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[baldopepper]

All the known Dems on this site that regularly post are awfully quiet when it comes to posting on this thread... 

They are responsible for keeping Inslee in office and they know it! Anyone who supports the "D" party in WA has brought this upon us all! 

Well I'm a moderate D.  I don't like what I'm seeing anymore than the R's do..  Difference is some of us try to work, so to speak, from the inside. First off, I don't really think Inslee cares one way or another about hunting,  he just cares about getting reelected and keeping the D's in power.  On one side he had the vocal hunters out there who call him names and vow to never vote for him or a Democrat. On the other side he has the vocal anti hunters who praise him and vow to always vote to keep the D's  in control. Not hard to guess who he panders to.  Believe it or not, there are a lot of us D's who are very pro hunting rights and feel the only way to get change is to push those pro hunting d's to the forefront. Let's face it, this state Is a Democrat stronghold and only getting more so. Hunting rights are very low on the rung for why most people in this state choose a candidate, in fact a heavy percentage vote mostly along party lines.  Guess what I'm saying is we're better off backing candidates who support us, and can win a statewide vote, than we are sticking with party lines and backing a looser. There are democrats out there who do support hunting rights, in fact probably more that do than don't. We just need to support them when they run for office in this state. This ain't Idaho.

   

Did you vote for Inslee? I understand your idea and it could make sense  but did you vote for Inslee? I just watch the politics from across the border in Idaho but it amazes me that he continues to get elected. If you voted for Inslee your idea makes no sense and you would be part of the problem and responsible for the loss of hunting opportunities.

I ,like many others, am not a one issue voter.  Hunting rights , while important to me, are not the single issue determing how I vote. This past election, like others, was an election where I took issue with many stances both candidates took.I try to weigh those issues and vote accordingly, rarely entirely happy with the choices  yes, I did vote for Inslee.  Voted the first time in 1968, had to be 21 to vote, and hate to say it , but have voted against someone more often than I've voted for someone.  Hope to see someday a candidate that I truly 100% agreed with. Not holding out hope.

[cem3434]

Thornburn, McIssac, Anderson and Linville all get it.  They sounded frustrated that new commissioners would come on board and change the direction of the commission without getting themselves informed on the issues.

And, as stated in the other thread, the very first thing we should all do is thank them for their work, efforts, support of science, and general sanity! If any of them bail we're in a world of hurt.

Donald.Mcisaac@dfw.wa.gov
Kim.Thorburn@dfw.wa.gov
Molly.Linville@dfw.wa.gov
James.Anderson@dfw.wa.gov

Done, thanks for posting their emails up.

[hughjorgan]

This is 2022 not 1990. There is NO such thing as a moderate democrat.

You are 100% wrong!   Kind of thinking that keeps the divide so wide. Far more moderate democrats and moderate republicans than the far left and far right loud mouths that seem to catch all the attention.

You are 100 percent correct baldopepper, the moderates from the left and the right are in charge and are making a mess of things

[Igor]

This is 2022 not 1990. There is NO such thing as a moderate democrat.

You are 100% wrong!   Kind of thinking that keeps the divide so wide. Far more moderate democrats and moderate republicans than the far left and far right loud mouths that seem to catch all the attention.

You are 100 percent correct baldopepper, the moderates from the left and the right are in charge and are making a mess of things

Yep..........the "moderates" will just compromise and compromise, until there is nothing left to compromise............

[hughjorgan]

This is 2022 not 1990. There is NO such thing as a moderate democrat.

You are 100% wrong!   Kind of thinking that keeps the divide so wide. Far more moderate democrats and moderate republicans than the far left and far right loud mouths that seem to catch all the attention.

You are 100 percent correct baldopepper, the moderates from the left and the right are in charge and are making a mess of things

Yep..........the "moderates" will just compromise and compromise, until there is nothing left to compromise............

My post should of read the FAR left and right, moderates are what we need

[Torrent50]

Thornburn, McIssac, Anderson and Linville all get it.  They sounded frustrated that new commissioners would come on board and change the direction of the commission without getting themselves informed on the issues.

And, as stated in the other thread, the very first thing we should all do is thank them for their work, efforts, support of science, and general sanity! If any of them bail we're in a world of hurt.

Donald.Mcisaac@dfw.wa.gov
Kim.Thorburn@dfw.wa.gov
Molly.Linville@dfw.wa.gov
James.Anderson@dfw.wa.gov

I emailed all the commissioners today.  Thanking these 4 and expressing my concerns with the other 5.  I got a response from Commissioner Baker already and have a meeting set up with her in a couple of weeks.  It will be a good time to express my concerns and hear her point of view first hand in a less official setting.  Hoping it goes well.

[dreamingbig]

Aren’t we losing 2 more of the remaining 4 commissioners at years end?  2023 will be a 7-2 vote in favor of antihunting…. Inslee has had the power to squash hunting as we have known it.  What seasons will be around in 2024?


