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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2021, 04:10:14 PM »
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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2021, 04:26:59 PM »
I’m pretty sure that nannie identifies as a male!!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2021, 05:27:04 PM »
Look at this one. What do you think. Crappy pick but I got to see him real close

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2021, 08:14:19 PM »



45 7/8. 9”x9”
Not sure if you want “average” billies in your file but don’t shoot one like this on baker.

Crazy how small a difference there is between an average Billy and a giant.
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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2021, 09:07:40 PM »



45 7/8. 9”x9”
Not sure if you want “average” billies in your file but don’t shoot one like this on baker.

Crazy how small a difference there is between an average Billy and a giant.
First that's not an "average" Billy.  It's a great mature Billy that anyone should be proud of. Different mountains grow better animals and genetic variances have an effect as well.  You won't see raffle or auction tag holders hunting certain units.  Congrats on you goat and you are absolutely right.  I spent over an hour trying to break down a first second shooter. It's crazy how they seem to grow and shrink in the spotter.  Big nannies will play tricks on you mentally as well. Congrats on the tag Shane!

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2021, 01:16:46 PM »
Congrats Shane!
Best wishes on the amazing journey this will be.  :tup:

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2021, 02:00:20 PM »
Really stupid question here, but can nannies be in the books or is it just billies?  That nanny looks like a record goat!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2021, 02:36:00 PM »
I'm not claiming to be an established expert on this, but length is only 1 of the 5 measurements, with the other 4 being circumference. Nannies typically don't have the mass even if they might have 11"+ horns.

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2021, 03:26:56 PM »
Congrats!  I've been off here for a while, and this was the first post I saw!
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #69 on: July 26, 2021, 11:22:55 AM »
Congratulations on a great tag!
Start of a great adventure.

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #70 on: July 26, 2021, 12:37:36 PM »
I'm not claiming to be an established expert on this, but length is only 1 of the 5 measurements, with the other 4 being circumference. Nannies typically don't have the mass even if they might have 11"+ horns.

As far as I know, there are no nannies in the record book but I can't find anything concrete to prove one way or the other.  There is no "sort by sex" in the B&C database.  I perused a LOT of the lower scoring goats and none have mass measurements that indicate to me it's a nanny.  I really think a nanny's horns are just so less massive than a billy's that it just isn't possible to make up for the lack of mass measurements, even if you shot a 12" goat which gives you 4" of extra length measurements compared to another "large" billy.  I actually have a mounted nanny in my garage from my father-in-law.  I'll try to take the time to do some mass measurements this week just to get an idea of how they would compare even with a small billy.  We could probably do some guesttimating math to figure out if it would even be possible for a nanny to qualify.

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1st Scouting Trip with my 6 year old son
« Reply #71 on: July 26, 2021, 12:51:26 PM »
I made it out on my first scouting trip this past weekend.  My 6 year old son Baker and my 4 year old daughter Nova really want to be involved in this hunt as much as possible.  Realistically I can't foresee them getting out with me when I'm actually hunting so I'm making an effort to have them both with me on scouting trips as much as possible.  Baker is quite the hiker and was all in on a scouting trip this weekend.  We hit one of the common goat hunting areas around Baker (I'm sure a lot of you will recognize the area based on pictures) and Baker hiked the entire way into the heart of goat country.  I did put him in my Kifaru pack for the final 150 foot snow field to the ridge top as it was just too steep for him to safely navigate on his own. 

More photos always available on my website: https://www.lonegoatmedia.com/Hunting/2021-Washington/

Here's a video of a past hunter in this area.  Around 5:30 mark of the video you can see how I get down the snowfield when I don't have a kid with me.  :)

The weekend was a huge success.  I do hope to put together a full video recap of the day but for now some pictures will have to do:

Mt. Baker goat country!


Bug nets were definitely needed this weekend.  :)



This country never gets old!



Baker was having the time of his life!


Getting tired on the final ascent:


Some ptarmigan were a great distraction.  (Baker REALLY wanted to pet one!)
(Notice 2x ptarmigan, one on left of trail one on right.)



Successful summit!


Goat country:




Ended up spotting a nursery herd of 60 goats:



Total trip was 8 miles with 2250 feet elevation gain.




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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #72 on: July 26, 2021, 02:31:20 PM »
Those photos are stunning, and your kid is a beast!! Congrats to him on making it to the top. BTW, when did KUIU start making a Lightning McQueen youth jacket?

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #73 on: July 26, 2021, 02:53:45 PM »
following along

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Re: 2021 Raffle Mountain Goat Tag!!!
« Reply #74 on: July 26, 2021, 02:56:50 PM »
BTW, when did KUIU start making a Lightning McQueen youth jacket?

Oh man, can you imagine!  My boy would be STOKED!!!  :chuckle: :IBCOOL:

 


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