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Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« on: March 27, 2020, 08:25:09 PM »
I am still struggling with the fishing closure trying to figure why all fishing was closed because there were bank fishermen to close to each other in a few places? So why not offer WDFW some better options and see if they will modify the closure?

Here's some options:

- A fisherman cannot fish within six (6) feet of anyone you do not live with.
- A maximum travel distance restriction or 'must fish in your county of residence'.
- Salmon and steelhead fishing closed due to social distancing preventing checking requirements
- Salmon and steelhead fishermen required to observe social distancing during checking requirements
- Travel Advisory: Take food with you, when you fuel up do not enter quick stops, wear gloves or sanitize hands after fueling

That seems pretty darn simple... any other ideas?

« Last Edit: April 03, 2020, 08:39:41 AM by bearpaw »
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 08:33:12 PM »
Exactly, just a stupid decision that makes things easier for them.  Look at,I think its Missouri?  Giving away fishing licenses and turkey tags!
« Last Edit: March 27, 2020, 10:46:03 PM by Limhangerslayer »

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2020, 09:01:45 PM »
I agree stupid.

But I donít think it has anything to do with distance between fisherman. I think it is a travel issue. Lots of folks travel east to fish and I think that is what they donít want.

Lots of gas stops, and such spreading  the CV around.

Still donít like it.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2020, 09:03:09 PM »
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2020, 09:21:39 PM »
I was wondering if they could add a max travel distance requirement, or 'must fish in your county of residence'.

10' distance from others, excluding those that share a residence.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 09:37:39 PM »
Isn't Mardon at the Potholes a private launch?

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 09:44:39 PM »
I was wondering if they could add a max travel distance requirement, or 'must fish in your county of residence'.

10' distance from others, excluding those that share a residence.

It would be nice, but unrealistic.  Not enough game cops to be able to card everybody out fishing to confirm their county of residence .  Pretty much unenforcable.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 10:14:52 PM »
I am still struggling with the fishing closure trying to figure why all fishing was closed because there were bank fishermen to close to each other in a few places? So why not offer WDFW some better options and see if they will modify the closure?

Here's the first option I thought of:

A fisherman cannot fish within six (6) feet of anyone you do not live with.


That seems pretty darn simple... any other ideas?

How is it two nights ago I got told I was a selfish "me me me" sob because I did not agree with the fishing ban but you do not get the same treatment?

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2020, 10:21:18 PM »
I am still struggling with the fishing closure trying to figure why all fishing was closed because there were bank fishermen to close to each other in a few places? So why not offer WDFW some better options and see if they will modify the closure?

Here's the first option I thought of:

A fisherman cannot fish within six (6) feet of anyone you do not live with.


That seems pretty darn simple... any other ideas?

How is it two nights ago I got told I was a selfish "me me me" sob because I did not agree with the fishing ban but you do not get the same treatment?

Public opinion and general standards seem to change quick with the threat of turjey and spring bear shutdowns, dont they?  Seems like a lot more support for the "me me me" sentiment.  Funny how that works.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2020, 10:31:23 PM »
 :yeah:

I guess more people turkey hunt than fish. Ironically, the average distance driven to turkey hunt is probably much higher than that for fishing.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2020, 06:26:38 AM »
I still have a hard time buying into the belief all these sportsman related closures had anything to do with slowing the virus.
So I guess the other option would of been to just leave it alone.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2020, 07:27:17 AM »
They closed all fishing because people wonít do the right thing. Itís rare that anyone ever does.
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2020, 07:27:40 AM »
I am still struggling with the fishing closure trying to figure why all fishing was closed because there were bank fishermen to close to each other in a few places? So why not offer WDFW some better options and see if they will modify the closure?

Here's the first option I thought of:

A fisherman cannot fish within six (6) feet of anyone you do not live with.


That seems pretty darn simple... any other ideas?

How is it two nights ago I got told I was a selfish "me me me" sob because I did not agree with the fishing ban but you do not get the same treatment?

