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Author Topic: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞  (Read 26713 times)

Offline hunter399

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #315 on: April 11, 2020, 12:22:06 PM »
Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #316 on: April 11, 2020, 12:28:44 PM »
Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #317 on: April 11, 2020, 02:23:16 PM »
Even considering much of the state already had a 2 bear limit and august 1st or august 15th openers, still the total statewide fall harvest increased by almost 50% from 2018 to 2019.  :tup:  that extra 685 bears reported killed last fall will help out the deer elk and moose.   

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #318 on: April 11, 2020, 06:25:43 PM »
Most of the folks I talked to last year had no idea about the reg change because it wasn't in the paper copy they picked up in spring. I'd bet alot more pressure gets put on them this fall too.

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #319 on: April 12, 2020, 12:21:11 AM »
Most of the folks I talked to last year had no idea about the reg change because it wasn't in the paper copy they picked up in spring. I'd bet alot more pressure gets put on them this fall too.

This. There were a lot of people that questioned us last season.
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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #320 on: April 12, 2020, 02:11:58 AM »
Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be
I'm fully aware of how bear population is estimated.So when or if there is a decline in harvest we will lose opportunity.
As you know WDFW has a pretty good record for allowing over harvest ,then taking opportunity away. I've been emailing a few people at WDFW over spring permit numbers ect.It didn't sound as if permits numbers or any kind of spring bear season was gonna change.
But knowing how WDFW is you can see my concern.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #321 on: April 12, 2020, 06:29:39 AM »
 If people will get out and put the effort In success rate should not go down. Most people just donít even go out there hunting And only shoot them incidentally. All you have to do is get out there and try. My brother Was never much into it because he would never see bears. I kept shooting bears in August when there werenít nearly as many people out and I finally got him over this year and he did get a shot off at one. Unfortunately he just nicked it. He went home and I killed a different one a couple days later then the one he had missed his chance on the week after that. He is now hooked and will be back August 1st.

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #322 on: April 12, 2020, 06:58:54 AM »
Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be
I'm fully aware of how bear population is estimated.So when or if there is a decline in harvest we will lose opportunity.
As you know WDFW has a pretty good record for allowing over harvest ,then taking opportunity away. I've been emailing a few people at WDFW over spring permit numbers ect.It didn't sound as if permits numbers or any kind of spring bear season was gonna change.
But knowing how WDFW is you can see my concern.

Yeah, i see your concern, it goes in a pattern like this.

We need more predator control!

Oh no, they gave us more predator control, this is bad because if we kill more predators theyll take away our increased predator control!

Serious dude, just stop. 

Whats the point of having opportunity if youre afraid to yse it for fear of it being taken away?

Everybody should make sure not to kill predators so we can have good seasons?

You make no sense, you just look for things to complain about.  I think you enjoy being a massive pessimist naysayer.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2020, 07:13:25 AM by Bango skank »

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #323 on: April 12, 2020, 08:38:22 AM »
Any increase in predator harvest in Washington is a very very good thing.  Bears kill a lot of caves.  A LOT!  I wish they would also make the harvesting of meat optional like Idaho.  I personally take meat, but the ultimate goal of predator hunting is to reduce the numbers.  This especially applies in Washington due to the wolf and lion situation. 

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #324 on: April 12, 2020, 12:14:24 PM »
Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be
I'm fully aware of how bear population is estimated.So when or if there is a decline in harvest we will lose opportunity.
As you know WDFW has a pretty good record for allowing over harvest ,then taking opportunity away. I've been emailing a few people at WDFW over spring permit numbers ect.It didn't sound as if permits numbers or any kind of spring bear season was gonna change.
But knowing how WDFW is you can see my concern.

Yeah, i see your concern, it goes in a pattern like this.

We need more predator control!

Oh no, they gave us more predator control, this is bad because if we kill more predators theyll take away our increased predator control!

Serious dude, just stop. 

Whats the point of having opportunity if youre afraid to yse it for fear of it being taken away?

Everybody should make sure not to kill predators so we can have good seasons?

You make no sense, you just look for things to complain about.  I think you enjoy being a massive pessimist naysayer.
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Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #325 on: April 13, 2020, 02:45:34 PM »
Just got this info.  Thats a hell of a big jump in 2nd bear tags sold.  Those additional 609 2nd bear tags sold brought in about $15,000 for wdfw, which im sure they will spend wisely  :chuckle:
« Last Edit: April 13, 2020, 07:05:44 PM by Bango skank »

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #326 on: April 13, 2020, 07:42:19 PM »
Hope they keep it for life
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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #327 on: April 13, 2020, 07:43:41 PM »
Hope they keep it for life

Have you ever known wdfw to give up a revenue source once they get it?

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Re: STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞
« Reply #328 on: April 13, 2020, 07:44:37 PM »
Just got this info.  Thats a hell of a big jump in 2nd bear tags sold.  Those additional 609 2nd bear tags sold brought in about $15,000 for wdfw, which im sure they will spend wisely  :chuckle:

That's good news. I was one of them, didn't get to fill the second one this year. Lookin forward to two notched bear tags this fall though!

 


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