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At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« on: January 02, 2019, 05:52:41 PM »
At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature? I know for whitetails that age is considered 4.5 years. At that point, the bucks main frame is done growing and more resources can be put towards antler growth. Do blacktails follow the same pattern?

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 06:55:31 PM »
I would say it's the same. Whether whitetail, blacktail, or mule deer.

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2019, 12:05:37 AM »
I agree with that, unless it's the last day of hunting season, in which case, "mature" is a squishy term for anything with antlers.  ;)
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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2019, 12:09:00 AM »
4.5 and older is a mature deer.. bone structure is fully developed at this age. Prime antler growth occur at 4.5 to 7.5 with some exceptions at older ages, but rare

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 12:32:14 AM »
Thanks for the help guys. I've got a lot to learn around here.

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2019, 05:32:00 AM »
Good thing you learned about blacktail these days is if it has horns its a shooter :chuckle:
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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2019, 08:51:09 AM »
Good thing you learned about blacktail these days is if it has horns its a shooter :chuckle:
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Until you get a few years under your belt I wouldn't hold out for a big one...blacktail are possibly the hardest deer to get a big mature animal, good luck on your adventure!  :tup:
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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2019, 09:08:30 AM »
I just wanted a reference point similar to whitetail. Just one more piece to the puzzle.

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2019, 09:42:13 AM »
A study in Wisconsin about 20 years ago concluded that a buck that survives it's first 3 & 1/2 years of life, has an 85% chance of dying of old age!

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 09:43:47 AM »
If you show more than a passing interest in Blacktail hunting, these books below are considered the two "must read" sources.  Both seem to have gone out of print in the last year, and the prices are going up.  $30 new was the price back when they were still being published.  It looks like that'll get you a used one now, if you're lucky.  Your local library may have a copy, which is a good option.   You might also be able to borrow one from a local forum member.  (I'd loan you mine, but I'd need a set of the keys to your car as collateral to assure their safe return.  :chuckle:)

Lastly, the Capitol Forest, just west of Oly is an excellent place to cut your teeth on scouting around for BTs.  There are a lot of deer in there so it is an excellent training ground.  The place is overrun with hunters during modern firearm season, so I don't recommend it during that season unless you're into truck parades. You'll need a $30 Discover Pass to legally access State lands if you decide to head out there.


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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2019, 03:46:07 PM »
When he gets laid for the first time......    :chuckle:

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2019, 04:07:42 PM »
I don’t believe blacktails are generating there best antlers until 7 years or better. They seem to be slow generators in Washington for whatever reason (feed, genes). Using my trail cameras I have had the opportunity to see antler growth over numerous years and it is slow growth.
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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2019, 04:15:09 PM »
A study in Wisconsin about 20 years ago concluded that a buck that survives it's first 3 & 1/2 years of life, has an 85% chance of dying of old age!

Which makes ya wonder how old bucks really get? Studies claim I think 10-12 years tops. But I bet it's twice that if conditions are favorable and predators are low.
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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2019, 04:42:16 PM »
One thing I might add is don’t assume because a buck is only a 2x2 that he isn’t mature. Especially if you end up out on the coast or up the peninsula, a fair amount of bucks out in that neck of the woods never make it past a 2 point no matter the age.

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Re: At what age is a blacktail buck considered mature?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2019, 04:49:26 PM »
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Which makes ya wonder how old bucks really get? Studies claim I think 10-12 years tops. But I bet it's twice that if conditions are favorable and predators are low.

No I think that's wrong. Virtually everywhere a 10+ male deer is absolutely ancient. Does live a lot longer than bucks, but very, VERY few bucks hit double digits.

Interesting mention on a recent Meat Eater podcast by a deer biologist who found it utterly laughable that guys thought they could age a deer by looking at its body or its antlers. Apparently it's actually been studied and nobody is better than random chance. Tooth age is the only reliable way to go after they're past spikes.


 


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