What do you recommend for a 1/2 ton pickup? ~$25,000

[b23]

if you think chevy 5.3 are bulletproof you havent owned one with cylinder canceling, hope you save 9k for a new engine and while your at it go ahead and save for the tranny, silverados and f-150 keep our shop very busy. buy a tundra and dont look back.

Not saying one is any better than the other but in all fairness they sell more Ford and Chevy/GMC pickups in one month than Toyota sells Tundra's in a whole year so naturally you're going to see a lot more of those than the other.

[MHWASH]

 I'm not ruling Tundra's out, but I've heard the mileage isn't that great on them. Also looking for a nice ride in the mountains, not like my 3/4 ton, which I'll be keeping for the heavy hauls.

Something else I'm wondering about is the off road type packages such as the Z71 or Ford's FX4. Do these provide a smoother or rougher ride when on rough Forest roads?

[NRA4LIFE]

I am somewhat in the same boat.  I have been looking to replace my '02 GMC 3/4 ton since September.  Found one in October, put a down payment on it and the salesman pulled the rug out from under me the night before I was to pick it up.  Ordered a new one in April only to have GM reject my order saying no new orders until 2022.  Any new ones I can find are now 5K or more over MSRP.  Wait if you can, that's what I've resigned myself to do.

[Karl Blanchard]

Can't get a tundra with a crew cab and a 6ft bed.

[johnbmyersii]

I'm not ruling Tundra's out, but I've heard the mileage isn't that great on them. Also looking for a nice ride in the mountains, not like my 3/4 ton, which I'll be keeping for the heavy hauls.

Something else I'm wondering about is the off road type packages such as the Z71 or Ford's FX4. Do these provide a smoother or rougher ride when on rough Forest roads?

Ive had a 18 f150 FX4 and currently a 20 f150 regular 4x4. I cant tell a difference between the fx4 and regular 4x4. The one nice thing about the fx4 was the hill decent control mode but I dont miss it on the new truck. If you get a ford make sure its got the locking diff

[Lokaybinnity]

i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.   

[bushmantom]

https://www.doxontoyota.com/auto/used-2016-toyota-tundra-limited-double-cab-57l-v8-4wd-auburn-wa/56998366/

No affiliation with the seller but who is paying that much fo a truck with 360,000 miles on it.

[fishngamereaper]

I've had a couple z71s  early one 92  had a 5.7, newer ish one 99 had 5.3. No issues with either one ..easy to work on to.....99 rode like a Cadillac...

All my stuff now is hd stuff so no recommendations on never models.

[jackelope]

i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.   

LOL.
You should drive one of the 3.5 Ecoboosts.
I don't disagree that the 5.0 is a good engine and something that should be considered, but the 3.5 ecoboost will run circles around the 5.0 from a power standpoint, especially when towing.

[vandeman17]

i have a 2013 f 150 with the 5.0 its a power house and i havnt had a single problem stay a way from the eco beast no replacement for displacement. a truck shouldn't need a turbo unless its a diesel.   

LOL.
You should drive one of the 3.5 Ecoboosts.
I don't disagree that the 5.0 is a good engine and something that should be considered, but the 3.5 ecoboost will run circles around the 5.0 from a power standpoint, especially when towing.

I have the 3.5 ecoboost and can attest to this

[slowhand]

@slowhand - are doing away with the 5.7 in the Tundra and only going to a v-6 turbo ?

Not that I am aware of.
I know we will have a hybrid model tundra next year.
In one of my tech classes I complained about having to buy a super duty to get a diesel tow vehicle. Being a Toyota master tech driving a Ford I get a lot of poo from everyone.
The instructor said he got to drive one of the pre production hybrid tundras, he said you definitely will not want a diesel after you drive the hybrid tundra (massive amounts of powers).
We will see
I love love my ‘15 6.7 diesel f350
It’s been nothing short of perfect since new

[jackelope]

I think when the time comes and the prices are (more?) right, I'd find a 15 or newer F150 with either the 5.0 or the 3.5eb, super crew with the 6.5' bed. PS the beds are either 5.5' or 6.5'. No 6' bed. You can get the 3.5eb with max tow and be rated to tow 13k pounds if it's properly equipped.

[actionshooter]

This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received  a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....

[jackelope]

This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received  a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....

We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week.  I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.

It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.

[follow maggie]

This is just me but I have been holding off this year because of the crazy prices... I just heard a rumor that Ford received  a bunch of the computer chips they were waiting for to ship F150s out.... can't confirm if it's true (Jackelope?) but after the stockpiled trucks start hitting the lots, I'm guessing there are going to be some serious deals and 0% financing offers....

We got a few new trucks and transit vans in this week.  I heard rumor that they’re going to ship trucks without the chips and have us install them after the fact too. Can’t confirm that.

It’s not just trucks either. We’ve got 12-15 Focus and Fiesta’a sitting here with bad transmission control modules waiting for parts that we can’t get.

Saw this on the news last week. Ford is running out of storage space.