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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2022, 01:41:36 PM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

Hang in there man👍

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
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I haven't been hauling my motorcycle and trail riding or using my boat much. Fuel is impacting my life. I have been making other life choices to spend less money. My hunting is my non-negotiable activity. It is my happy place and I will make it happen and don't mind working extra to accomplish that. Sorry if my earlier comments rubbed you the wrong way.

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2022, 01:48:36 PM »
If gas prices were truly a limiting factor for my family and our ability to get away, I'd be thinking really seriously about what vehicle I drive and whether I can swap some things around to get my cost per mile down. 

I recall the last time gas prices went through the roof, strikes me it was 2008 or 2009?  And suddenly the price of gas powered trucks went way down, and people were scrambling to find diesels or other vehicles with better mileage.

The used car market has been nuts over the last year or two...anybody seeing any softening in the low mileage vehicle market?     

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2022, 02:14:29 PM »
If gas prices were truly a limiting factor for my family and our ability to get away, I'd be thinking really seriously about what vehicle I drive and whether I can swap some things around to get my cost per mile down. 

I recall the last time gas prices went through the roof, strikes me it was 2008 or 2009?  And suddenly the price of gas powered trucks went way down, and people were scrambling to find diesels or other vehicles with better mileage.

The used car market has been nuts over the last year or two...anybody seeing any softening in the low mileage vehicle market?   
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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2022, 02:28:36 PM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2022, 02:42:55 PM »
I hope every paddle puking liberal is feeling the pain.  Fuel cost effect everyone and unfortunately, it is the only thing we can all agree on regardless of political affiliation.  In my opinion.....it is the one thing that can help change the direction of moderates that side with the "D's"....Only time will tell as midterms are right around the corner. 


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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2022, 02:47:23 PM »
I have no current plans to make any changes.
Still going hunting.
Just go to the spring bear comments online.
And read a few anti-hunters comment,that will get ya fired up to go hunting ,whatever the cost.
I'll work OT ,whatever after reading there anti-hunters BS ,it pisses me off just enough that I don't give two about the cost.Ill work myself into a grave just to say I'm going hunting.
Screw those anti-hunters.
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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2022, 03:31:17 PM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

Yes, I get that, I wasn't trying to be an ass, and I truly feel for the people having to make these difficult decisions, just thought it was an odd question to ask people when they can't afford gas to hunt.

I understand, it is an odd question to ask. A better one could be "what are you doing to offset high fuel costs to ensure you still have a hunt?" or something like that.

It's just frustrating hearing some guys go off about how they already waste money other places so gas won't be an issue and that people are "pouting" about gas. I don't waste any money and I'm not pouting - the middle class (the actual middle class) is getting crushed. I envy ya'll who have the means to do everything you normally would this year but for my family we'll already have to cut out a lot of planned camps, a trip to the coast and thanksgiving with my brother in Colorado if these fuel prices stick around.

Sorry man, that sucks, I feel for you, glad I am not in that situation, blessed it isn't an issue for me, but I do feel bad for those having to make those decisions, a real bummer!

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2022, 03:44:42 PM »
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:

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For U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice.  One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing ó giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.

They have everything they need.  Nothing is standing in their way.  And theyíve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall.  Thatís progress.

But some companies have been pretty blunt.  They donít want to increase supply because Putinís price hike means higher profits.

One CEO even acknowledged that they donít care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel.  Theyíre not going to step up the production.

I say: Enough.  Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.

U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year.  And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.

This is a time ó not the time to sit on record profits.

Itís time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.

Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands.  There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to ó to pump on.

Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they havenít used in years and acres of public land theyíre hoarding without production.

Companies that are already producing from these wells wonít be affected.  But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
 

Nice speech for optics but he has had ZERO discussion with us oil executives about working WITH them. This is more about redirecting blame from his administration to the oil companies.  I have 9000 different hunting leases available for you Stein. Problem is there are few to almost no deer or elk. Are you going to snap these leases up? Cmon man get to hunting I have all these leases available 😂. Biden scared away most of the capital available for fossil fuel development when he killed the pipeline and halted any new leases on public land. If he gives a crap he needs to talk directly to industry executives and provide assurance that they will work with them for the long term. Good first step would be fast tracking the approval of new leases and development.  Making a speech calling oil companies greedy for not drilling more is hardly the answer. I guess at least he pissed off a few enviros but he did nothing to encourage domestic production with the ďblame greedy oil companies ď speech. Itís going to take decades to transition to renewables. Should we be like Germany and become completely dependent on a foreign dictator like Putin or just be the largest producer in the world? Bidens plan so far is beg foreign dictators for oil abroad and blame greedy oil companies (owned by the American people) at home for high oil prices. That doesnít inspire confidence for oil companies to invest in new production.

