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Offline Karl Blanchard

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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2024, 10:24:04 AM »
If only they would have stopped in person Non Res sales and be forced to sign into your online account to eliminate multiple devices/bots for one person to be entered into the waiting room.   

People took too much advantage of the "loopholes" and others complained.
I partially agree. I don't think they should completely eliminate in person sales but you should be limited to only being able to buy for direct family ie wife and kids.

I also agree with the login requirement. I personally had 4 devices in the que and once placement was assigned,  ditched all but the lowest number. 

One thing I think a lot of people don't understand about the que is there isn't actually 50k people in line. There's 50k devices in line. It's also a rolling number as in new placement numbers just continue to add up even as numbers are eliminated from the que. For example, on the evening of Dec 1 I logged in under my wife's account to see what tags were still available and my que number was like 88k but my wait time was 30 seconds to get in. There WAS NOT 87,999 people in front of me. It's just that the que numbers never reset. Hope that made sense :chuckle:
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2024, 10:25:44 AM »
Anyone catch the "licensed" to hunt portion.

So pre purchase of license. That could be a deal breaker for allot.
it'll be ran just like the LE tags. Big Game license required and a $14 application fee per species. ID is gonna make bank next year!
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2024, 10:26:00 AM »
Kind of already been a "draw" system for the last few years.  Unless you can drive to Idaho and stand in line, when you logged onto the IDFG website they assigned you a random number.  If you "draw" 34,234... you didn't get drawn for an Idaho tag this year...   :rolleyes:

This had to happen anyway. 
My sister and her husband drove to ID to stand in line this year.  The #1 guy in their line was standing there will a stack of requests for "friends" from out of state, buying tags for them.  Took over an hour just for that one guy.  My sister was 4th in line.  By the time she got up to the counter, nothing was available anymore.  So even driving to ID doesn't work as the work-around anymore.   
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Here goes idaho
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2024, 10:28:25 AM »
Anyone catch the "licensed" to hunt portion.

So pre purchase of license. That could be a deal breaker for allot.
it'll be ran just like the LE tags. Big Game license required and a $14 application fee per species. ID is gonna make bank next year!
Wonder if there will be two draws. And how they’ll deal with big game vs trophy vs general. In theory they may have four draws w the turn back tags.


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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2024, 10:30:13 AM »
This pertains to other tags only. The LE draw won't change.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2024, 10:32:19 AM »
I wonder if this will push them to a point system, I hope not.  At least I can apply with my son in law together and know we both gets tags we want as a group. 
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2024, 10:37:10 AM »
This pertains to other tags only. The LE draw won't change.
I'm not so sure on that.  It could very easily be a case of adding the NR allocation to the regular draw. Basically forcing folks to skip controlled hunts if they want the best chance at what are currently 'otc' tags.  This model would be consistent with Idaho's history of keeping odds as best as possible by forcing hunters to choose amongst competing options.

I'm not saying this will definitely be the case, but I don't think its out of the question.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2024, 10:39:21 AM »
I wonder if this will push them to a point system, I hope not.  At least I can apply with my son in law together and know we both gets tags we want as a group.
Not a chance. 
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2024, 10:50:20 AM »
This pertains to other tags only. The LE draw won't change.
I'm not so sure on that.  It could very easily be a case of adding the NR allocation to the regular draw. Basically forcing folks to skip controlled hunts if they want the best chance at what are currently 'otc' tags.  This model would be consistent with Idaho's history of keeping odds as best as possible by forcing hunters to choose amongst competing options.

I'm not saying this will definitely be the case, but I don't think its out of the question.
  :dunno: simply addresses otc purchases. They would be fools to lump otc Quota in with the LE draw. That's a lot of app fees they'd miss out on not to mention they would get far less participation having to wait till june :twocents:
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2024, 10:59:26 AM »
This pertains to other tags only. The LE draw won't change.
I'm not so sure on that.  It could very easily be a case of adding the NR allocation to the regular draw. Basically forcing folks to skip controlled hunts if they want the best chance at what are currently 'otc' tags.  This model would be consistent with Idaho's history of keeping odds as best as possible by forcing hunters to choose amongst competing options.

I'm not saying this will definitely be the case, but I don't think its out of the question.
  :dunno: simply addresses otc purchases. They would be fools to lump otc Quota in with the LE draw. That's a lot of app fees they'd miss out on not to mention they would get far less participation having to wait till june :twocents:

So even if it passes, there would be one more year of OTC given the draw is Dec 1 and changes would be Jan 1
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2024, 11:00:50 AM »
That's how I read it but who knows. They may have it implemented by Dec 1 :dunno:
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2024, 11:14:57 AM »
Either way it doesn't surprise me and as long as it doesn't go to a points system, I am not overly upset.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2024, 11:28:16 AM »
From my conversations with those in Idaho Fish and Game, they really really don't like the point system.
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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2024, 11:29:05 AM »
I don’t have any skin in the game anymore, but I think it’s a good thing as long as it stays random and you can do group applications. Time will tell, but that old system was getting pretty bad with tag mules and super long online waiting rooms it was basically a random draw already based on your number in line. It sucked for trying to get your whole party the same tag.
If they gave you say 5 choices and considered everyone’s 1st choice before moving down the line and so on I bet there would be lots of happy customers

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Re: Here goes idaho
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2024, 11:37:04 AM »
It doesn't need to go to a draw. Only buy tags for your family in person, same last name. Allow for online groups, maybe a separate area online, than individuals. Log in to get a spot online, not 5 devices.

And if it goes to a draw, no points!
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