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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2021, 07:46:04 AM »
Iím a 0% fan of conservation northwest.  And this whole cougar bull is smoke and mirrors to make a small special interest group happy.  Itís not helping any way in cougar harvest in this state.  Quotas should be larger and hounds should be legal for a take season.  I used to do it when it was legal here and it was one of my favorite things.  My grandpa did it from the late 60ís on and taught us the ropes.

You said it perfect. I see it only benefiting a "select few" like it has for the past many years. The same select few would rather it be that way too. Pathetic.

Pathetic is right,no joking there.
Sad reality is Washington will become California and cougar hunting will be erased. A bill such as this is needed for that direction. Cause who will deal with conflicts ,a houndsmen.
Cougar Hunting is purely recreation in some people's mind .
When some conservation groups can prove that it is purely recreation and hunters are no longer needed as a management tool ,bammm COUGAR HUNTING ERASED.

My advise go out and hunt cougar while we still can.
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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2021, 07:53:09 AM »
I was really excited about this bill two years ago, I was there when the senate approved it. Than I found out that it really doesn't change anything.... It just helped the select few, who could run dogs already, keep the ability to run dogs. Is it a step in the right direction? My opinion not really, but congrats those few who this bill effects.

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2021, 08:41:27 AM »
So basically it helps WDFW keep a cadre of hounds at their disposal.

Don't want to run problem cougar for us for free?   We'll find someone else for this program then...



Says right in there they gotta work closely with WDFW...means calling everywhere you go and working problem cougar at any time of day any day of the week.  Be OK for a retired guy I guess?

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2021, 08:59:52 AM »
Ive never been hound hunting, never owned hounds... I hear some of your guys gripes and kind of understand.

Sportsmen dont seem to accept incremental change like the Animal Rights crowd does! They celebrate every small victory and use it to launch a new attack.

Im happy for this victory and that I did my small part and sent in comments and encouraged my friends to do so.

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2021, 05:24:20 PM »

Sportsmen dont seem to accept incremental change like the Animal Rights crowd does! They celebrate every small victory and use it to launch a new attack.

Im happy for this victory and that I did my small part and sent in comments and encouraged my friends to do so.


Exactly.  We need to go after every opportunity we can

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2021, 06:45:47 PM »
Maybe this explains this guy showing up on one of my cameras this summer.

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2021, 10:17:14 PM »
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2021, 09:22:59 AM »

Sportsmen dont seem to accept incremental change like the Animal Rights crowd does! They celebrate every small victory and use it to launch a new attack.

Im happy for this victory and that I did my small part and sent in comments and encouraged my friends to do so.


Exactly.  We need to go after every opportunity we can
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In addition I would thinks it's wise to keep this in the correct context.  This is a conservation rule and bill. It is not a hunting proposal nor should it be considered as such. Although it may be a stop gap in our road to California management, it's definitely not a pathway. What's happening in Klickitat will fast track its to a California management scheme. You heard the widespread public outcry against Klickitat, including residents of the county.

And as for the voting by the commission, this was troubling. 3 commissioners voted against a conservation and public safety rule adoption. Very concerning.

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2021, 09:41:52 AM »
Tbar I think counties running cat possies will come to a head one way or the other.

1 come counties will choose to fight back and force the issue.

2 This pursit only training season will be too effective and bring forth too much data. The ARs wont stand for that and in a few years we will be right back where we are now...

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2021, 10:23:26 AM »
Tbar I think counties running cat possies will come to a head one way or the other.

1 come counties will choose to fight back and force the issue.

2 This pursit only training season will be too effective and bring forth too much data. The ARs wont stand for that and in a few years we will be right back where we are now...

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The counties are a couple court cases away from being restrained. Also they are going to be at a deficiency in terms of expertise, which the ngo crowd seems to have endless numbers of junk scientists.

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2021, 10:45:54 AM »
Tbar I think counties running cat possies will come to a head one way or the other.

1 come counties will choose to fight back and force the issue.

2 This pursit only training season will be too effective and bring forth too much data. The ARs wont stand for that and in a few years we will be right back where we are now...

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The counties are a couple court cases away from being restrained. Also they are going to be at a deficiency in terms of expertise, which the ngo crowd seems to have endless numbers of junk scientists.

Well I gues that means they should take the next couple of years to prepare and keep their powder dry because a showdown is inevitable... The AR wont stop, history has shown us that.
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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2021, 12:11:08 PM »
I would rather take the time to try to educate and change views. Also expose their deficiencies and build bridges. Good luck with your approach though Special T, I think in the end we both want to try to save hunting in this state.

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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2021, 12:14:12 PM »
I would rather take the time to try to educate and change views. Also expose their deficiencies and build bridges. Good luck with your approach though Special T, I think in the end we both want to try to save hunting in this state.

Build bridges with who exactly? The only group that we would greatly benifit from building bridges with is the general public so they have an Idea of what is going on...
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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2021, 12:39:46 PM »
I would rather take the time to try to educate and change views. Also expose their deficiencies and build bridges. Good luck with your approach though Special T, I think in the end we both want to try to save hunting in this state.

Build bridges with who exactly? The only group that we would greatly benifit from building bridges with is the general public so they have an Idea of what is going on...
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Re: Cougar pursuit ??
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2021, 03:33:21 PM »
The whole idea makes me want to puke! I read the story in the paper this am. The so called commissioners who voted against it are defiantly liberal whack jobs. I ran hounds for22 years before they were outlawed. We offered this option to the State for a couple of years after the season was lost to a bunch of uninformed hippies. No go. Now when the over population of cougars and bears is really starting to show, they want our help. The paper said there was 176 houndsman pushing for this and they want to give 50 permits! What about the rest of the dog men?  And yes problem bears were mentioned in the article. I say WDFW and the commissioners can stuff it. They were warned and did nothing to help the hunters at the time and now there trying to figure a cheap way out without looking bad. The hound hunters were an excellent control tool at the time. 

 


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