thick and i start calving season...

 


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