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Old School Compass Navigation
« on: June 11, 2018, 12:00:05 AM »
Hello all,

Hope all is well! I recently graduated from UW and my uncle as a grad present got me a compass. Made by Thos J Evans. It’s so damn cool. I’ve used simple compasses plenty of times. But never one this intricate. Does anyone by chance know how to effectively use all the functions of this thing?
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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 12:07:10 AM »
That is pretty cool.

I highly recommend this book, although there are probably plenty of free videos or other electronic resources out there.

https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Navigation-Finding-Altimeter-Mountaineers/dp/0898869536

Covers declination, orienting, taking and following a bearing, triangulation IIRC, and more.

Grab a topo map of your favorite area, the compass and book, and get out there.  It is pretty fun.

I like green trails maps.

https://www.greentrailsmaps.com

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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 06:55:36 AM »
That looks like a really nice gift, I'm envious.

It looks to me like the outside graduations are for your azimuth.

The semi-circle inside that is Percent of Slope which would be used in conjunction with the vial level.
The interior semi-circle is Degree of Slope, also used with the vial level.
You will notice that 100% is equal to 45° of slope.
These two features are referrred to a (in)clinometers or a sort of Abny Level.
They are used by flipping the compass on edge vertically and finding the proper site plane.

The Bulls-Eye bubble is to assist in holding the compass level in order to obtain an accurate azimuth reading.

The little button on the rim looks like a dampening mechanism to settle the needle

A good Orienteering book will greatly assist you.
I have used a compass for years and to this day, rarely find a need for GPS.

Bring a map and use the two often and you will never get lost.
Have fun and good luck!!

Rob.


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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 08:40:29 PM »
Very nice  :tup:

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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 08:43:49 PM »
I'm jealous.  That is a really nice compass.  Great gift.  Congrats. 


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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 09:57:07 AM »
VERY cool
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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 10:16:05 AM »
That looks like a really nice gift, I'm envious.

It looks to me like the outside graduations are for your azimuth.

The semi-circle inside that is Percent of Slope which would be used in conjunction with the vial level.
The interior semi-circle is Degree of Slope, also used with the vial level.
You will notice that 100% is equal to 45° of slope.
These two features are referrred to a (in)clinometers or a sort of Abny Level.
They are used by flipping the compass on edge vertically and finding the proper site plane.

The Bulls-Eye bubble is to assist in holding the compass level in order to obtain an accurate azimuth reading.

The little button on the rim looks like a dampening mechanism to settle the needle

A good Orienteering book will greatly assist you.
I have used a compass for years and to this day, rarely find a need for GPS.

Bring a map and use the two often and you will never get lost.
Have fun and good luck!!

Rob.

Looks like a Brunton Pocket Transit, as far as I know used primarily by geologists for field measurements of strike and dip, but I'm sure NW Surveyor knows many other uses.

https://www.brunton.com/products/conventional-pocket-transit-0-90?variant=36245970258

Like him I prefer a piece of paper, an altimeter watch and a compass.  And given the terrain andd the ability to fix your elevation, a compass can be optional.

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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2018, 10:26:34 AM »
Anymore the hardest part of using a compass is acquiring a good map!
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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2018, 11:34:58 AM »
If you're going to use this for navigation in the woods, look up "magnetic declination".  In WA, it will throw you're compass off 15 degrees or better.  On a 2 mile hike, you'll miss you're target by over a half mile.  That is really cool though.  I would cherish that until I died.
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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2018, 11:53:16 AM »
REI has a orienteering class that will teach you how to use a compass. Lots of hands on learning, I highly recommend it.

https://www.rei.com/events/a/navigation
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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2018, 04:09:07 PM »
Anymore the hardest part of using a compass is acquiring a good map!

Or being in the deep dark holes, where there are no useful landmarks.

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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2018, 04:09:48 PM »
REI has a orienteering class that will teach you how to use a compass. Lots of hands on learning, I highly recommend it.

https://www.rei.com/events/a/navigation

IIRC, that book I recommended is what REI uses to teach its class.

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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 06:00:41 PM »


I highly recommend this book, although there are probably plenty of free videos or other electronic resources out there.

https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Navigation-Finding-Altimeter-Mountaineers/dp/0898869536

Covers declination, orienting, taking and following a bearing, triangulation IIRC, and more.

Bob is a friend of mine,  and I used to work with his son Mike. Somewhere I have this book, cira a 1970 reprint of the 1955 classic

“Be an expert with map and compass” by Bjorn Kjellstrom

https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Map-Compass-Bjorn-Kjellstrom/dp/0470407654

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Re: Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 08:30:31 PM »
Small world.

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Old School Compass Navigation
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2018, 10:34:49 PM »
If you're going to use this for navigation in the woods, look up "magnetic declination".  In WA, it will throw you're compass off 15 degrees or better.  On a 2 mile hike, you'll miss you're target by over a half mile.  That is really cool though.  I would cherish that until I died.

Thank you! It is one of the best gifts I’ve ever been given. I intend to have my initials or name engraved on the back and then pass it down someday and have my child/grandchild do the same.


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