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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #195 on: June 26, 2018, 06:25:08 PM »
200 yard zero, about 2400 ft, and 3026 on the magneto speed.


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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #196 on: June 26, 2018, 06:30:24 PM »
You can do it but it is said to be much more accurate if you go out to the 800 yards but only need to do it at 100 yard increments.Reason is to confirm the BC of the bullet.You need to know how much more spin drift will come in also.(a perfect no wind day will tell a person a lot  :twocents:)Question for the op:Do you know exactly where your round is crossing the trajectory line again?If you do how close is it to your dope?Confirm by shooting 100 yard at zero and 400 yard at zero.if drop matches dope you're good if not then you're BC at wherever they came up with it is not real world.  :tup:
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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #197 on: June 26, 2018, 06:39:24 PM »
You can do it but it is said to be much more accurate if you go out to the 800 yards but only need to do it at 100 yard increments.Reason is to confirm the BC of the bullet.You need to know how much more spin drift will come in also.(a perfect no wind day will tell a person a lot  :twocents:)Question for the op:Do you know exactly where your round is crossing the trajectory line again?If you do how close is it to your dope?Confirm by shooting 100 yard at zero and 400 yard at zero.if drop matches dope you're good if not then you're BC at wherever they came up with it is not real world.  :tup:
I can’t say that I do. Dialing 4 MOA at 400 has me center of the plate. So if I hold dead on at 400 and hit roughly 16 inches low, BC should be correct? Am I understanding you correctly?


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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #198 on: June 26, 2018, 06:40:51 PM »
yes you are correct.
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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #199 on: June 26, 2018, 06:42:07 PM »
shooting on a really good day like no wind and not to hot how much does it drift from 100 yards to 400 yards?
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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #200 on: June 26, 2018, 06:45:17 PM »
I can’t say that I have noticed, or paid attention to it. Sorry, I’m very new to this whole deal.


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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #201 on: June 26, 2018, 06:51:50 PM »
As was stated earlier by the other member here,The right app will tell all if you put the best info you get in it.@1000 i would guess 9-9.5 inches of spin drift. with the numbers you gave.  :tup:

Meaning if you shoot out to 1000 right now moving up you're dial with what you already have and over 9 inches you will hit plate on a no wind 70 deg. day.
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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #202 on: June 26, 2018, 07:24:37 PM »
I can’t say that I have noticed, or paid attention to it. Sorry, I’m very new to this whole deal.


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Start playing with a ballistic calculator like this https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/ and you will get a better handle on it. 

Like enter a 10 mile an hour wind from the right to see how much to adjust then a 10 mile an hour wind from the left - wth its twice as much for a left wind vs right ????  hehe

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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #203 on: June 26, 2018, 07:59:55 PM »
Gotcha! Thanks for the replies! I will play around with it and try to duplicate my numbers


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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #204 on: June 26, 2018, 08:18:57 PM »
that hornady app is good for figuring how flat your load is gonna be  :twocents: but if you want to shoot long range you will be money ahead with a real app. Especially if your wanting to take that 450 yard elk. Applied Ballistics makes an app you can put on your smart phone and have with you at all times and wont take min. to get the info you need.


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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #205 on: June 28, 2018, 06:08:11 PM »
What are you folks thoughts on the night force shv. I need a new long range scope and looking seriously at night force
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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #206 on: June 28, 2018, 06:25:04 PM »
Shv is only NF I would consider due to weight. Itss only 1/4 lb more than a Leupold and 1/2lb more than Z5 swaro.


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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #207 on: June 28, 2018, 06:33:22 PM »
Shv is only NF I would consider due to weight. Itss only 1/4 lb more than a Leupold and 1/2lb more than Z5 swaro.


weight isn’t an issue for me When it comes to scopes. My current hunting rifle is 17 lbs. I have a strong back and a weak mind

I’m sure just about any options in my price range ($1500) will be better than my viper pst
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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #208 on: June 28, 2018, 06:52:26 PM »
If you like ffp and mils take a look at the Leupold mark5 you should be able to find a 3-18 in your budget if you watch for sales or specials
At least closeto your budget

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Re: Long range for beginners
« Reply #209 on: June 28, 2018, 07:12:08 PM »
I’m fine with sfp.  I rarely ever hold for elevation and if I’m shooting past 500 I’m typically at max power. I should give some specs if I’m taking recommendations:
No leupolds (say what you will but I hate them! Along with nosler and Barnes! Bad words in my book!)
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20ish power on the top end, 25 max but over 16
Moa
I like having hash marks for wind as long as accurate at max power
Exposed elevation turret and don’t really care about zero stop
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