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2022, 09:04:21 AM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

Hang in there👍

Thanks boss I appreciate it. Thankfully I've got a couple pieces of public not too far away I can stick to this season - hopefully the animals will too.

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2022, 09:38:31 AM »
For me, the price would have to decrease my family's quality of life and strain our long term financial budget.  Just had my first child a month ago so that will be a lot more limiting than gas prices.  Didnt purchase an Idaho tag this year, but will have two Idaho deer tags in the family so if things are going well will still make the drive down south.  Luckily live within 50-100 miles of some of the best, deer/elk/bear/bird hunting in the state.  Gas for strictly hunting runs about 250-500 bucks a year, if that triples to $1500 bucks lots of opportunity and time to come up with the extra.
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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #85 on: June 10, 2022, 10:45:17 AM »
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:

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For U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice.  One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing ó giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.

They have everything they need.  Nothing is standing in their way.  And theyíve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall.  Thatís progress.

But some companies have been pretty blunt.  They donít want to increase supply because Putinís price hike means higher profits.

One CEO even acknowledged that they donít care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel.  Theyíre not going to step up the production.

I say: Enough.  Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.

U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year.  And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.

This is a time ó not the time to sit on record profits.

Itís time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.

Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands.  There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to ó to pump on.

Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they havenít used in years and acres of public land theyíre hoarding without production.

Companies that are already producing from these wells wonít be affected.  But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
 

Nice speech for optics but he has had ZERO discussion with us oil executives about working WITH them. This is more about redirecting blame from his administration to the oil companies.  I have 9000 different hunting leases available for you Stein. Problem is there are few to almost no deer or elk. Are you going to snap these leases up? Cmon man get to hunting I have all these leases available 😂. Biden scared away most of the capital available for fossil fuel development when he killed the pipeline and halted any new leases on public land. If he gives a crap he needs to talk directly to industry executives and provide assurance that they will work with them for the long term. Good first step would be fast tracking the approval of new leases and development.  Making a speech calling oil companies greedy for not drilling more is hardly the answer. I guess at least he pissed off a few enviros but he did nothing to encourage domestic production with the ďblame greedy oil companies ď speech. Itís going to take decades to transition to renewables. Should we be like Germany and become completely dependent on a foreign dictator like Putin or just be the largest producer in the world? Bidens plan so far is beg foreign dictators for oil abroad and blame greedy oil companies (owned by the American people) at home for high oil prices. That doesnít inspire confidence for oil companies to invest in new production.

It's pretty obvious, oil companies are buying up leases (Biden sold more than Trump in 3 out of his 4 years).  If you are arguing they are buying junk leases I don't buy that.  They are buying and intentionally not drilling.  They have the lease, have permission to drill but aren't - zero regulation or hurdles in their way.

Buy the lease, put it on the shelf for a rainy day or if oil gets to $200 and meanwhile cash your $150M bonus check.  Whatever you do, don't drill because that will drive the price and profits down.

He's trying to play both sides of the same coin, to the left he's saying he is limiting new leases.  To the right, he's telling them to drill existing leases which there are tons and tons, most in history.  It's a theory on paper that has 0% effectiveness other than managing to tick off just about everyone.

Talking about a pipeline that has never pushed an ounce of oil and never will or a dinky lease up in ANWR that nobody expected will every happen seems to be an old story not very relevant.  Both of those have never been in production and oil was $20 when they were off the table.  It's something shiny to drum up froth in the base that don't bother to dig a bit deeper.

He can brow beat oil CEOs all he wants, they simply leave his office and head on over with a wheelbarrow of cash to K street and make sure nothing changes.

Buy oil stocks.

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2022, 02:42:11 PM »
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:

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For U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice.  One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing ó giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.

They have everything they need.  Nothing is standing in their way.  And theyíve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall.  Thatís progress.

But some companies have been pretty blunt.  They donít want to increase supply because Putinís price hike means higher profits.

One CEO even acknowledged that they donít care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel.  Theyíre not going to step up the production.

I say: Enough.  Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.

U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year.  And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.

This is a time ó not the time to sit on record profits.

Itís time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.

Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands.  There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to ó to pump on.

Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they havenít used in years and acres of public land theyíre hoarding without production.

Companies that are already producing from these wells wonít be affected.  But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.
 

