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Who trains for woods carry?
« on: June 19, 2021, 01:53:32 PM »
A lot of us train for tatical carry, self defense carry, or just have fun with recreational shooting..but who trains for woods carry?

Who throws on their packs, their bino harnesses, a rain jacket or down parka, and practices their preferred woods carry method?

I've seen many different forms of woods carry and tried out a number if them myself, from drop leg, to low ride to chest rigs...I'm not so interested in your particular method of carry that works for you, but what you do to practice.

Literally all of my shooting is tactical and self defensive in nature, but it doesn't all carry over smoothly to woods carry.

I've practiced drawing while riding a bicycle, I've practiced while walking with sticks,
I've practiced spinning around 180 degrees, I've shot from my back, belly, sideways, kneeling and from fetal positions. 

I need to practice with an 80lb pack on, haven't done that!

Who does these things? and what do you do?
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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2021, 01:55:29 PM »
Thatís why I carry in the same position with the same holster in the woods.


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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2021, 03:52:49 PM »
Thatís why I carry in the same position with the same holster in the woods.


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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2021, 04:31:11 PM »
Hip holster, same gun, same place in town or in the woods.


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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2021, 05:07:01 PM »
I use an exo pack and the belt is pretty thick, I could use a hip holster and safariiland quick attach to get it out further to clear tbe belt, but I've found I prefer the chest holster for long days of humping through heavy brush.

I'm more interested in the training though than the gear.


I'd love to stick this out in a trail brushed in and have people suprised by it, and try to shoot it before it "gets you"


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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2021, 05:13:47 PM »
Interesting KF what do you think that the charge distance would be to have the charge?

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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2021, 05:17:26 PM »
I also have the exo pack. I put my pistol holster on the skinny Velcro strap that is on the waist belt. Probably usually would hold a pouch

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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2021, 05:34:32 PM »
I also have the exo pack. I put my pistol holster on the skinny Velcro strap that is on the waist belt. Probably usually would hold a pouch
That's what that guide in Montana did, when the bear charged....his pack was "over there"

He had about 3 seconds to react, he needed 15,  since the gun was with his pack "over there" he would have had to see, recognize the threat, and move to the gun, deploy it, and be effective in its use. 

With the safariiland you can get a quick disconnect and transfer the pustol to your hip, but that's a lot of messing around.

You need to develop musle memory and habit, in a panic your hand lands on the pistol automagicly and its in play, moving the pistol around to different positions on your body doesn't aid in that.
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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2021, 05:47:18 PM »
Interesting KF what do you think that the charge distance would be to have the charge?
I guess I don't understand the question fully?

At what distances do bears decide to charge, or not to charge, is the question 🤔
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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2021, 05:50:37 PM »
If you are going to set this up what distance would you want for this to be.  Under 30 yards or under 100 yards.
I am just trying to make sense of your scenario.
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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2021, 05:52:56 PM »
This ----->  I've practiced spinning around 180 degrees, I've shot from my back, belly, sideways, kneeling and from fetal positions. 1 hand and left hand shots are fun.  I've also practiced spinng around with my bow in hand one handed shooting it's a waaaay different ball game with a 10mm and 1 hand.  Like you i want to be ready in the case of a bear charge. I've also found some narly/ scary looking grizz targets to use. I tried to have a person move the target closer as i'm shooting at the gun range to simulate a charge which is super great practice but they don't like it nor did they really like the grizz target. :dunno: :dunno: :chuckle: :tup:  This is why i tried and love the ghost ring sight on the 10 for woods carry anything inside the ring is center mass and its fail safe.  :tup:
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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2021, 06:07:10 PM »
If you are going to set this up what distance would you want for this to be.  Under 30 yards or under 100 yards.
I am just trying to make sense of your scenario.
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I don't see a point in 100 yards, as we prolly shouldn't be shooting at bear that far away, but I'd use the time to start backing away and having pistol ready.

At 30 yards I'm shooting.

So I'd set it up where it takes the bear 3 seconds to reach you at charging speed, in that three seconds I'd expect 3 rounds fired and 3 good hits on the bear. 


You could practice this,

3 seconds
3 shots
3 inch circle

Do it at 3 yards to start.



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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2021, 06:09:43 PM »
So are you aiming at his face, Forehead

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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2021, 06:13:31 PM »
This ----->  I've practiced spinning around 180 degrees, I've shot from my back, belly, sideways, kneeling and from fetal positions. 1 hand and left hand shots are fun.  I've also practiced spinng around with my bow in hand one handed shooting it's a waaaay different ball game with a 10mm and 1 hand.  Like you i want to be ready in the case of a bear charge. I've also found some narly/ scary looking grizz targets to use. I tried to have a person move the target closer as i'm shooting at the gun range to simulate a charge which is super great practice but they don't like it nor did they really like the grizz target. :dunno: :dunno: :chuckle: :tup:  This is why i tried and love the ghost ring sight on the 10 for woods carry anything inside the ring is center mass and its fail safe.  :tup:
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Re: Who trains for woods carry?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2021, 06:15:42 PM »
I am guessing that the kill zone would be about the size of your daughter's soccer ball.
So have a by stander roll it down hill from your choice of distance and since it is not a perfect flat or level surface might be good enough.
But I am not sure how you will replicate the chunks of adrenaline the size of your fist in your system.

 


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