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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2023, 08:43:45 PM »
I donít really think IDFG cares how much of a pain it is. They donít have to invest any more money into their system, and they still get paid.

There are so many loopholes/additional ways to get tags, and I donít think they will ever address them.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2023, 05:34:59 AM »
I donít really think IDFG cares how much of a pain it is. They donít have to invest any more money into their system, and they still get paid.

There are so many loopholes/additional ways to get tags, and I donít think they will ever address them.
They are leaving a lot of money on the table by not having a draw for all these tags. Some of the top units would easily take 3+ points to draw if they went to a point system for NR. And they are changing the system, not sure when it will be rolled out... but I was told they're working on a new NR system.
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2023, 05:48:17 AM »
Youíre probably right that they would make even more of it went to a draw, but I think any kind of points system might turn some people off from Idaho. Who knows though.

Iím ready for ultimate disappointment tomorrow.  :chuckle:

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2023, 06:08:00 AM »
Points systems leave alot of money on the table, but they are a ponzi scheme and no hunter should be in favor of preference systems. They can only work correctly  if the demand remains stable. Not only are they seldom stable, they are never better, and they are never in favor of NR.


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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2023, 06:30:53 AM »
 :yeah:

Thatís exactly why there is a demand for Idaho, if they went points system the demand will drop. Points are terrible, Washington draw system is terrible.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2023, 06:47:08 AM »
the general should be a draw with no points. Let groups put in together on apps so they can all or not get a tag. Not everyone can sit in line, on the phone or the internet all day during business hours to get a tag. They do the draw, whats under drawn goes to the first leftover sale in April and they keep doing what they are doing with return tag sales every month.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2023, 07:48:29 AM »
the general should be a draw with no points. Let groups put in together on apps so they can all or not get a tag. Not everyone can sit in line, on the phone or the internet all day during business hours to get a tag. They do the draw, whats under drawn goes to the first leftover sale in April and they keep doing what they are doing with return tag sales every month.

I agree. I hate this system they currently have. its a mass failure with online sales, the system is overloaded and crashes, its terrible timing for finances and the upcoming holidays. people that are at work, that dont have the ability to login, stand zero chance, 14,000+ in line finally is allowed to purchase at 6-8pm that night.  Just make it a draw, zero points, you either put it for deer and elk, or the big 3.  The issue is the money aspect. Idaho knows they will sell every tag and make the max amount of money they can, so why pay for a better system or change the system. money is money and in the end, they will sell every tag tomorrow, and it wont be their issue. They (IDFG) has to know its  failed system. However, "everyone has an equal chance" at least in their eyes.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2023, 08:16:41 AM »
Let the circus begin!  Any predictions how long it takes for system to crash and then get it back up?   

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2023, 08:38:25 AM »
I believe the sale is a joke but I wouldnít want it to go to a point system. Iíll get tags may not be my first choice but Iíll be hunting Idaho every year!
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2023, 08:50:07 AM »
My preference is still that everyone puts in to be assigned a random spot in line. After that is set, there will be a window of time for segments of people to either get online or go in person to purchase their permits. This would make it so the system is not overloaded and also so that people don't have to sit at their computers waiting for their turn.
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2023, 08:55:33 AM »
Last year all the zones I wanted were gone in first 30 minutes anyway so not much wait needed to get into the losers loungeÖÖ.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2023, 09:21:00 AM »
the general should be a draw with no points. Let groups put in together on apps so they can all or not get a tag. Not everyone can sit in line, on the phone or the internet all day during business hours to get a tag. They do the draw, whats under drawn goes to the first leftover sale in April and they keep doing what they are doing with return tag sales every month.

This exactly.  :yeah:
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2023, 10:10:47 AM »
Points systems leave alot of money on the table, but they are a ponzi scheme and no hunter should be in favor of preference systems. They can only work correctly  if the demand remains stable. Not only are they seldom stable, they are never better, and they are never in favor of NR.
How does a point system leave a lot of money on the table? I hate point systems, but do you think ID isn't looking at neighboring states like MT & WY and thinking huh..... we could charge for a NR OTC draw & we could charge for retaining points, all while not having our systems crash, and hear non stop complaining from NR about Idaho's bad system and how they cant hunt as a group anymore. 
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2023, 10:14:50 AM »
:yeah:

Thatís exactly why there is a demand for Idaho, if they went points system the demand will drop. Points are terrible, Washington draw system is terrible.
You ever apply in any other state? They all have demand through the roof, most with a point system. But yeah, I wish it would stay the way it is. WA's horrible management is a big part of the demand for ID
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2023, 01:40:14 PM »
IT's difficult to get a good tag anywhere in the PNW. Idaho is not easy, but at least it's not super difficult or complex, yet.

 


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