HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House

[Wolfdog2314]

https://tvw.org/video/senate-law-justice-2023031426/?eventID=2023031426

Live, now. Haven’t gotten to 1240 yet.

[Ghost Hunter]

Asking for a friend.  What if firearm is paid for, in FFL hands, during 10 day waiting period bill is signed?

[seakev]

As it stands now, the transaction will be terminated.

[hunter399]

Myself and a handful of others ,in the past ten year.
Have tried to promote,purpose rule change to the commission,to allow 223 centerfire for deer in Washington State.
Essentially to turn our ar15 into a "sporting rifle" for hunting purposes.
These attempts did not gain alot of support by hunters.
Even though alot of Washington hunters hunt others states in which it is allowed.
The bottom line is ........
A blind man could of seen this coming.
You reap what you sow .
I told ya so.

[jrebel]

Myself and a handful of others ,in the past ten year.
Have tried to promote,purpose rule change to the commission,to allow 223 centerfire for deer in Washington State.
Essentially to turn our ar15 into a "sporting rifle" for hunting purposes.
These attempts did not gain alot of support by hunters.
Even though alot of Washington hunters hunt others states in which it is allowed.
The bottom line is ........
A blind man could of seen this coming.
You reap what you sow .
I told ya so.

What does this have to do with anything?    .223 legal for deer doesn’t mean semi auto .223/5.56 wouldn’t be on the chopping block.  Just like .308 /ar10’s will be outlawed.  The state would just say buy a .223 bolt action.

“You reap what you sow” would insinuate people that think .223 is too small for big game hunting caused an “assault weapon ban”.   Stop dividing gun owners and hunters by this propaganda.  Put blame on the left wing nuts that ultimately want to take all guns. 

[hunter399]

Myself and a handful of others ,in the past ten year.
Have tried to promote,purpose rule change to the commission,to allow 223 centerfire for deer in Washington State.
Essentially to turn our ar15 into a "sporting rifle" for hunting purposes.
These attempts did not gain alot of support by hunters.
Even though alot of Washington hunters hunt others states in which it is allowed.
The bottom line is ........
A blind man could of seen this coming.
You reap what you sow .
I told ya so.

What does this have to do with anything?    .223 legal for deer doesn’t mean semi auto .223/5.56 wouldn’t be on the chopping block.  Just like .308 /ar10’s will be outlawed.  The state would just say buy a .223 bolt action.

“You reap what you sow” would insinuate people that think .223 is too small for big game hunting caused an “assault weapon ban”.   Stop dividing gun owners and hunters by this propaganda.  Put blame on the left wing nuts that ultimately want to take all guns.

Are you gonna say the same.
When they ban all guns.
I'm not dividing gun owners,the fact that some gun owner won't accept an AR style rifle as a sporting rifle isn't my fault .
I still stand by my statement,seeing comieforna 5 years ago could tell ya what was gonna happen here.
Would 223 for big game stop an assault weapons ban. Probably not. But will never know cause of some gun owners not being pro active in turning AR in to a sport/hunting rifle status.

Just a bit more there.
Not seeing any bans in Idaho ,kinda strange.
Oh ya that's right it's legal to hunt with a 223 there.
FYI ....
Lead ammo will be pulled from the shelf in the next year or two and will have to do back ground checks on ammo too.
Just to get a box of copper ammo ,if it's even available.
Tell me it's not coming.

[jrebel]

Myself and a handful of others ,in the past ten year.
Have tried to promote,purpose rule change to the commission,to allow 223 centerfire for deer in Washington State.
Essentially to turn our ar15 into a "sporting rifle" for hunting purposes.
These attempts did not gain alot of support by hunters.
Even though alot of Washington hunters hunt others states in which it is allowed.
The bottom line is ........
A blind man could of seen this coming.
You reap what you sow .
I told ya so.

What does this have to do with anything?    .223 legal for deer doesn’t mean semi auto .223/5.56 wouldn’t be on the chopping block.  Just like .308 /ar10’s will be outlawed.  The state would just say buy a .223 bolt action.

“You reap what you sow” would insinuate people that think .223 is too small for big game hunting caused an “assault weapon ban”.   Stop dividing gun owners and hunters by this propaganda.  Put blame on the left wing nuts that ultimately want to take all guns.

Are you gonna say the same.
When they ban all guns.
I'm not dividing gun owners,the fact that some gun owner won't accept an AR style rifle as a sporting rifle isn't my fault .
I still stand by my statement,seeing comieforna 5 years ago could tell ya what was gonna happen here.
Would 223 for big game stop an assault weapons ban. Probably not. But will never know cause of some gun owners not being pro active in turning AR in to a sport/hunting rifle status.

Just a bit more there.
Not seeing any bans in Idaho ,kinda strange.
Oh ya that's right it's legal to hunt with a 223 there.
FYI ....
Lead ammo will be pulled from the shelf in the next year or two and will have to do back ground checks on ammo too.
Just to get a box of copper ammo ,if it's even available.
Tell me it's not coming.

