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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #210 on: April 09, 2020, 04:48:32 PM »
It wouldn’t be quite as bad if it wasn’t the nicest weather ever for the first part of April

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #211 on: April 09, 2020, 04:50:08 PM »
It wouldn’t be quite as bad if it wasn’t the nicest weather ever for the first part of April
Nicest weather, tons of birds over bait down the strait, cheapest gas in memory....

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #212 on: April 09, 2020, 04:50:33 PM »
It wouldn’t be quite as bad if it wasn’t the nicest weather ever for the first part of April

My kid doesn't play baseball anymore but all his friends are saying the same thing for spring sports. Would of been a heck of a year for outdoor sports...but no.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #213 on: April 09, 2020, 04:51:39 PM »
The quicker you guys realize the fishing closure was never about stopping the covid,  the quicker you can assume the recovery position from the once over the state just gave us.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #214 on: April 09, 2020, 04:58:12 PM »
The quicker you guys realize the fishing closure was never about stopping the covid,  the quicker you can assume the recovery position from the once over the state just gave us.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #215 on: April 09, 2020, 05:05:31 PM »
The quicker you guys realize the fishing closure was never about stopping the covid,  the quicker you can assume the recovery position from the once over the state just gave us.

 :yeah:
I Agree.  :yeah:
Do we really think health officials/governor giving advise on restrictions give two $*i# about hunting/fishing.Lets not take away that golf.
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #216 on: April 09, 2020, 05:53:10 PM »
I'm going to a specific lake tomorrow. If I see even one ski boat bobbing around I'm launching my bass boat immediately. I'm pushing the fines and potential arrest, cause at this point, I absolutely dare them!! Unbelievable hypocrisy, unbelievable double standard, unbelievable profiling and discrimination taking place at this point!!

Shut it all down or come and get me.  :mor:

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #217 on: April 09, 2020, 05:58:08 PM »
I'm going to a specific lake tomorrow. If I see even one ski boat bobbing around I'm launching my bass boat immediately. I'm pushing the fines and potential arrest, cause at this point, I absolutely dare them!! Unbelievable hypocrisy, unbelievable double standard, unbelievable profiling and discrimination taking place at this point!!

Shut it all down or come and get me.  :mor:
I believe if your a first time trying to fish you will just get a warning.Just take your paper regs and say I don't keep up with social media.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #218 on: April 09, 2020, 09:25:41 PM »
I know some WA guys who were trying to do this right and bought OR non resident fishing licences to fish the columbia.  But, OR just stopped this practice.

https://www.kptv.com/news/odfw-closing-hunting-and-fishing-in-oregon-to-people-who-don-t-live-in-the/article_6dfb85b6-7ac1-11ea-90cb-cb272e607b82.html

SALEM, OR (KPTV) - The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife is closing hunting, fishing, crabbing and clamming to people who do not live in the state.

Officials said the decision was made to limit travelers coming to Oregon to take part in outdoor activities during the COVID-19 pandemic.

“Such travel could spread the virus and put more of a burden on Oregon’s rural communities,” according to ODFW.

The restrictions go into effect at 11:59 p.m. Friday (4/10), and will remain in place until it is deemed safe to travel into Oregon again.

The order does not apply to those living in Oregon for less than six months who have not yet established residency.

Some states, including Washington, have previously closed hunting and fishing to limit the spread of the virus, according to ODFW. While seasons remain open in Oregon, except for Columbia River salmon and steelhead fishing, resident hunters and anglers should not be travelling to participate. ODFW is hearing concerns from rural communities about people visiting to hunt and fish and placing additional burdens on the limited resources of those areas.

ODFW monitoring has shown that while Oregonians are still participating in fisheries, clamming, shed hunting, and wildlife viewing, it is in significantly lower numbers and that the majority of participants are doing it close to home and practicing social distancing.

ODFW anticipates there will be opportunity for non-residents who have already purchased a 2020 license to participate in hunting, fishing or shellfish opportunities later in the year. ODFW will refund non-resident spring bear and spring turkey tags and reinstate preference points for spring bear hunters. Refund information: odfw.websales@state.or.us, 503-947-6101.

Non-residents interested in a fall controlled hunt may still apply online at https://odfw.huntfishoregon.com/login and the deadline remains May 15, 2020.
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #219 on: April 10, 2020, 05:40:56 PM »
Oregon: supports their hunters and anglers.
Idaho: supports their hunters and anglers.
Montana: supports their hunters and anglers.
as well as numerous other States nationwide!

Washington: supports their governor.  :bash:

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #220 on: April 10, 2020, 05:46:58 PM »
 :yeah:

And the upcoming seasons look dismal


April 10, 2020
Contact: Kyle Adicks, 360-902-2664
Media inquiries: Ben Anderson, 360-480-4465

Washington's salmon seasons tentatively set for 2020-21

OLYMPIA – Continued low returns of some key Chinook salmon stocks are expected to limit numerous Washington salmon fisheries in the upcoming season, state fishery managers announced today.