Nice speech for optics but he has had ZERO discussion with us oil executives about working WITH them. This is more about redirecting blame from his administration to the oil companies.  I have 9000 different hunting leases available for you Stein. Problem is there are few to almost no deer or elk. Are you going to snap these leases up? Cmon man get to hunting I have all these leases available 😂. Biden scared away most of the capital available for fossil fuel development when he killed the pipeline and halted any new leases on public land. If he gives a crap he needs to talk directly to industry executives and provide assurance that they will work with them for the long term. Good first step would be fast tracking the approval of new leases and development.  Making a speech calling oil companies greedy for not drilling more is hardly the answer. I guess at least he pissed off a few enviros but he did nothing to encourage domestic production with the ďblame greedy oil companies ď speech. Itís going to take decades to transition to renewables. Should we be like Germany and become completely dependent on a foreign dictator like Putin or just be the largest producer in the world? Bidens plan so far is beg foreign dictators for oil abroad and blame greedy oil companies (owned by the American people) at home for high oil prices. That doesnít inspire confidence for oil companies to invest in new production.

It's pretty obvious, oil companies are buying up leases (Biden sold more than Trump in 3 out of his 4 years).  If you are arguing they are buying junk leases I don't buy that.  They are buying and intentionally not drilling.  They have the lease, have permission to drill but aren't - zero regulation or hurdles in their way.

Buy the lease, put it on the shelf for a rainy day or if oil gets to $200 and meanwhile cash your $150M bonus check.  Whatever you do, don't drill because that will drive the price and profits down.

He's trying to play both sides of the same coin, to the left he's saying he is limiting new leases.  To the right, he's telling them to drill existing leases which there are tons and tons, most in history.  It's a theory on paper that has 0% effectiveness other than managing to tick off just about everyone.

Talking about a pipeline that has never pushed an ounce of oil and never will or a dinky lease up in ANWR that nobody expected will every happen seems to be an old story not very relevant.  Both of those have never been in production and oil was $20 when they were off the table.  It's something shiny to drum up froth in the base that don't bother to dig a bit deeper.

He can brow beat oil CEOs all he wants, they simply leave his office and head on over with a wheelbarrow of cash to K street and make sure nothing changes.

Buy oil stocks.
   

I bought oil stocks the day Biden got elected. I knew exactly what he would do but I wish I would have been wrong. I think you have bought into Bidens narrative but I donít think you really read my points. Companies will apply for and buy dozens of permits at one time. That doesnít mean they all produce oil. If there first well is a dry hole they are unlikely to drill much more just because they have the lease. Thatís why I used the hunting lease analogy.  They are still subject to environmental studies and lawsuits from neighbors etc. even if they own the lease. Hence my suggestion he temporarily allow them to fast track the process. 

 People love to parrot that the keystone pipeline wasnít complete so delivered no oil. I think it could have been done by now since 18 months have passed. It would have delivered the dirtier oil our refineryís require. Thatís not the point. By shutting down the pipeline he scared the industry and private money from investing in dirty energy development. Imagine If you invested billions in 1/2 of a pipeline they shut down mid stream. Would you be excited to pump billions more into a project? Thatís the problem!! Biden expects a speech blaming high oil prices on the oil companies will convince them to produce more? He could send the price down tomorrow if he seriously tried to convince the oil companies he wanted to work WITH them and reverse course on what heís done to put them out of business. In the interest of national and world security how hard is it to reverse his executive order on the keystone pipeline?

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2022, 03:18:15 PM »

Biden expects a speech blaming high oil prices on the oil companies will convince them to produce more? He could send the price down tomorrow if he seriously tried to convince the oil companies he wanted to work WITH them and reverse course on what heís done to put them out of business.


Biden swore to put the oil companies out of business on the first day of his presidency.  And now he's blaming them for trying to maximize their profits?

He can issue all of the leases he wants, and then whine that the oil companies are not using them.  It ain't gonna work.

Way to go, Brandon.

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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2022, 05:14:56 PM »
Ok, here's a question. I read somewhere that Keystone XL is no longer an option because it's been diverted to British Columbia so the oil can be sold to China. When biden shut it down, did he know plan "B" was to sell the oil to China? If so it's a nice payback for all the grift that Hunter accumulated from his chinese buddies.
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Re: Whatís your fuel price limit?
« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2022, 09:39:55 AM »
I don't think the fuel prices have limited an of our driving as we have trips and travel already planned out.  Just noticing it on the back end on the amount of money going out and not into savings.  I filled up my diesel truck last night and it was $6.28 a gallon.  Folks will definately see a lot more cash going out for everything.  I would look at other vehicle options, but good luck trying to find one and if you do the markup is mind boggling.  Take a $10k - $25k over MSRP bath on a new one or keep plugging away with what I have.   :dunno:
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