I'm not sure what happened to you, but I am trying to offer sensible options, the governor did tell people to get outdoors but then they shut down fishing, I am told because a few spots had bank fishermen next to each other. Maybe some better options could have been considered? Actually I'm not even planning a fishing trip, but I'm thinking about other people who could be fishing and still not in any danger if social distancing is exercised.
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2020, 07:33:52 AM »
This was the letter thay came out from the WDFW director.
Temporarily closing fishing and access to wildlife areas and water access sites was a difficult decision for DFW because we know how important these areas and opportunities are to you.  The health and well-being of all Washingtonians is critically important to us, especially in this time of stress and uncertainty.
 
This closure is crucial to implementing the Governorís Stay Home, Stay Healthy order and limit on non-essential travel.  Over the last weeks,  weíve seen large crowds at our stateís coastal beaches and riverbanks as people seek an outdoor get away.  In fact, in some places, it has been busier than we see in the peak of summer.
 
Some closures of recreational fishing were also legally necessary, as our staff are not able to conduct adequate fish sampling and monitoring under the Governor's order.  Many salmon and steelhead fisheries require regular monitoring under the Endangered Species Act (ESA), which includes conducting angler interviews at access sites surrounding the stateís marine waters.  The on-site, face-to-face nature of angler interviews puts people at risk of transmitting the coronavirus.  Without this monitoring, recreational fisheries need to close, consistent with our ESA permits that allow fisheries.
 
Fishing, boating, or hiking on public lands generally wouldnít violate social distancing guidance. But itís important to consider all the elements that go along with these activities:  leaving the house and driving to a boat ramp, stopping on the way to buy ice or gear, helping the angler on the boat ramp in front of you, filling up for gas, and visiting the local grocery store.  All of these interactions put you and local communities at risk. 
 
In addition, the influx of use that we witnessed over the weekend of March 21-22 created congested outdoor experiences very unlike what would normally be experienced.  We need to protect all Washingtonians, including coastal and rural communities that were being overwhelmed with out-of-area visitors.  We are cognizant of the impact of people travelling from highly impacted coronavirus areas to places that have just a handful of cases, and what it would mean to the healthcare system in those rural communities.  In addition, the influx of people shopping in local rural markets has a direct impact on seniors trying to buy food as close to home as possible.
 
So, please stay home and stay healthy.  You have a role in saving lives in your community and statewide. We wish for you and your friends and family to stay healthy too, so that you can return to the waterways and lands we all value once we return to normal.
 
We will revisit the closures to our lands recreational fishing on April 6, 2020.  For the latest information around our response to impacts from the spread of COVID-19, please continue to visit https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/covid-19-updates.
 


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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2020, 07:35:20 AM »
I am still struggling with the fishing closure trying to figure why all fishing was closed because there were bank fishermen to close to each other in a few places? So why not offer WDFW some better options and see if they will modify the closure?

Here's the first option I thought of:

A fisherman cannot fish within six (6) feet of anyone you do not live with.


That seems pretty darn simple... any other ideas?

How is it two nights ago I got told I was a selfish "me me me" sob because I did not agree with the fishing ban but you do not get the same treatment?

I'm not sure what happened to you, but I am trying to offer sensible options, the governor did tell people to get outdoors but then they shut down fishing, I am told because a few spots had bank fishermen next to each other. Maybe some better options could have been considered? Actually I'm not even planning a fishing trip, but I'm thinking about other people who could be fishing and still not in any danger if social distancing is exercised.
A good number of westside rivers for steelhead only really have a limited number of spots that hold fish.  5% ? of the river has the structure for them and that's being generous, the rest is just for passing through.  Of those spots, only a certain percentage are accessible to walking, have enough bank, not too brushy, not on private property, etc.  Tough for people that want to catch fish to spread out.  If it was a muddy river for catfish, you could probably spread everyone out.

 


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