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Quote from: Tbar on February 21, 2024, 07:45:23 AMQuote from: Humptulips on February 21, 2024, 12:26:51 AMQuote from: Tbar on February 20, 2024, 11:06:24 PMQuote from: Humptulips on February 20, 2024, 10:10:28 PMAs bad as it is now, I think this would have made it much worse. It just about would end meaningful public input. Even now a showing by the public for or against an item makes the Commission notice. I'm not sure how that would be possible without Commission meetings and public testimony.Seems like the Director would have dictatorial powers.It was symbolic.I get that but Bills have a habit of getting recycled in the next session. I hope the Commission takes a hint from the Bill but I bet they won't.A pending threat is not bad and if we could get a director that is separated like pre merger I don't see it as being worse. I think a balanced commission is the goal but refer anyone back to the confirmation hearings. Please tell me there's a shred of concern from across the aisle. Where is McIntyre on all of this? He has a blue collar district that is being squeezed out, we all miss Blake and Tako when it comes to legislators who care. There's public critiques of Wilcox? We are very likely in a worse place than I previously thought. The antis lobbied inslee for the appointments, what do you think they’re going to do if they want a certain director that isn’t following their science? They have enough democrats to pass what ever they want, just look at a lot of the garbage we have because of it; gun control and the highest gas tax in the nation! The commission needs reformed not eliminated. Like I said originally this is bad legislation. Go look up what the antis want and it is exactly what you are advocating.
Quote from: Humptulips on February 21, 2024, 12:26:51 AMQuote from: Tbar on February 20, 2024, 11:06:24 PMQuote from: Humptulips on February 20, 2024, 10:10:28 PMAs bad as it is now, I think this would have made it much worse. It just about would end meaningful public input. Even now a showing by the public for or against an item makes the Commission notice. I'm not sure how that would be possible without Commission meetings and public testimony.Seems like the Director would have dictatorial powers.It was symbolic.I get that but Bills have a habit of getting recycled in the next session. I hope the Commission takes a hint from the Bill but I bet they won't.A pending threat is not bad and if we could get a director that is separated like pre merger I don't see it as being worse. I think a balanced commission is the goal but refer anyone back to the confirmation hearings. Please tell me there's a shred of concern from across the aisle. Where is McIntyre on all of this? He has a blue collar district that is being squeezed out, we all miss Blake and Tako when it comes to legislators who care. There's public critiques of Wilcox? We are very likely in a worse place than I previously thought.
Quote from: Tbar on February 20, 2024, 11:06:24 PMQuote from: Humptulips on February 20, 2024, 10:10:28 PMAs bad as it is now, I think this would have made it much worse. It just about would end meaningful public input. Even now a showing by the public for or against an item makes the Commission notice. I'm not sure how that would be possible without Commission meetings and public testimony.Seems like the Director would have dictatorial powers.It was symbolic.I get that but Bills have a habit of getting recycled in the next session. I hope the Commission takes a hint from the Bill but I bet they won't.
Quote from: Humptulips on February 20, 2024, 10:10:28 PMAs bad as it is now, I think this would have made it much worse. It just about would end meaningful public input. Even now a showing by the public for or against an item makes the Commission notice. I'm not sure how that would be possible without Commission meetings and public testimony.Seems like the Director would have dictatorial powers.It was symbolic.
As bad as it is now, I think this would have made it much worse. It just about would end meaningful public input. Even now a showing by the public for or against an item makes the Commission notice. I'm not sure how that would be possible without Commission meetings and public testimony.Seems like the Director would have dictatorial powers.
Quote from: hughjorgan on February 21, 2024, 08:46:27 AMQuote from: Tbar on February 21, 2024, 07:45:23 AMQuote from: Humptulips on February 21, 2024, 12:26:51 AMQuote from: Tbar on February 20, 2024, 11:06:24 PMQuote from: Humptulips on February 20, 2024, 10:10:28 PMAs bad as it is now, I think this would have made it much worse. It just about would end meaningful public input. Even now a showing by the public for or against an item makes the Commission notice. I'm not sure how that would be possible without Commission meetings and public testimony.Seems like the Director would have dictatorial powers.It was symbolic.I get that but Bills have a habit of getting recycled in the next session. I hope the Commission takes a hint from the Bill but I bet they won't.A pending threat is not bad and if we could get a director that is separated like pre merger I don't see it as being worse. I think a balanced commission is the goal but refer anyone back to the confirmation hearings. Please tell me there's a shred of concern from across the aisle. Where is McIntyre on all of this? He has a blue collar district that is being squeezed out, we all miss Blake and Tako when it comes to legislators who care. There's public critiques of Wilcox? We are very likely in a worse place than I previously thought. The antis lobbied inslee for the appointments, what do you think they’re going to do if they want a certain director that isn’t following their science? They have enough democrats to pass what ever they want, just look at a lot of the garbage we have because of it; gun control and the highest gas tax in the nation! The commission needs reformed not eliminated. Like I said originally this is bad legislation. Go look up what the antis want and it is exactly what you are advocating.Ironic comment during the butt kicking going on by the anti's at this moment. FYI they are adamantly opposed to this bill.
@hughjorgan Yes! They are in force today and very against but maybe you have the inside track on their agenda. The record completely conflicts what you're saying.
Quote from: Tbar on February 21, 2024, 09:35:30 AM@hughjorgan Yes! They are in force today and very against but maybe you have the inside track on their agenda. The record completely conflicts what you're saying.Interesting because I just listened to a podcast where the founder of Wa wildlife first talks about the commission as not being democratic and how she would like the governor to over see the director and their policy. That is exactly what this bill would do…Have a listen for yourself she talks about it at around the 57:00 minute markhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-wolf-connection/id1521180246?i=1000627227213
Testimony starts at 49 minuteshttps://tvw.org/video/house-agriculture-natural-resources-2024021327/?eventID=2024021327
Its unfortunate that so many anti's spoke in this, it just goes to show how much of a coordinated effort they have and being tied to the WDFW commission.