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ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« on: April 08, 2020, 08:01:27 PM »
I am in need of some subsonic .223, 5.56, or .308 ammo. All of the stores and websites are out of stock. I have a coyote problem on my property and some neighbors that are liberals so need something quiet. Please let me know what you have. I am in Roy wa.

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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2020, 06:18:52 PM »
Subsonic 223/556 is going to be pretty weak and without a can isnt that much diferent than supersonic IMHO

 I bet someone could load some 220 grain below 1125 fps for the 308

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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 06:36:57 PM »
I reload and could help you if I were closer.  Hopefully someone else reloads and can help who lives closer.

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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2020, 09:17:54 PM »
I reload and could help you if I were closer.  Hopefully someone else reloads and can help who lives closer.

Most of us who reload know better than to load ammo for someone else, especially subsonics in large cases like 308 & 223.

Walmart sells subsonic 223. It's labeled "22 LR".  :o

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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2020, 08:04:35 AM »
You don't want to shoot a yote with a sub 223. Look at the energy at 50 yards. That is really why there isn't much of a market for them.

308 subs are going to be loud without a can. Not as loud as an AR but still around pistol range.






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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2020, 09:00:31 AM »
This will do the job if it is well placed.  It's very quiet, even un-suppressed, and it isn't too hard to find.






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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2020, 09:10:12 AM »
You don't want to shoot a yote with a sub 223. Look at the energy at 50 yards. That is really why there isn't much of a market for them.

308 subs are going to be loud without a can. Not as loud as an AR but still around pistol range.

Sure I think we'd all prefer to hit a coyote with a full power 223, 22-250, 243 etc.  But when noise is a primary concern we have to make compromises. 

I've spoken to people who have taken out 20+  coyotes in neighborhoods with 22 and 25 cal suppressed (Moderated) PCP air rifles that have about 1/2 the energy of a 22lr.  They understand their limitations and only take headshots at 20-50 yds.

I would need more info before suggesting a load for buchanan, but generally would recommend a subsonic .308 over a subsonic 223 unless pass-through and richochets are a concern.  That just depends what range he is shooting at and if he has a good backstop.

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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2020, 10:06:21 AM »
As mentioned you will need a can for it to truly be quiet.  muzzle blast is every bit as loud or louder than the sonic crack.  It is the muzzle blast that people hear as the "gunshot".

Any chance you shoot archery, that could be another option? 

Barring that stay 308 subsonic with a can.  If you can reload then I would recommend the Maker's REX or maybe Lehigh bullets, they are designed to expand at subsonic speeds.

I am betting you could find a few guys on here that would be willing to help you remove the vermin from your property so you do not have to buy special ammo, etc..  might be worth posting a request thread?
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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2020, 11:26:48 AM »
I have a multi caliber can that fits both my ar and 308. I would prefer 308 but would settle for 223. This isn't my first rodeo I know what a 308 and 223 subsonic can do and the benefits of each one. Just having trouble finding the ammo I need at the moment. So figured I'd reach out here.

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Re: ISO. Subsonic 308, subsonic .223, or subsonic 5.56 ammo
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2020, 01:37:09 PM »
Sure I think we'd all prefer to hit a coyote with a full power 223, 22-250, 243 etc.  But when noise is a primary concern we have to make compromises. 

I get that and I still think sub 223 on a coyote is too light.

$150 crossbow with a red dot is the way to go.

 


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