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Re: Food Plot Discussion
« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2019, 04:56:38 PM »
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Re: Food Plot Discussion
« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2019, 05:46:24 PM »
I just use an ATV mounted sprayer, it works in the little plots pretty good.

We have some mixed clover plots that have done pretty good with minimal maintenance. We sprayed 24d before we started and again after the first planting of oats or rye was growing good, then we seeded clover the second spring. It has seemed to work best if we overseed with clover lightly every year, you can do that late fall or early spring, we've seeded one of them 3 years in a row and this year the clover is super thick, that helps keep the weeds from taking over too. I've tried about a dozen different varieties of clover, it seems like a mix with 2/3 Durana white clover and 1/3 medium red seems to come in heavy and really provides a lot of forage if you have lots of deer or elk hitting your plot. Some of the other clovers we planted it seemed the deer did not like as well or they didn't grow as well. A few times I tried establishing clover by simply over seeding old pasture or forest openings but it didn't seem to come in very well without some tillage of some sort, obviously tillage lets the seed make soil contact to germinate better.

This is a small plot of oats and clover together, a first time planting this spring with both at the same time, no fertilizer and no lime was used, this spot is doing ok without either, it was getting wildlife traffic in the spring, not so much right now with everything green everywhere. I'm behind on spraying for weeds, (look close in the photo, that's not all clover and oats) I just ordered more 24-db to spray this and a couple other similar plots. I'm attempting to establish clover with the oats so that next spring all I do is overseed with clover seed and don't have to till it at all. This would save a year in establishing the clover stand from the way we were doing it in the past using 24d on the oats and planting clover the second year. I will spray with 24db, the clover should be fine and hopefully I get most of the weeds killed too. I'm trying to get these clover plots established faster with the least amount of mechanized tillage and maintenance, it will be interesting to see how this works out.
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Re: Food Plot Discussion
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2019, 07:37:09 AM »
that is looking good

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Re: Food Plot Discussion
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2019, 08:19:19 AM »
I didn't plow, I only had my disc with me, I was wishing I had the plow because the sod was denser than I thought it was, I disced enough to get the soil pretty well exposed and planted the oat seed with a hand broadcast seeder, then drug in the seed with a piece of hog panel pulled behind an atv, and then broadcast the clover over the top and left. I usually pack the seed with a water filled roller behind the atv but didn't have that with me either. I wasn't sure how well it would germinate but it's doing better than expected.

I'll see what the plot looks like in the fall or early spring, originally after seeing how dense the sod was I had figured I might be discing this plot again next spring but it came in better than expected, if I think it's needed I might pull a spring tooth over it before adding more clover seed, hopefully I can just add more seed and it will keep coming in thicker with clover. Because it is growing better than expected and I don't think I'll have to disc or plow again I wished I would have added some alfalfa into the seed mix. Because of the 24-db spray I'll use it wouldn't do any good to add chickory because the spray will kill chickory.

If the grass tries to come back in too thick I could spray clethodim to kill out the grass. I'm hoping I don't have to do that but we'll see.
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Re: Food Plot Discussion
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2019, 11:06:22 AM »
yes i would be nice to see more pictures in sept and oct. is this plot south facing?

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Re: Food Plot Discussion
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2019, 11:15:50 AM »
yes i would be nice to see more pictures in sept and oct. is this plot south facing?

Mostly westerly, I imagine it will dry up in July until fall rains green up the clover again. There is the option of overseeding with a winter grain to get some good late fall attraction. If I over seeded with winter rye or wheat and then mowed the oats that would probably help the winter grain germinate better, but I've been told it should germinate as soon as there is good rain even without mowing. (I've tilled in the fall for winter grain before, this over seeding method would be a new thing to try.)
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