The state's 2020-21 salmon fishing seasons, developed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and treaty tribal co-managers, were tentatively set today during the Pacific Fishery Management Council's (PFMC) meeting, which was held via webinar due to concerns related to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

"These seasons were determined with the goal of meeting conservation objectives while offering opportunities whenever possible, but we had some tough decisions to make this year," said WDFW Director Kelly Susewind. "We appreciate the hard work of co-managers and everyone else who sat through long teleconferences and webinars to determine these seasons."

"This was another difficult year with so many depressed stocks as a result of lost and damaged habitat," said Lorraine Loomis, Chair of the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. "I am especially encouraged by efforts this year to include habitat recovery in fisheries planning. Salmon continue to decline because their habitat is being lost faster than it can be restored and protected. Working together to change that trend is the most important thing we can do for salmon recovery."   

Season recommendations now move forward for approval by the National Marine Fisheries Service and final rulemaking, including additional opportunity for public comment and consideration of those comments. 

Puget Sound

Low returns of Stillaguamish and mid-Hood Canal Chinook, as well as Snohomish coho limited a number of Puget Sound fisheries in 2019, and created even greater constraints in 2020. That includes closing fishing for winter Chinook in East Juan De Fuca Strait (Marine Area 6), the San Juan Islands (Marine Area 7), Deception Pass and Port Gardner (areas 8-1 and 8-2), Admiralty Inlet (Marine Area 9), Tacoma-Vashon Island (Marine Area 11) and Hood Canal (Marine Area 12), with some exceptions for Chinook non-retention in Hood Canal in November and December. Summer seasons in Deception Pass and Port Gardner are also closed to protect coho.

Susewind said the department recognizes that many of these fisheries have seen continued declines in opportunity in recent years.

"This is never the outcome we hope for, but until these stocks rebound, this is an unfortunate reality," Susewind said. "We continue working alongside the public and tribal, state, and federal partners to address all the factors impacting these critical runs."

This summer, Chinook fisheries are expected to be largely similar to last year, with most Puget Sound marine areas opening for Chinook retention beginning in July or August. Summer Chinook fisheries are expected to begin July 1 in marine areas 5, 6, 7, and 11.

Columbia River

The summer salmon fishery will again be closed to summer Chinook retention (including jacks), though stronger forecasts allow for sockeye retention in 2020, a change from last year. That fishery will need to be closely monitored in-season if returns come in lower than expected, said Kyle Adicks, salmon fisheries policy lead for WDFW.

Fall Chinook fisheries will be open under various regulations. Waters from Buoy 10 upstream to the Puget Island will be open Aug. 16-27 for Chinook, and will remain open for coho afterwards.  Most of the waters upstream will open Aug. 1, but Warrior Rock to Bonneville Dam will open Fri., Sat., and Sun. from Aug. 7 through Sept. 6.   

Steelhead fisheries in the Columbia and Snake rivers this season will again be very limited and additional protective measures will be in place due to continued low returns of steelhead.

Washington's ocean waters

Initial ocean fisheries reflect a reduced coho quota due to significantly lower projected returns in 2020. All four of Washington's marine areas are scheduled to open June 20 for a Chinook-only fishery, then transition to a Chinook and coho fishery beginning June 29.  Daily limits and days of the week open to salmon fishing vary between areas.

More information

COVID-19 remains a factor going into the upcoming summer and fall fishing seasons, with the potential to continue impacting fisheries as the year continues, said WDFW Director Susewind. Many of the conversations during this week's PFMC meeting included consideration of ongoing coronavirus impacts.

"The coronavirus remains the biggest unknown as we move ahead in the 2020 and 2021 fishing seasons," Susewind said. As with every aspect of life these days, we'll have to be flexible to respond to any public health concerns."

Additional information about this year's sport salmon fisheries and the North of Falcon process can be found on WDFW's website at https://wdfw.wa.gov/nof.

For information on tribal fisheries, contact the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission (http://nwifc.org).

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife is the primary state agency tasked with preserving, protecting, and perpetuating fish, wildlife, and ecosystems, while providing sustainable fishing, hunting, and other recreation opportunities.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #221 on: April 10, 2020, 06:45:48 PM »
:yeah:

And the upcoming seasons look dismal


April 10, 2020
Contact: Kyle Adicks, 360-902-2664
Media inquiries: Ben Anderson, 360-480-4465

Washington's salmon seasons tentatively set for 2020-21

OLYMPIA – Continued low returns of some key Chinook salmon stocks are expected to limit numerous Washington salmon fisheries in the upcoming season, state fishery managers announced today.

The state's 2020-21 salmon fishing seasons, developed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and treaty tribal co-managers, were tentatively set today during the Pacific Fishery Management Council's (PFMC) meeting, which was held via webinar due to concerns related to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

"These seasons were determined with the goal of meeting conservation objectives while offering opportunities whenever possible, but we had some tough decisions to make this year," said WDFW Director Kelly Susewind. "We appreciate the hard work of co-managers and everyone else who sat through long teleconferences and webinars to determine these seasons."

