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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2019, 08:55:28 AM »
"Officially, predation by wolves and mountain lions were the main cause of the Selkirk herd's collapse. But it started with humans, DeGroot said."

Yeah, and blaming it on wolves and cougars doesn't fit the narrative. These people are holding onto these PC narratives at the expense of our wildlife. Native wolves all gone? Doesn't matter because we now have better ones. All of the caribou gone? The wolves and cougars killed them but it's man's fault for destroying habitat. This is willful violation of the ESA, favoring one animal over another for survival.
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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2019, 08:57:20 AM »
^ I would agree with that statement.

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2019, 09:47:16 AM »
Sad to see wolves are favored over the extinction of our Caribou heard

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2019, 11:34:10 AM »
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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2019, 11:54:23 AM »
Funny, no lawsuits.  It's almost like it's not really about the animals and science with some groups.

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2019, 12:00:57 PM »
So the seattle and olympia wolf packs are extinct and millions of dollars are being spent to re establish them.....so why isnt there a passionate effort by the animal rights groups to re establish the Caribou herd.....??  Where the heck are you when theres a REAL problem, conservation northwest ?????

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2019, 12:31:19 PM »
What a shame. On the bright side, in about 20 years all of the prey will be gone and it will just be survival of the fittest among the predators.  :bash:
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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2019, 01:38:20 PM »
Canada has wolfs and lions and the caribou seem to do alright. I think this has more to do with habitat and that area being on the extreme southern fringe of where they’d normally be. Just my opinion.

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2019, 02:28:27 PM »
WAcoyotehunter I believe was pretty involved with the herd while they were still here. He would be a great resource for information. If I remember correctly like most things it was the culmination of habitat change, habitat destruction, salted roadways, predation by lions and wolves

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 02:43:14 PM »
Canada has wolfs and lions and the caribou seem to do alright. I think this has more to do with habitat and that area being on the extreme southern fringe of where they’d normally be. Just my opinion.

So you seem to know more about this than the biologists who were working with the caribou who said that predation by wolves and cougars is the primary reason. Where do you get your information?
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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 03:12:22 PM »
just transplant a few dozen herds.  They do it for wolves, fishers, antelope, etc.

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2019, 04:00:42 PM »
This whole thing just pisses me off. Just goes to show its not about the animals. These crazy libs have a larger agenda with the Wolves.

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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2019, 04:01:48 PM »
It's really sad. Wa, Idaho and B.C have been trying to keep this herd alive for a long time
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Re: Selkirk Caribou Herd officially declared extinct
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2019, 04:11:36 PM »
This herd has been struggling for quite awhile. They just weren’t long for the world. I don’t see how you could pit this as wolves vs caribou. Predation was the final straw but with consitantly low numbers in the herd it was just a matter of time before something got them. I don’t think that they have numbered over 50 in this century.

 


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