Again....I don't know what your talking about.  An AR is a "modern sporting rifle" and has always been looked upon as such by the majority of the gun community.  The liberals have termed them assault rifles base on pure ignorance of what AR in AR15 actually stands for.  Again, your correlation to people not wanting to allow .223 / 5.56 for big game hunting....and....and assault weapons (liberal term) ban is apples to oranges and far fetched at best.  You even state, it would have likely not made a difference...which you are 100% correct.  You then continue to say we will never know because "some gun owners not being proactive in turning AR into a sport / hunting rifle status."  This has nothing to do with gun owners and what they "want" to classify their rifles as....an AR is a modern sporting rifle that is a semiautomatic rifle.  Some people do hunt with them in the .308 win, .300blk, 6.5 grendal...and the list goes on....and that didn't change anything. 

Comparing Idaho to Washington is apples to oranges.  Republican led state vs. Democrat led state.....has nothing to do with what caliber is legal to shoot a deer with.      As for your lead vs. monolithic ammo statement....yeah, it might be coming  .  Again because we live in a liberal state....not because .223 / 5.56 isn't legal to shoot deer with. 

I'm not trying to be argumentative here.....I'm just stating fact.  Fact is, AR's are being banned because the liberal government of WA (and liberal residents) are uneducated and ignorant to what an AR actually is.  Making the caliber .223 legal to hunt with does not change that fact.....I don't care what reality you live in....it just doesn't.  Matter of fact, it was and still is a legal firearm to hunt with in this state (even after HB1240 is passed).  People shoot coyotes, cougars, rock chucks, etc. 

I'm just as mad about HB1240 as anyone else that is a firearm owner in WA.....but Spewing misinformation only makes us look worse as a group.  It actually puts us on the same playing field as our uninformed liberal Governor and AG. 

 

[HillHound]

As it stands now, the transaction will be terminated.

Probably in the millions that credit card companies are going to be processing for returns if this passes and they say it’s effective immediately. Wonder if Jay will notice how much tax money was headed towards their coffers from all the mad dash buyers grabbing ars, uppers, lowers, etc. in the last couple weeks that won’t be if it’s immediate. If they were smart, which they aren’t, they would at least let the ones go through that have been paid for and are just waiting. And yes I do have a horse in the race, next Tuesday my last purchase gets out of jail and I sure hope I’m getting it and not a refund 

[ipkus]

If Jay Inslee had a shred of decency inside his tiny little brain, he would say "I'm signing this into law 10 days from now" the same day it passes the Senate so that everyone that had bought something that was currently in jail had a chance to take possession.

But he doesn't.

[pickardjw]

As it stands now, the transaction will be terminated.

Probably in the millions that credit card companies are going to be processing for returns if this passes and they say it’s effective immediately. Wonder if Jay will notice how much tax money was headed towards their coffers from all the mad dash buyers grabbing ars, uppers, lowers, etc. in the last couple weeks that won’t be if it’s immediate. If they were smart, which they aren’t, they would at least let the ones go through that have been paid for and are just waiting. And yes I do have a horse in the race, next Tuesday my last purchase gets out of jail and I sure hope I’m getting it and not a refund

West Coast Armory sent out a letter informing people that they wouldn't refund purchases that were in process if 1240 passes. You'll have to pay to sell/ship it out of state. Not sure what other FFL's policies look like.

[Lucky1]

As it stands now, the transaction will be terminated.

Probably in the millions that credit card companies are going to be processing for returns if this passes and they say it’s effective immediately. Wonder if Jay will notice how much tax money was headed towards their coffers from all the mad dash buyers grabbing ars, uppers, lowers, etc. in the last couple weeks that won’t be if it’s immediate. If they were smart, which they aren’t, they would at least let the ones go through that have been paid for and are just waiting. And yes I do have a horse in the race, next Tuesday my last purchase gets out of jail and I sure hope I’m getting it and not a refund

I am pretty sure you are going to be alright. I am not sure when the Law and Justice committee will vote on HB1240. If they approve it, it still has to go through at least one more committee (budget?) before it would go to the senate floor for a vote. I don’t think that will happen before next Tuesday..

[jrebel]

Make sure to check with your FFL, at least one of the local FFL's is not accepting transfers at this point because they don't want to get stuck with a firearm that cannot be sold sitting in their stock if the HB1240 passes before the background check happens. 

Likely be a minimum two week process if you were ordering the firearm online or from out of state.  Purchase, shipping, receive at FFL, paperwork, 10 day wait period.  14 days would be quick for this entire process to take place. 

[pickardjw]

I am pretty sure you are going to be alright. I am not sure when the Law and Justice committee will vote on HB1240. If they approve it, it still has to go through at least one more committee (budget?) before it would go to the senate floor for a vote. I don’t think that will happen before next Tuesday..

Apparently the fiscal note attached to the bill transfers the cost of the bill to local jurisdictions, so it does NOT have to go through Ways and Means (budget) Committee. It's scheduled for executive session in the Law and Justice Committee on 3/28, so if it's voted forward there it will only need to go to Rules Committee before a floor vote.

Source: a bunch of other people on another forum that are smarter than me

[Ghost Hunter]

Purchase, shipping, receive at FFL, paperwork, 10 day wait period.  14 days would be quick for this entire process to take place. 

Betting on the horse Tuesday.  I'm at the 10 day step, and bank CC has been paid.  Ordered online from manufacturer, shipped to their FFL.  Got to see it Monday but not touch.  Have rounds, magazines, dies, scope mounts. 

[Special T]

Asking for a friend.  What if firearm is paid for, in FFL hands, during 10 day waiting period bill is signed?

Buy a lower, walk out with it, then go buy an upper