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[KFhunter]

This is 2022 not 1990. There is NO such thing as a moderate democrat.

You are 100% wrong!   Kind of thinking that keeps the divide so wide. Far more moderate democrats and moderate republicans than the far left and far right loud mouths that seem to catch all the attention.

You are 100 percent correct baldopepper, the moderates from the left and the right are in charge and are making a mess of things

Yep..........the "moderates" will just compromise and compromise, until there is nothing left to compromise............

My post should of read the FAR left and right, moderates are what we need

Trump is a moderate, many on the far right became anti-Trumpers

[Torrent50]

Aren’t we losing 2 more of the remaining 4 commissioners at years end?  2023 will be a 7-2 vote in favor of antihunting…. Inslee has had the power to squash hunting as we have known it.  What seasons will be around in 2024?


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I believe they can stay on for more than their two year period.  Not exactly sure how that works, but some have been there for more than two years.  I would imagine that if they said they wanted to continue for another two year term it would be unlikely that they would be replaced.  That would make it too obvious.  They can keep things just like they are and have the majority and still keep the illusion that the commission is balanced.

[emac]

Aren’t we losing 2 more of the remaining 4 commissioners at years end?  2023 will be a 7-2 vote in favor of antihunting…. Inslee has had the power to squash hunting as we have known it.  What seasons will be around in 2024?


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I believe they can stay on for more than their two year period.  Not exactly sure how that works, but some have been there for more than two years.  I would imagine that if they said they wanted to continue for another two year term it would be unlikely that they would be replaced.  That would make it too obvious.  They can keep things just like they are and have the majority and still keep the illusion that the commission is balanced.

I thought it was a 6 year term.

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[Bullkllr]

Thornburn, McIssac, Anderson and Linville all get it.  They sounded frustrated that new commissioners would come on board and change the direction of the commission without getting themselves informed on the issues.

And, as stated in the other thread, the very first thing we should all do is thank them for their work, efforts, support of science, and general sanity! If any of them bail we're in a world of hurt.

Donald.Mcisaac@dfw.wa.gov
Kim.Thorburn@dfw.wa.gov
Molly.Linville@dfw.wa.gov
James.Anderson@dfw.wa.gov

I emailed all the commissioners today.  Thanking these 4 and expressing my concerns with the other 5.  I got a response from Commissioner Baker already and have a meeting set up with her in a couple of weeks.  It will be a good time to express my concerns and hear her point of view first hand in a less official setting.  Hoping it goes well.

Thanks for doing that. It will be interesting indeed to see how that goes.

[Bullkllr]

Aren’t we losing 2 more of the remaining 4 commissioners at years end?  2023 will be a 7-2 vote in favor of antihunting…. Inslee has had the power to squash hunting as we have known it.  What seasons will be around in 2024?


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It doesn't exactly endear him to me or anything, but we need to keep in mind Inslee appointed Commissioners Anderson, McIsaac, Thorburn, and Linville as well as the other 5. Lehmkuhl I believe may prove to be a reasonable and moderate commissioner. He was very close to a "yes" on the spring bear vote. So there may be hope.
 
I know Washington Wildlife First has been pushing very hard for their candidates- and other groups likely as well. I'll give them credit- they are organized, motivated, and know how to work the political system in their favor. There is absolutely no reason hunters and fishers can't do the same. We simply need to get more people involved and engaged toward common goals. Hunters may be only ~3%, but the number of truly "antis" is small as well. Most of the public who doesn't hunt support hunting for food. And fisherpeople outnumber hunters hugely. There's a lot of power behind all those voices singing a common tune. If we sit back and watch it happen, or wait for others to do it for us, I think the writing is on the wall to support those fears.

[Torrent50]

Aren’t we losing 2 more of the remaining 4 commissioners at years end?  2023 will be a 7-2 vote in favor of antihunting…. Inslee has had the power to squash hunting as we have known it.  What seasons will be around in 2024?


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I believe they can stay on for more than their two year period.  Not exactly sure how that works, but some have been there for more than two years.  I would imagine that if they said they wanted to continue for another two year term it would be unlikely that they would be replaced.  That would make it too obvious.  They can keep things just like they are and have the majority and still keep the illusion that the commission is balanced.

I thought it was a 6 year term.

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You are correct.  Don't know what I was thinking.  Just not sure if there are term limits or not.

[HooknoseHunter]

I’m completely floored by some of the commentary on this thread. You have people confessing to the ultimate sin of voting FOR Jay Inslee and then you have other people AGREEING with that same person!!!!! What in the heck is going on out west there boys???

[Ghost Hunter]

I’m completely floored by some of the commentary on this thread. You have people confessing to the ultimate sin of voting FOR Jay Inslee and then you have other people AGREEING with that same person!!!!! What in the heck is going on out west there boys???

It's the world we live in.