"This was another difficult year with so many depressed stocks as a result of lost and damaged habitat," said Lorraine Loomis, Chair of the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. "I am especially encouraged by efforts this year to include habitat recovery in fisheries planning. Salmon continue to decline because their habitat is being lost faster than it can be restored and protected. Working together to change that trend is the most important thing we can do for salmon recovery."   

Season recommendations now move forward for approval by the National Marine Fisheries Service and final rulemaking, including additional opportunity for public comment and consideration of those comments. 

Puget Sound

Low returns of Stillaguamish and mid-Hood Canal Chinook, as well as Snohomish coho limited a number of Puget Sound fisheries in 2019, and created even greater constraints in 2020. That includes closing fishing for winter Chinook in East Juan De Fuca Strait (Marine Area 6), the San Juan Islands (Marine Area 7), Deception Pass and Port Gardner (areas 8-1 and 8-2), Admiralty Inlet (Marine Area 9), Tacoma-Vashon Island (Marine Area 11) and Hood Canal (Marine Area 12), with some exceptions for Chinook non-retention in Hood Canal in November and December. Summer seasons in Deception Pass and Port Gardner are also closed to protect coho.

Susewind said the department recognizes that many of these fisheries have seen continued declines in opportunity in recent years.

"This is never the outcome we hope for, but until these stocks rebound, this is an unfortunate reality," Susewind said. "We continue working alongside the public and tribal, state, and federal partners to address all the factors impacting these critical runs."

This summer, Chinook fisheries are expected to be largely similar to last year, with most Puget Sound marine areas opening for Chinook retention beginning in July or August. Summer Chinook fisheries are expected to begin July 1 in marine areas 5, 6, 7, and 11.

Columbia River

The summer salmon fishery will again be closed to summer Chinook retention (including jacks), though stronger forecasts allow for sockeye retention in 2020, a change from last year. That fishery will need to be closely monitored in-season if returns come in lower than expected, said Kyle Adicks, salmon fisheries policy lead for WDFW.

Fall Chinook fisheries will be open under various regulations. Waters from Buoy 10 upstream to the Puget Island will be open Aug. 16-27 for Chinook, and will remain open for coho afterwards.  Most of the waters upstream will open Aug. 1, but Warrior Rock to Bonneville Dam will open Fri., Sat., and Sun. from Aug. 7 through Sept. 6.   

Steelhead fisheries in the Columbia and Snake rivers this season will again be very limited and additional protective measures will be in place due to continued low returns of steelhead.

Washington's ocean waters

Initial ocean fisheries reflect a reduced coho quota due to significantly lower projected returns in 2020. All four of Washington's marine areas are scheduled to open June 20 for a Chinook-only fishery, then transition to a Chinook and coho fishery beginning June 29.  Daily limits and days of the week open to salmon fishing vary between areas.

More information

COVID-19 remains a factor going into the upcoming summer and fall fishing seasons, with the potential to continue impacting fisheries as the year continues, said WDFW Director Susewind. Many of the conversations during this week's PFMC meeting included consideration of ongoing coronavirus impacts.

"The coronavirus remains the biggest unknown as we move ahead in the 2020 and 2021 fishing seasons," Susewind said. As with every aspect of life these days, we'll have to be flexible to respond to any public health concerns."

Additional information about this year's sport salmon fisheries and the North of Falcon process can be found on WDFW's website at https://wdfw.wa.gov/nof.

For information on tribal fisheries, contact the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission (http://nwifc.org).

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife is the primary state agency tasked with preserving, protecting, and perpetuating fish, wildlife, and ecosystems, while providing sustainable fishing, hunting, and other recreation opportunities.


until we can end/seriously limit the commercial fishing of salmon and steelhead in the Columbia River system, salmon and steelhead seasons are basically over, especially for us East siders

Edit to add:
The wholesale slaughter of sea lions and seals moving upstream feeding on the spawning fish would help as well
« Last Edit: April 10, 2020, 07:26:01 PM by JJB11B »
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #222 on: April 10, 2020, 07:01:30 PM »
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"This was another difficult year with so many depressed stocks as a result of lost and damaged habitat,"

 So the poor return is due to habitat loss?
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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #223 on: April 10, 2020, 07:17:43 PM »
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"This was another difficult year with so many depressed stocks as a result of lost and damaged habitat,"

 So the poor return is due to habitat loss?


 :yeah:  That’s the sentence of the whole thing that stood out the most to me. Frigin BS. No blackmouth fishing north of ayock in area 12 is rediculous. That’s the fishery I hit the most.

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Re: Fishing Closure, what other options were available?
« Reply #224 on: April 10, 2020, 07:32:30 PM »
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"This was another difficult year with so many depressed stocks as a result of lost and damaged habitat,"

 So the poor return is due to habitat loss?


 :yeah:  That’s the sentence of the whole thing that stood out the most to me. Frigin BS. No blackmouth fishing north of ayock in area 12 is rediculous. That’s the fishery I hit the most.

The 6-9 Winter closures are huge...they are killing several high dollar - high local income derbies.

 


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