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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2022, 08:39:09 PM »
I'm just not sure the netting operation is accomplishing what they want. I think walleyes are like coyotes, don't seem to be able to get rid of them so just work around them. They plant 750000 triploids a year in roosevelt,, seems to me thay have to plant more than 4000 Chinook to get them established. When I questioned the netters at the launch they were a little evasive but didn't seem overly optimistic about how much good they were doing.  It'd be nice to have big Chinook in the lake, but the walleye fishing is extremely popular  and there are fewer opportunities to fish for them in the state than there are for salmon

Exactly, also I've always wondered why the triploids don't grow bigger in roosevelt? Ive never really seen a Rufus woods type 10+ pound football come out of roosevelt. Am I wrong?

The commercial net pens on rufus keep it stocked with the big ones.  A Triploid does not equate to a big fish....
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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2022, 09:02:21 PM »
I'm just not sure the netting operation is accomplishing what they want. I think walleyes are like coyotes, don't seem to be able to get rid of them so just work around them. They plant 750000 triploids a year in roosevelt,, seems to me thay have to plant more than 4000 Chinook to get them established. When I questioned the netters at the launch they were a little evasive but didn't seem overly optimistic about how much good they were doing.  It'd be nice to have big Chinook in the lake, but the walleye fishing is extremely popular  and there are fewer opportunities to fish for them in the state than there are for salmon

Exactly, also I've always wondered why the triploids don't grow bigger in roosevelt? Ive never really seen a Rufus woods type 10+ pound football come out of roosevelt. Am I wrong?
I raise trips on Roosevelt, there are 10 pound  fish being caught

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2022, 09:43:03 PM »
Interesting topic, I too wonder what the grand plan is with this. Seems asanine they would target spiny rays like that knowing how many are in the reservoir compared to that small amount of Salmon planted. I also think the whole redband thing is way over played. Sure there are native fish in Roosevelt but nothing like the true native redbands from the spokane River that Ive seen.They have solid blood red stripes. I've caught nothing that looks like a real Redband downriver of 9 mile dam. Also, are they expecting these smolt or adults they planted to take hold? If so, explain to me how that will all work? Obviously the smolt could never make it past chief Jo on their journey back from the ocean, defeating any sort of instinctual return.. Are they shooting for some sort of weird landlocked (for lack of a better word) roosevelt nook population? Seems like these boys are fighting a tough battle here


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How did they establish the Chinook salmon that now populate the great lakes?  No salt water connection with them is there?

The Great Lakes are connected to the ocean by the Saint Laurence Sea Way.

 But the salmon they planted do not go to sea. They do reproduce up in the tributaries. But not at a self sustainable level.
They stock the crap out of the lakes.
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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2022, 10:06:29 PM »
Coeur D' Alene Lake has (had?) a self-sustaining population of Chinook.  The IDFG ended up going up into the Coeur D' Alene river and destroying redds to limit their population to restore the kokanee population at one point 10-15 years ago.  May still be doing it, I don't know.
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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2022, 04:00:07 AM »
Interesting topic, I too wonder what the grand plan is with this. Seems asanine they would target spiny rays like that knowing how many are in the reservoir compared to that small amount of Salmon planted. I also think the whole redband thing is way over played. Sure there are native fish in Roosevelt but nothing like the true native redbands from the spokane River that Ive seen.They have solid blood red stripes. I've caught nothing that looks like a real Redband downriver of 9 mile dam. Also, are they expecting these smolt or adults they planted to take hold? If so, explain to me how that will all work? Obviously the smolt could never make it past chief Jo on their journey back from the ocean, defeating any sort of instinctual return.. Are they shooting for some sort of weird landlocked (for lack of a better word) roosevelt nook population? Seems like these boys are fighting a tough battle here


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Is this a redband? I used to catch at least one in every limit of trout...Now that the ban is in place I have not caught one...and that's been a few years.
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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2022, 06:33:21 AM »
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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2022, 08:35:10 AM »
Interesting topic, I too wonder what the grand plan is with this. Seems asanine they would target spiny rays like that knowing how many are in the reservoir compared to that small amount of Salmon planted. I also think the whole redband thing is way over played. Sure there are native fish in Roosevelt but nothing like the true native redbands from the spokane River that Ive seen.They have solid blood red stripes. I've caught nothing that looks like a real Redband downriver of 9 mile dam. Also, are they expecting these smolt or adults they planted to take hold? If so, explain to me how that will all work? Obviously the smolt could never make it past chief Jo on their journey back from the ocean, defeating any sort of instinctual return.. Are they shooting for some sort of weird landlocked (for lack of a better word) roosevelt nook population? Seems like these boys are fighting a tough battle here


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Is this a redband? I used to catch at least one in every limit of trout...Now that the ban is in place I have not caught one...and that's been a few years.
That does look like one. Maybe every wild fish is some mutation of a redband. Who knows. Beautiful fish
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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2022, 08:52:50 AM »
WDFW has been catching more Walleye out of Lake Washington every year. I wonder how long it will be before they decide to do something in that one? Maybe already are?

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2022, 12:49:14 PM »
What is the point without fish passage at the dam?

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2022, 01:29:11 PM »
What is the point without fish passage at the dam?
They are trying to do what was done in the great lakes. I.e. establish Roosevelt as home base for the salmon, hence no need to establish some way around the dams.  As mentioned earlier this would probably require a huge hatchery program dedicated to Lake Roosevelt .  Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've also heard talk of trucking them around the dams  and just reestablishing the Roosevelt tributaries as final spawning grounds.

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2022, 01:37:25 PM »
WDFW has been catching more Walleye out of Lake Washington every year. I wonder how long it will be before they decide to do something in that one? Maybe already are?

I can't imagine what they could possibly do.

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2022, 02:46:59 PM »
What is the point without fish passage at the dam?
They are trying to do what was done in the great lakes. I.e. establish Roosevelt as home base for the salmon, hence no need to establish some way around the dams.  As mentioned earlier this would probably require a huge hatchery program dedicated to Lake Roosevelt .  Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've also heard talk of trucking them around the dams  and just reestablishing the Roosevelt tributaries as final spawning grounds.

Down stream passage is a problem that would have to be addressed.

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2022, 03:37:45 PM »
This was caught just above Keller about 6 or 7 years ago.  Lots of people have told me it's a Red Band... but it has a misclipped adipose, so it is a hatchery fish and can't be a wild Red Band.   :dunno:

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2022, 03:55:45 PM »
This was caught just above Keller about 6 or 7 years ago.  Lots of people have told me it's a Red Band... but it has a misclipped adipose, so it is a hatchery fish and can't be a wild Red Band.   :dunno:

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I was told the best way to spot the difference is not the lateral red line but the cheek color. This is a red band out of the Spokane river vs a Rainbow from the same neck of river.

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Re: Good Bye Walleye 400 Nets to be deployed in Lake Roosevelt
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2022, 05:46:06 AM »
What is and what isn't a redband in Roosevelt may always be a mystery. This is a limit I caught this past winter. Top one looks out of place but the adipose is fully clipped.

 


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