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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #555 on: May 04, 2023, 05:57:34 PM »
I don’t think I can stomach reading the whole “law”.
Can anyone tell me if it outright bans home made firearms?

Different law that required the serialization of home made weapons and having them "Registered" via FFL. That window has also closed I believe so any home made gun is illegal. 1st offence is some kind of misdemeanor and multiples are felonies I believe. Washington Gun Law on You Tube has a video on it
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #556 on: May 04, 2023, 06:13:33 PM »
I believe SCOTUS tossed that requirement to have serial numbers

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #557 on: May 04, 2023, 06:54:57 PM »
I believe SCOTUS tossed that requirement to have serial numbers

I would love to see the documentation on that KF. I had not hear that.
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #560 on: May 04, 2023, 07:28:35 PM »
I believe SCOTUS tossed that requirement to have serial numbers

I would love to see the documentation on that KF. I had not hear that.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/ban-guns-with-serial-numbers-removed-is-unconstitutional-us-judge-2022-10-13/#:~:text=The%20federal%20law%20in%20question,been%20transported%20across%20state%20lines.
Wow interesting

The state can ban the sale of 80% lowers but if you have one and turn it into a usable lower they can't do anything about it. A private citizen is not subject to the serial law unless they try and sell them.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #561 on: May 04, 2023, 07:35:47 PM »
I believe SCOTUS tossed that requirement to have serial numbers

I would love to see the documentation on that KF. I had not hear that.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/ban-guns-with-serial-numbers-removed-is-unconstitutional-us-judge-2022-10-13/#:~:text=The%20federal%20law%20in%20question,been%20transported%20across%20state%20lines.
Wow interesting

The state can ban the sale of 80% lowers but if you have one and turn it into a usable lower they can't do anything about it. A private citizen is not subject to the serial law unless they try and sell them.

So this becomes a burden of proof issue?
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #562 on: May 04, 2023, 08:18:34 PM »
That linked article that KF provided and the question about homemade firearms are not related.


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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #563 on: May 04, 2023, 08:32:26 PM »
I believe SCOTUS tossed that requirement to have serial numbers

I would love to see the documentation on that KF. I had not hear that.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/ban-guns-with-serial-numbers-removed-is-unconstitutional-us-judge-2022-10-13/#:~:text=The%20federal%20law%20in%20question,been%20transported%20across%20state%20lines.
Wow interesting

The state can ban the sale of 80% lowers but if you have one and turn it into a usable lower they can't do anything about it. A private citizen is not subject to the serial law unless they try and sell them.

So this becomes a burden of proof issue?

It’s just an unsellable weapon because everything must go thru ffl.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #564 on: May 04, 2023, 08:43:01 PM »
It's convoluted law Inslee signed

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #565 on: May 04, 2023, 09:02:25 PM »
It's convoluted law Inslee signed

It's easier to create criminals out of your rivals with convoluted laws.
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #566 on: May 04, 2023, 09:42:53 PM »
That linked article that KF provided and the question about homemade firearms are not related.


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Please clarify and expand.
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #567 on: May 04, 2023, 10:03:43 PM »
Some info

Gun Control Legislation and Homemade Guns
The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) requires, among other things, that persons "engaged in the business" of dealing in firearms be licensed by the federal government. This law made it illegal for an unlicensed person to make a firearm for sale or distribution.

A non-licensed person may make a firearm, provided it's not for sale and the maker is not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms. (18 U.S.C. § 922 (d) (2022).) Federal law imposes none of the purchase restrictions on non-licensed possessors that it does on those who need licenses, and as a result, the homemade gun owner need not undergo a background check, and the gun doesn't have to be registered unless a state law requires registration.

state governments and local municipalities (cities, towns, and unincorporated areas) can regulate them as long as the regulations don't conflict with federal law.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #568 on: May 04, 2023, 10:14:53 PM »
That linked article that KF provided and the question about homemade firearms are not related.


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Ok. Just for you.

The article that KF posted is specific to being in possession of a firearm that had a serial number that has been removed. It does not answer any questions related to any WA state legislation that includeS firearms made by non licensees.


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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #569 on: May 04, 2023, 10:34:27 PM »
That linked article that KF provided and the question about homemade firearms are not related.


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Ok. Just for you.

The article that KF posted is specific to being in possession of a firearm that had a serial number that has been removed. It does not answer any questions related to any WA state legislation that includeS firearms made by non licensees.


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ok thank you. one of the things firearms related that is super important is the fact that certain things are legal or illegal but not "Proven in court" many of us including me have certain ideas bout the law but the legal justification and case precedence set is very different than my opinion. I actually dont want to go to jail as a test case in most situations... Certainly not in this S Show of a state!
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